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Seeing Rebels....

Dukinald

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So we spent the July 4th weekend at Williamsburg, VA and was at Busch gardens this past weekend. For some reason I started noticing peoples' DSLRs. Based on my observation, the Canon rebels probably outnumber any other DSLR 4-1.

The family we were with had a T3 and kit lens while I was lugging a 6D with a 24-105. Seems most other families who had rebels just have kit lenses. I even saw a family of 5 lugging 3 rebels with them.

Do you have the same observation across all the theme parks in the US and even the rest of the world? Maybe this is jus here in the US.

Canon seems to have the correct formula to the consumer/entry-level market. Not quite sure what "it" is? If I had to start today I might not even pick Canon or recommend one (entry level only) to a friend.They are not the MP king, sensor / IQ not leading edge and there are others which are cheaper - attributes consumers usually look for. But I surely have my reasons why I'm sticking with them. Maybe it's just in the brand and marketing.
 
I've seen the same thing and I can't remember the number, but somewhere I read that something like 80% percent of SLR owners (mostly entry level based on the sheer numbers) never take the kit lens off their camera. They want a "pro" looking camera that takes great photos and the Rebels do that very well. Of course that's why mirrorless will never sell well in the US (not to mention small cars, etc.) - we Americans like our stuff big and want to look professional ;D
 
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Here in Brazil Canon Rebel dominate the market for entry level DSLR in a ratio 2 to 1. So even professional photographers use extensively Rebel for small jobs, like birthdays with the kit lens or Tamron 17-50mm.

For some strange reason the female photographers prefer things like Nikon D3200, but they all use the kit lens. Maybe they import more with megapicles.
Another incomprehensible thing is that all camera users D3200 with kit lens, use flash SB900/910 top line, and never know adjust the flash menu.
 
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You think you've seen rebelmania?

Try being in the Washington DC area from mid May-August. The swarms of locus- I mean tourists clogging the sidewalks and subway system are nearly all carrying rebels or D3xxx with the 18-55 and neck strap from the box. I'd say 95% of those are in the green mode. I have noticed a few more mirrorless this summer than last though.
 
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It's common, I find myself looking when people watching. I think there is something to be said by brand identity, but you're missing the biggest point - these people will not purchase a new camera for at least another 5 years. How do I figure - look at all the silver rebel's out there. Canon and Nikon are competing with themselves as there isn't a must have feature on any current dslr made - a T1i does video and that was 2009. The old adage was to take your photos to the next step, the dslr body on Auto is better than a Point n Shoot. No one says what you'll get by replacing it with anything better.

Lots of folks will talk your ear off about what they've been shooting or what they're brother in law has, but generally, the compact low end dslr has 99% of what these folks want. Nothing you tell them will get them to upgrade, let alone get a lens other than the kit zoom(s). All these cameras will hang from their OEM straps, sit in proudly labeled OEM bags, with a few hundred shots per year. Folks don't really care if they can get bigger, cleaner, better images - they'll just take the memory card down to the local print shop and get some 5x7's and call it a day.

I worry that the slacking demand for low end cameras will adversely effect the development money that Canon and Nikon have going forward.
 
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seamonster said:
You think you've seen rebelmania?

Try being in the Washington DC area from mid May-August. The swarms of locus- I mean tourists clogging the sidewalks and subway system are nearly all carrying rebels or D3xxx with the 18-55 and neck strap from the box. I'd say 95% of those are in the green mode. I have noticed a few more mirrorless this summer than last though.

I can just imagine ;D

Last time we were in DC, I was still using my EOS 5 film camera.
 
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axtstern said:
In China I see the same on a different Level:
EOS 5D, 5DII or 5DIII but always with the 24-105 L and the Standard Canon Strap

No surprise there. The 24-105 L is the best walk-around lens you can carry with a full frame camera. Never been wild about the Canon straps though – not particularly comfortable. Although I do like the CPS strap that Opti-Tech makes for Canon.

ajfotofilmagem said:
3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use? It's one thing to observe what camera someone has (and since manufacturers often put the model name on the strap, it's easy for those of us to don't follow the mass market offerings closely) from afar, but getting up close enough to observe mode-selection dials? That's weird. IJS.
Canon Rumors is full of weird people. :P

Clearly.
 
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I'm in Australia and at sporting events, its almost all Canon. This is especially noticeable at rally car races, where virtually everyone is carrying a Canon DSLR. But otherwise, I think Australia is rapidly become mirrorless central. In particular, I'm noticing a lot more Sony Nex and Olympus cameras.
 
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3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use? It's one thing to observe what camera someone has (and since manufacturers often put the model name on the strap, it's easy for those of us to don't follow the mass market offerings closely) from afar, but getting up close enough to observe mode-selection dials? That's weird. IJS.

It's kinda obvious when rebel users came to me and asked for photography advice. Not only they were shooting in the green mode, they were also using auto focus(camera focus to nearest point.)

Would that considered as "weird"?
 
