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Sigma Announce a 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sport Lens

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<p>Sigma to announce a 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sport lens for Photokina. We’re still waiting for the press release to show up on Sigma’s official web site.</p>
<p><strong>Specifications

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<li>Construction: 24 elements, 16 groups (20 elements, 13 groups)</li>
<li>Filter diameter: 105 mm</li>
<li>Minimum focusing distance: 260 cm</li>
<li>Dimensions: 121 x 290.2 mm</li>
<li>Aperture blades: 9, rounded</li>
<li>Maximum magnification: 1:5</li>
<li>Weight: 2860 g / 100.88 oz.</li>
<li>Available mounts (at launch): Canon, Nikon, Sigma (Canon, Nikon, Sony)</li>
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<p>Source: [<a href="http://sigma-rumors.com/2014/09/sigma-150-600mm-f5-6-3-dg-os-hsm-sports-additional-details/" target="_blank">SR</a>/<a href="http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-monster-lens-form-sigma-150-600mm-f5-6-3-dg-os-hsm-weather-sealed-sport-zoom/" target="_blank">SAR</a>] via [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
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Of course, everybody has spare > 10,000 USD, which can spend on Canon 600 mm lenses :) Think thirst before you write :)

From specs it seems that these lenses will be in direct competition with very popular Tamron lenses. Real pros will be using expensive Canon lenses, but general public will be satisfied with affordable and very high quality lenses. Currently Tamron and Sigma are stealing show.... Canon is sleeping....
 
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East Wind Photography said:
Wow! Really F6.3 being marketed as a sports lens? Maybe on the planet Venus. Rarely is F6.3 enough to stop sports action.

"Sport" is just Sigma's term for their higher quality super telephotos. Part of the rebranding kick they've been on for the last few years. This lens is for the amateur wildlife/bird enthusiast on a budget, just like the Tammy. Considering how good the latest Sigma offerings have been, this should be pretty great. I can't wait to see the comparison reviews between this and the Tammy.

Also, like I said in the other thread in the other subforum for third party gear, I'm curious about whether this will take a 1.4x TC and still AF on f8 focusing bodies. The announcement suggests that it is optimized for the new line of TC's they are releasing soon. The 105mm filter size is quite a bit larger than necessary for 6.3 at the long end and could suggest it may be a bright 6.3 (hopefully).
 
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jrista said:
The age of the 150-600 has begun. I wonder what that spells for Canon's 100-400. Will we see a 100-400 II replacement? Or will Canon join in the fun with a 150-600 as well...

I think it's very possible that Canon does not join in on the fun in order to not cannabilize sales of their 600mm supertelephoto. Now, my sample size is rather small, but there's a couple guys in my local photo club who do photography as a hobby, but also have good jobs, and both had the Canon 600mm. When the Tamron came out, those two gentlemen both sold their Canons for the Tamron. To some, I guess they don't need the absolute best quality, but rather the ease of getting 600mm. I'm sure there are others who once having experienced the superiority of the Canon would absolutely not go down to a Tamron, but the issue remains that more affordable versions can take sales away from the top of the line models. I suspect if for whatever reason Canon did decide to enter this field, their lens would outperform the Tamron. At that point, you even more have the possibility of a very good lens, and more versatile, taking sales away from a great lens.

Having said all that, I truly DO wish Canon would make a copy of the Tamron. I'm very impressed by Canon quality lately (as well as Sigma). I don't use 600mm enough to warrant paying 5 digits for a lens, nor do I have that much disposable income, but I certainly would buy a 150-600 from Canon even if it cost 3k, possibly even 4k.

I guess that's why these large companies have market research teams. Weighing the options of people like me, vs people like those in my photo club. Which makes them more money in the long run.
 
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SoullessPolack said:
jrista said:
The age of the 150-600 has begun. I wonder what that spells for Canon's 100-400. Will we see a 100-400 II replacement? Or will Canon join in the fun with a 150-600 as well...

I think it's very possible that Canon does not join in on the fun in order to not cannabilize sales of their 600mm supertelephoto. Now, my sample size is rather small, but there's a couple guys in my local photo club who do photography as a hobby, but also have good jobs, and both had the Canon 600mm. When the Tamron came out, those two gentlemen both sold their Canons for the Tamron. To some, I guess they don't need the absolute best quality, but rather the ease of getting 600mm. I'm sure there are others who once having experienced the superiority of the Canon would absolutely not go down to a Tamron, but the issue remains that more affordable versions can take sales away from the top of the line models. I suspect if for whatever reason Canon did decide to enter this field, their lens would outperform the Tamron. At that point, you even more have the possibility of a very good lens, and more versatile, taking sales away from a great lens.

Having said all that, I truly DO wish Canon would make a copy of the Tamron. I'm very impressed by Canon quality lately (as well as Sigma). I don't use 600mm enough to warrant paying 5 digits for a lens, nor do I have that much disposable income, but I certainly would buy a 150-600 from Canon even if it cost 3k, possibly even 4k.

I guess that's why these large companies have market research teams. Weighing the options of people like me, vs people like those in my photo club. Which makes them more money in the long run.

Well, owning the EF 600mm f/4 L II myself, I honestly having a VERY hard time believing anyone who owned one would ever sell it for the Temmy 150-600. If you've ever used a lens of the same caliber as the Canon 600...there is simply no alternative. You usually use such a lens on a tripod...so it isn't like weight is really a concern. I could see ADDING the 150-600 for use while traveling, but I just cannot imagine anyone selling the 600...not unless they had serious financial concerns and were forced to.
 
