Samyang Teases New Lenses

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<p><strong>*Update*

</strong>We’re told the new Samyang lens will actually be a 50mm f/1.4. (<em>thanks!</em>)</p>
<p><strong>Original post

</strong>Samyang has started with the teasers for an announcement on August 26, 2014. It is expected that they will announce a  50mm f/2 lens for their VDSLR line.</p>
<p>It doesn’t look like we’ll see their first autofocus lens this time around.</p>
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[Breacher1]

50 1.2? I'd give it a shot!!!! Been happy with my Rokinon 14 for the price.

 

[TLN]

f/2 or f/1.2?
F/2 should be either superb quality or really cheap - like give an opportunity to try out MF lenses for newbies.
F/1.2 sound interesting though.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Samyang is COOL!!!!

I have the 14mm f/2.8 in EF mount, and the 12mm in E-mount. Bring 'm on 8)

 

[l_d_allan]

f/2 or f/1.2?
F/2 should be either superb quality or really cheap - like give an opportunity to try out MF lenses for newbies.
F/1.2 sound interesting though.

I've been very happy with my Samyang 14mm for Canon f.f., and 8mm fisheye (which works well on f.f. with two part lens hood full removed, even though the description makes it seem like it is for crop 1.6)

I am very much more interested to see them market relatively slow f2 and f2.8 lenses for low price, rather than faster, less sharp f1.4 lenses like the 35mm and 85mm. Those are relatively expensive, and would seem to be a bear to focus with shallow DOF. However, they would have a bright image in the viewfinder.

I think a very interesting bundle of Nikon D810 + Samyang 14mm f2.8 and Samyang 50mm f2 would be appealing, at least to me. It would be a waste of the Nikon AF system, however.

 

[preppyak]

50mm f/2 would actually be pretty boring; I'm not even sure the VDSLR community would buy it. Their cine lenses are great for a collection, but I'd rather spend the $100-200 on a 50mm f/1.4 that's Canon FD or Nikon AI.

But based on this teaser, it's either a comically overly large 50mm f/2, or it's actually f/1.2

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10616519_768446066534647_5481792888875332563_n.jpg

 

[wickidwombat]

i have the rokinon 8mm f2.8 for EF-M it is awesome

i also have the samyang 8mm f3.5 EF-S which i used before via the adapter on the M it was also good but the EF-M mount makes it so much smaller. Looking forward to see if they do any more interesting stuff in native EF-M mount

 

[AG]

Don't forget that Samyang also marks their Cinema lenses with T stops instead of F stops.
So it could be a T2 instead of an F2.

Not sure what that would convert out too.

Either way now we have to just wait until they release a 135mm and you can have a decent set of Cine lenses for fairly cheap.

 

[CarlMillerPhoto]

CR seems out of the loop on this one. I've never heard any speculation on a f/2…only a f/1.4 or f/1.2

Though I do remember a fb post by Samyang/Rokinon a month ago saying a 50mm 1.2 was still a ways out.

 

[AG]

CR seems out of the loop on this one. I've never heard any speculation on a f/2…only a f/1.4 or f/1.2

Though I do remember a fb post by them a month ago saying a 50mm 1.2 was still a ways out.

If the 28mm T.1.4 is the same lens as the 28mm F2.8 just with some funky gears on it.
Wouldn't that mean that a 50mm 1.4 would be a T1.4 or possibly around an F2-2.8, depending on size?

 

[CarlMillerPhoto]

CR seems out of the loop on this one. I've never heard any speculation on a f/2…only a f/1.4 or f/1.2

Though I do remember a fb post by them a month ago saying a 50mm 1.2 was still a ways out.

If the 28mm T.1.4 is the same lens as the 28mm F2.8 just with some funky gears on it.
Wouldn't that mean that a 50mm 1.4 would be a T1.4 or possibly around an F2-2.8, depending on size?

I think you have that backwards. A lens' T-stop will always be slower/smaller than it's F-stop, as a T-stop is basically the F-number adjusted to account for the light transmittance of the lens (which is always less than 100%). A 28mm f/1.4 could be a a T*2.8, but not the other way around. Regardless, the original post denotes f/2. If it does end up being a 50mm f/2, it's going to sell horribly lol.

I wouldn't be surprised is this turns out to be a different FL than 50mm or just another APS-C lens. After the release of the Sigma 50mm 1.4, Samyang probably knows it has to go back to the drawing board to be viable. There's already a ton of pretty darn good legacy glass (Nikon Ais 50mm f1.4 & f1.2, Takumar 50mm f1.4, Canon FD 50mm 1.4 and 1.2L, etc.) in the price range Samyang has historically existed. Their godsend, though, is that their market base is moving to mirrorless (the GH4 and A7s), and their lenses save the user from having to buy the pricey Metabones adapters.

