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Sony to unveil a 50 MP new A7 body at Photokina?

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http://www.slrlounge.com/sony-announce-new-50mp-high-resolution-a7x-photokina/

Take this rumor with a grain of salt, but that would make a heck of a splash...

- A
 
distant.star said:
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Doesn't Sony introduce a new camera every day?
18 e-mount cameras since 2010 (not counting video cameras)....23 e-mount lenses (of which at least 2 were refreshes of existing ones).

Imagine how much better off they'd be if they had just made the NEX5 or NEX7 and build a lens system around it.
 
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daniela said:
neuroanatomist said:
50 MP, 16 stops of DR. Canon must respond to that!!

::)

Mr Neuro if you make an facebook account and find, lets say 5 million followers, Canon will listen to your whishes. But maybe in a few years the ::) will become an 8)

I'm thinking he will be 8) if they were to release the 5D4 as APS-C with the 20D sensor and 2fps. Hey, it has the Canon label on it! ;D
 
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A7r is the FF version of the venerable 16MP APSC sensor
54MP would be a FF version of the current 24MP crop sensor. I don't see this as a surprise, just an eventuality.
Who gets to use it first tho, sony or nikon, is more the question.
 
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Hi,
preppyak said:
distant.star said:
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Doesn't Sony introduce a new camera every day?
18 e-mount cameras since 2010 (not counting video cameras)....23 e-mount lenses (of which at least 2 were refreshes of existing ones).

Imagine how much better off they'd be if they had just made the NEX5 or NEX7 and build a lens system around it.
WOW... so many?? They thought they are selling TV??

Anyway, if I buying an electronics product that's I need it to last, it'll not be a Sony product... their support is very bad especially if it's an old model.

Have a nice day.
 
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Japanese rumors: As i heard from my Japanese girlfriends, the 50MP Sony is not the highlight. The highlight is, that sony is working on an curved sensor. This sensor could possibly be an little revolution on the sensor market. The image quality of the edges and non-center areas would be dramatically better, CAs and other optical problem would be reduced. And optically this curved sensor would rise the resolution in the edge areas.
Sony - (rumored!) - is working on new lenses that could be optimized on this new sensor. The lenses would be a lot cheaper to be produced (abberation correction would be not so difficult).
Nikon is interested in this technology too.
 
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daniela said:
Japanese rumors: As i heard from my Japanese girlfriends, the 50MP Sony is not the highlight. The highlight is, that sony is working on an curved sensor. This sensor could possibly be an little revolution on the sensor market. The image quality of the edges and non-center areas would be dramatically better, CAs and other optical problem would be reduced. And optically this curved sensor would rise the resolution in the edge areas.
Sony - (rumored!) - is working on new lenses that could be optimized on this new sensor. The lenses would be a lot cheaper to be produced (abberation correction would be not so difficult).
Nikon is interested in this technology too.
Yeah, that idea has been mentioned before, including official photos from such technology. Ideal for a permanently attached fixed focal length lens, such as an RX1 type camera or a smart phone. Or even a perfume bottle.
 
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daniela said:
My Japanese girlfriends talked about this rumor yesterday.
As one of the poster wrote: The lenses are missing. and you will ned an highend lens to meet the resolution.
But 50MP for landscape... Our big landscape picture in the living room would get a lot sharper ;)

... and you need a larger or more livingrooms to hang all the perfect landscapes in 80 x 120 ".
 
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daniela said:
Japanese rumors: As i heard from my Japanese girlfriends, the 50MP Sony is not the highlight. The highlight is, that sony is working on an curved sensor. This sensor could possibly be an little revolution on the sensor market. The image quality of the edges and non-center areas would be dramatically better, CAs and other optical problem would be reduced. And optically this curved sensor would rise the resolution in the edge areas.
Sony - (rumored!) - is working on new lenses that could be optimized on this new sensor. The lenses would be a lot cheaper to be produced (abberation correction would be not so difficult).
Nikon is interested in this technology too.

And both can sell a new line of lenses which is incompatible with the old ones ... I don't like that idea too much. Have no money printing machine and are not interested to use too many incompatible equipment or lug it around.
 