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Having owned the 150-500 OS I swore I'd never buy a budget telephoto zoom again. And lets face it even if this Sigma costs 2K its still a budget telephoto zoom in terms of the focal lenght and features you are getting for your money. I will watch this one closely as I expect the image quality of this lens will be very acceptable. I'd like to see how it compares to the 120-300 S+2x both at 600mm and both at F8.
I currently use the Sigma 300+2x which is alright at F8. I would prefer Sigma to update that lens and I hope they do or else a 400 F4 OS would be very sweet.
 
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Tiosabas said:
Having owned the 150-500 OS I swore I'd never buy a budget telephoto zoom again. And lets face it even if this Sigma costs 2K its still a budget telephoto zoom in terms of the focal lenght and features you are getting for your money. I will watch this one closely as I expect the image quality of this lens will be very acceptable. I'd like to see how it compares to the 120-300 S+2x both at 600mm and both at F8.
I currently use the Sigma 300+2x which is alright at F8. I would prefer Sigma to update that lens and I hope they do or else a 400 F4 OS would be very sweet.

Here is the tamron 150-600 vs the sigma 120-300. Tamron is sharper in the center but the sigma is better in the corners. http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=929&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=5&API=2&LensComp=844&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=7&APIComp=4
 
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jrista said:
SoullessPolack said:
jrista said:
The age of the 150-600 has begun. I wonder what that spells for Canon's 100-400. Will we see a 100-400 II replacement? Or will Canon join in the fun with a 150-600 as well...

I think it's very possible that Canon does not join in on the fun in order to not cannabilize sales of their 600mm supertelephoto. Now, my sample size is rather small, but there's a couple guys in my local photo club who do photography as a hobby, but also have good jobs, and both had the Canon 600mm. When the Tamron came out, those two gentlemen both sold their Canons for the Tamron. To some, I guess they don't need the absolute best quality, but rather the ease of getting 600mm. I'm sure there are others who once having experienced the superiority of the Canon would absolutely not go down to a Tamron, but the issue remains that more affordable versions can take sales away from the top of the line models. I suspect if for whatever reason Canon did decide to enter this field, their lens would outperform the Tamron. At that point, you even more have the possibility of a very good lens, and more versatile, taking sales away from a great lens.

Having said all that, I truly DO wish Canon would make a copy of the Tamron. I'm very impressed by Canon quality lately (as well as Sigma). I don't use 600mm enough to warrant paying 5 digits for a lens, nor do I have that much disposable income, but I certainly would buy a 150-600 from Canon even if it cost 3k, possibly even 4k.

I guess that's why these large companies have market research teams. Weighing the options of people like me, vs people like those in my photo club. Which makes them more money in the long run.

Well, owning the EF 600mm f/4 L II myself, I honestly having a VERY hard time believing anyone who owned one would ever sell it for the Temmy 150-600. If you've ever used a lens of the same caliber as the Canon 600...there is simply no alternative. You usually use such a lens on a tripod...so it isn't like weight is really a concern. I could see ADDING the 150-600 for use while traveling, but I just cannot imagine anyone selling the 600...not unless they had serious financial concerns and were forced to.
I don't have the 600 f/4, but I bought the 200-400 to shoot photos of my (then) 4 year old son. I've used it all summer to take photos of my son in soccer and just can't imagine selling it unless I have serious financial hardships so much that I can't even pay my mortgage. Even if I don't use it much, I'm going to keep it in the closet for when I do.

Anyone who shoots at 600mm and is worried about IQ, is going to use some sort of support. I've shot at 560 without support but only because I needed to swing around real quick or I didn't yet have my lens mounted. Once you have the lens mounted, weight really isn't an issue. The only time weight is an issue is when you are transporting it. I can see myself buying a "budget-minded" long lens for travel but even in that case, I would never sell my 200-400.

I'm not saying no one would ever sell a 600mm f/4, but I do have a hard time understanding why one would do so except for financial reasons.
 
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East Wind Photography said:
Wow! Really F6.3 being marketed as a sports lens? Maybe on the planet Venus. Rarely is F6.3 enough to stop sports action.
Sports action isn't stopped by aperture, it is stopped by shutter speed. If the shutter speed isn't fast enough, just raise the ISO. I'm pretty sure that is what Canon 1Dx and Nikon D4x users do when using their 200-400 lenses with a 1.4x TC.
 
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Well, owning the EF 600mm f/4 L II myself, I honestly having a VERY hard time believing anyone who owned one would ever sell it for the Temmy 150-600. If you've ever used a lens of the same caliber as the Canon 600...there is simply no alternative. You usually use such a lens on a tripod...so it isn't like weight is really a concern. I could see ADDING the 150-600 for use while traveling, but I just cannot imagine anyone selling the 600...not unless they had serious financial concerns and were forced to.
I don't own the Canon 600mm and I can't imagine that either! Especially at 600mm. I rented the Tammy for a trip to Malheur Wildlife Refuge and wasn't that impressed- I'll try to rent the Sigma though as I don't see my budget ever getting to the 600mm. I do wonder if any of them have considered a crop sensor long lens- would that be considerably less expensive to build...and market... and would there be enough demand? Say, a fixed 500mm?
 
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Tiosabas said:
Having owned the 150-500 OS I swore I'd never buy a budget telephoto zoom again. And lets face it even if this Sigma costs 2K its still a budget telephoto zoom in terms of the focal lenght and features you are getting for your money. I will watch this one closely as I expect the image quality of this lens will be very acceptable.

+1. I dislike f/6.3 zooms but could use something longer than my 100-400.... For motorsports, an f/6.3 maximum aperture is fine, by the way.
 
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