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Dylan777 said:
3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use? It's one thing to observe what camera someone has (and since manufacturers often put the model name on the strap, it's easy for those of us to don't follow the mass market offerings closely) from afar, but getting up close enough to observe mode-selection dials? That's weird. IJS.

It's kinda obvious when rebel users came to me and asked for photography advice. Not only they were shooting in the green mode, they were also using auto focus(camera focus to nearest point.)

Would that considered as "weird"?

I usually only notice brand and type of body&lens combo and there are lots of rebels and kit lenses, really lots, even here in Slovakia, but in general everywhere I travelled. It happens to me I'm quite often asked to take a picture for someone. And then 99% of those cameras is in auto mode, ok maybe even 100%
 
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unfocused said:
axtstern said:
In China I see the same on a different Level:
EOS 5D, 5DII or 5DIII but always with the 24-105 L and the Standard Canon Strap

No surprise there. The 24-105 L is the best walk-around lens you can carry with a full frame camera. Never been wild about the Canon straps though – not particularly comfortable. Although I do like the CPS strap that Opti-Tech makes for Canon.

ajfotofilmagem said:
3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use? It's one thing to observe what camera someone has (and since manufacturers often put the model name on the strap, it's easy for those of us to don't follow the mass market offerings closely) from afar, but getting up close enough to observe mode-selection dials? That's weird. IJS.
Canon Rumors is full of weird people. :P

Clearly.

I hate those Canon straps too, not only are they uncomfortable but they advertise your gear like you're some kind of touring sales rep. Not to mention they make you look even more like a tourist than you already are and just get in your way while doing portrait shots. Much prefer the BR style of strap if needed otherwise it's strapless.

Oh and there are rebels by the ton here in Japan during festivals. Though I do like it when I spot some not commonly seen stuff now and again. Couldn't care less what mode they use their gear in, that's their unfortunate business.
 
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There was a photo recently on this site of photographers at the world cup wearing Sony vests, yet virtually everyone was shooting Canon. It wasn't the high percentage of Canon users that surprised me. It was that they were all using the standard Canon strap.
 
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My office is on Independence Mall in Philadelphia, and I spend a fair amount of time in NY, so I see loads of tourists and yes, among dslr users Canons seem to dominate, with Nikon a close second. Entry level bodies + kit lens dominate, but I'm sometimes surprised by the number of higher-end bodies w L lenses attached (I've even seen one or two tourists with two 1Dxs + big white zooms dangling from their necks - hard to imagine enjoying that experience, esp. in a steamy mid-Atlantic summer). I tend to keep a look-out for other brands, but I doubt many will be surprised if I say that I don't often see M43, Fuji X and Sony A7/A7r; finding a fellow A7r or OM-D user is so rare I'm almost tempted to overcome my anglo reserve and go and talk to them.... (If you want to get funny/inquisitive looks, try using a mirrorless body of some sort with an old manual lens attached, as I often do.)
 
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3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use?

No you are not the only one. I try to spend the majority of my time not worrying about what other people do.

Besides, for a tourist picture, there is nothing wrong with setting the camera on Automatic. Nothing.

To the vast majority of the people who own DSLRs, it is a tool to take a picture. Nothing more or less. Besides the automatic setting on modern DSLRs does a pretty good job.
 
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I have a 5DIII and a 1D, but there is something about my t4i that I really like for just grabbing and taking it along in the car on a trip or a hike. I use it mostly with an EF-S 55-250mm lens as I can get a range of shots. I can make it small and light, or I can deck it out with a battery grip, Carry Speed viewfinder, and L lens of any kind. The darn thing takes good video too. I shoot in shutter, aperture, or manual mode depending on the situation. I use the Cinestyle profile, which is really great for color correction.

If I am planning on doing an important video then I will take the t4i to spec out the situation before bringing in the other cameras. I can take test videos, check out the lighting, exposure, depth of field, determine the lens, etc. Boom, with one small camera I can work out what I have to do.

What I am saying is that I can definitely see the reason why a lot of people use Rebels. The t4i is a great value for the money it costs. It gives anybody a great set of options. You can use it just for fun, or you can use it as work tool too.
 
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cid said:
Dylan777 said:
3kramd5 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what mode random people use? It's one thing to observe what camera someone has (and since manufacturers often put the model name on the strap, it's easy for those of us to don't follow the mass market offerings closely) from afar, but getting up close enough to observe mode-selection dials? That's weird. IJS.

It's kinda obvious when rebel users came to me and asked for photography advice. Not only they were shooting in the green mode, they were also using auto focus(camera focus to nearest point.)

Would that considered as "weird"?

I usually only notice brand and type of body&lens combo and there are lots of rebels and kit lenses, really lots, even here in Slovakia, but in general everywhere I travelled. It happens to me I'm quite often asked to take a picture for someone. And then 99% of those cameras is in auto mode, ok maybe even 100%

If I was gonna let someone take a picture with my camera, I'll probably set it to P so all the person needs to do is press the shutter. Unless Dof matters then I'll preset the Av.
 
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