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RLPhoto said:
That would make me buy an a7. Really? 50mp? This is madness...

Not too mad I think: Just the evergreen 18 MPix APS-sensors of canon will result in a roughly 50 MPix sensor if expanded to 24x36mm.

I dream about a 48 MPix sensor which can used to produce 12 MPix images where each final image pixel is calculated from a RGGB sensor pixel quadruplet in camera or during post processing.

Just my more conservative lenses like 2.8 24, 2.8 40, 2.0 100 or 2.8 100 Macro would profit from both, the full resolution or the quarter resolution mode!

Might be an option to replace the EOS M and still use Canon EF and FD lenses or a Rodagon 5.6 120mm with FD bellows.
 
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Sony a 50 MP camera.
Samsung with a NX1 that has fantastic specs.

Canon?
Jumps on the 1" P&S waggon and shows a boring 7D evolution. :(

That´s not the same company that impressed me with great innovativ products in the past.

Canon always was the technology leader in the Camera biz.
Today it´s just making good enough Cameras with mediocre sensors. :(

If not for the Lenses, why would you buy into Canon these days?

As working Pro there are maybe some reasons, i can see that.
But for Amateur or Enthusiast Canon has lost much of it´s appeal.

It´s sad.
 
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Gantz said:
Sony a 50 MP camera.
Samsung with a NX1 that has fantastic specs.

Canon?
Jumps on the 1" P&S waggon and shows a boring 7D evolution. :(

That´s not the same company that impressed me with great innovativ products in the past.

Canon always was the technology leader in the Camera biz.
Today it´s just making good enough Cameras with mediocre sensors. :(

If not for the Lenses, why would you buy into Canon these days?

As working Pro there are maybe some reasons, i can see that.
But for Amateur or Enthusiast Canon has lost much of it´s appeal.

It´s sad.

I know 4 working pro's who shoot mostly in advertising in a studio who have moved away from Canon. I stay with Canon because it is the best for my kind of photography - fast action in bad light.
 
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Sizzle Sells.

For Canon the sizzle is in the optics and pro-grade gear. Robust. Long lasting. Great ergonimics. All supported by rock-solid pro support.

For Sony the sizzle is innovation. They have to do something unique to capture potential buyers attention. It certainly gets a lot of tongues wagging on these forums. Sony's profitability as a company will be lower than Canon's as Sony needs to invest much more heavily in R&D, particularly if Sony has to cut it's gross margin to keep sales prices low.

Innovation costs and camera gear sales are dropping. Dramatically.

Many of us want the newest, brightest, shiniest new tools. It's difficult not to be distracted by all the great news and appearance of innovation. But how is any of this changing the images we shoot? How is any of this making our lives visibly better as artists (for those of us who are artists, that is)?

There is a part of me that wishes Canon would follow it's amazing 5D MkII with something bigger and, therefore, "better". 50mpixel could float my boat. It's really hard not to be distracted by the sizzle coming from other companies, but I'm too heavily invested in Canon and they have me hooked, for better or worse.

Would I jump to Sony if they offered a 50mpixel tool? Not if it's burst rate is the current A7r's! Not if it's AF ability in the studio is as poor as the A7r's!! Not if it's battery life is on the order of a 100 images or so!!!

Sony HAS to offer a TON of sizzle to try and get the market's attention. Looking at the details of what they offer often leaves me satisfied to remain where I am.

Gantz said:
Sony a 50 MP camera.
Samsung with a NX1 that has fantastic specs.

Canon?

... If not for the Lenses, why would you buy into Canon these days?

As working Pro there are maybe some reasons, i can see that.
But for Amateur or Enthusiast Canon has lost much of it´s appeal...
 
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neuroanatomist said:
50 MP, 16 stops of DR. Canon must respond to that!!

::)

No, they don't. This is land of the Canon fanboy. Don't you understand that in the world sensors don't matter. They never mattered since Camon had the best sensors. Now the lens line up is the only think that matters. DxoMark says other company's have better lenses? Then DXOMark doesn't matter. This is Canonland and the only thing that matters is our stuff is the best
 
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