 

[Zv]

i have the rokinon 8mm f2.8 for EF-M it is awesome

i also have the samyang 8mm f3.5 EF-S which i used before via the adapter on the M it was also good but the EF-M mount makes it so much smaller. Looking forward to see if they do any more interesting stuff in native EF-M mount

Glad to hear that it's next on my wish list!

 

[vscd]

I wouldn't miss the extra stop from f2 to f1.4 if the f2 ist sharp from corner to corner. On a full frame the f2 has a quite nice Depth of field, mostly you even stop down to f2.8 or 3.5...

For me the Samyang-lenses are always worth a buy because of the fantastic manual focussing-ring. It's something totally different if you have a real manual lense or "just" an autofocus-lens with the ability to focus manual. Even on expensive lenses like a 85 1.2L, the manual focussing sucks, the whole "by wire"-feeling is awkward. The 35mm 1.4 from samyang has the smoothness of a Zeiss Lens and outperforms them partly in optical performance.

I don't miss autofocus on short focallenghts (f.e. below ca. 60mm)

Edit: Oh, wait, there is something I really miss on the Samyang-ones... an automatic aperture.

 

[leGreve]

Edit: Oh, wait, there is something I really miss on the Samyang-ones... an automatic aperture.

That's because they are VDSLR lenses and therefore made so you can pull the aperture as well as the focus.

In my opinion it would be damn stupid of Samyang to make it an f2 lens since all their other VDSLR lenses are 1.4.
Much like Zeiss messed up the CP.2 lenses. I know it isn't T stops but still.... but consistent if you are trying to be anyways Samyang.

 

[fsgray]

i have the rokinon 8mm f2.8 for EF-M it is awesome

i also have the samyang 8mm f3.5 EF-S which i used before via the adapter on the M it was also good but the EF-M mount makes it so much smaller. Looking forward to see if they do any more interesting stuff in native EF-M mount

Based on that, I'd rather get a $99 f1.8 Nifty Fifty plus a $99 EOS-M adapter; same size, autofocus, less $$.

 

[Zv]

i have the rokinon 8mm f2.8 for EF-M it is awesome

i also have the samyang 8mm f3.5 EF-S which i used before via the adapter on the M it was also good but the EF-M mount makes it so much smaller. Looking forward to see if they do any more interesting stuff in native EF-M mount

Based on that, I'd rather get a $99 f1.8 Nifty Fifty plus a $99 EOS-M adapter; same size, autofocus, less $$.

The nifty already auto-focuses slower than a week in jail, adding an adaptor to the mix certainly wont help! Might as well have an optimized 50mm manual focus lens on the M and this Samsung offering would be just that.

 

[gsealy]

I have the Rokinon 35mm and 85mm cine lens. They are both great, especially for the money.

Lot of people have had the same experience:
http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-CV35-C-Aspherical-De-Clicked-Fixed-Non-Zoom/dp/B008X1C1DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408633702&sr=8-2&keywords=rokinon+35mm

 

[ecka]

What Samyang should really do is designing a nice MACRO LENS or two (like 100mm and 200mm). Good manual focus ring works beautifully for macro photography and there is little need for AF, if at all.

 

[moreorless]

What Samyang should really do is designing a nice MACRO LENS or two (like 100mm and 200mm). Good manual focus ring works beautifully for macro photography and there is little need for AF, if at all.

Maybe the 50mm will be a semi macro as well? Zeiss's 50mm and 100mm f/2 2:1 macros don't really have much competision besides the Tamron 60mm f/2.

 

[ecka]

What Samyang should really do is designing a nice MACRO LENS or two (like 100mm and 200mm). Good manual focus ring works beautifully for macro photography and there is little need for AF, if at all.

Maybe the 50mm will be a semi macro as well? Zeiss's 50mm and 100mm f/2 2:1 macros don't really have much competision besides the Tamron 60mm f/2.

I'm not sure, 50mm is kind of a standard do-it-all prime, and I would like it to have AF . My 40mm pancake with some extension tubes can do macro as well. The 1:2 mag. would require a tube too, but its working distance is unusable for hunting insects. The AF 50/2 Macro would be great though, I would trade my 40 for that.


EDIT: I know some people have like 8 different 50(ish)mm lenses in their bags for whatever reason . I'm not that guy.