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Spartans, What is your profession?
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If Privatebydesign's full-time photography has him shooting 1 day a week, my part-time photography work has me shooting a just a few hours a month. I have done more or less depending on the work, but in my small market, most of it is mundane and there's not much of it. I enjoy it, though, and it funds the majority of my camera gear along with some teaching and financial consulting work I do on the side.
My current contracting gig is as an IT project manager / management consultant, currently managing large homeland security projects for a state agency. In former lives, I have been a technical writer, web & graphic designer, and even had a brief stint as a fashion photographer.
My current contracting gig is as an IT project manager / management consultant, currently managing large homeland security projects for a state agency. In former lives, I have been a technical writer, web & graphic designer, and even had a brief stint as a fashion photographer.
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candc said:IMG_0001 said:Sunnystate said:Working as professional artist my entire life. In the niche and the region that I am active, relatively accomplished and respected.
I am amazed that majority of professions here are representing group of population using predominantly left side of the brain, and apparently pretty secure financially as well.
That probably explains why CR discussions in general seem to be detached with reality of the true market out there
Honestly, I was expecting more of an artists, poets, writers or musician to be in to photography than pilots, engineers, physicists or economists
Now it is clear to me why we don't have here enough posts (in my humble opinion) that are able to voice large group of users that beside the logic also follow intuition, gut feelings, emotions, or trends based on whatever (mode, looks, cool factor or social demands)
As a note I like to point out that most accomplished leaders in technology were/are people claiming to listen to intuition and gut feelings beside numbers, formulas and statistics, just like Tim Cook stated only couple of weeks a go
I would have to be surprised of you being surprised, and for a few reasons:
1- Photography is an expensive and technical 'art form'.
2- Liberal professionals are surely more likely to state their jobs and say that they enjoy photo as a hobby than people working at the grocery store as they have less chance of feeling shy about their work. (No offence meant to store clerks as there are no bad jobs), I'm sure everyone gets the point...
3- Engineers like to say they are engineers (by the way, did you know I'm an engineer?).
4- The amount of creativity required in scientific, academic and technical careers is much higher than is usually believed, although the expression of that creativity is different than than of those perceived as artistic.
5- CR is about photographic equipment.
6- I see a lot of very emotive posts about DR, crop vs ff, color spaces and evf vs off!
And so on.
However, I'm curious about you 'working as a professional artist'. I thought being an artist was a condition you were born with, not a form of employment...
Point proven.
Sonnystate's point is proven of course...
Sunnystate said:LOL. being an artist is a condition, but in my case condition that I only brought on myself for various reasons mainly because it became source of my income in critical moment of my life.
Seems like everybody here do worry about future of Canon as a leader, and about quality of Canon products, but CR apparently represents only small group of consumers mostly from developed countries like USA. All I am saying is that you guys represent just that, rather small elite of pretty privileged people. The point is that you will not be able to sustain Canon if everybody else including store clerks abandon it.
I would like to believe that Canon has other venues of gathering information, and CR is NOT the way to gauge general photographers needs. Most vocal members here represent no more than 5% of consumers (maybe just 1% LOL)
I believe that we should tone down our opinions here a bit and stop speaking for others about what Canon should or should not do, or what the other users, SHOULD need/like or not, and the most ridiculous how much we should pay for particular Canon products or futures.
Hope one of the Canon big executives do have the soul of a genius artist and will go with gut feelings and will revolutionize DSLR market once again to the point that the store clerks will be compelled to use credit card and buy new Canon camera models, just like they did with the 5D classic.
And our beloved corporation named Canon will prosper so you will be able to buy top of the line products without paying ridiculous premiums as a result
IMG_0001 said:Sunnystate said:Working as professional artist my entire life. In the niche and the region that I am active, relatively accomplished and respected.
I am amazed that majority of professions here are representing group of population using predominantly left side of the brain, and apparently pretty secure financially as well.
That probably explains why CR discussions in general seem to be detached with reality of the true market out there
Honestly, I was expecting more of an artists, poets, writers or musician to be in to photography than pilots, engineers, physicists or economists
Now it is clear to me why we don't have here enough posts (in my humble opinion) that are able to voice large group of users that beside the logic also follow intuition, gut feelings, emotions, or trends based on whatever (mode, looks, cool factor or social demands)
As a note I like to point out that most accomplished leaders in technology were/are people claiming to listen to intuition and gut feelings beside numbers, formulas and statistics, just like Tim Cook stated only couple of weeks a go
I would have to be surprised of you being surprised, and for a few reasons:
1- Photography is an expensive and technical 'art form'.
2- Liberal professionals are surely more likely to state their jobs and say that they enjoy photo as a hobby than people working at the grocery store as they have less chance of feeling shy about their work. (No offence meant to store clerks as there are no bad jobs), I'm sure everyone gets the point...
3- Engineers like to say they are engineers (by the way, did you know I'm an engineer?).
4- The amount of creativity required in scientific, academic and technical careers is much higher than is usually believed, although the expression of that creativity is different than than of those perceived as artistic.
5- CR is about photographic equipment.
6- I see a lot of very emotive posts about DR, crop vs ff, color spaces and evf vs off!
And so on.
However, I'm curious about you 'working as a professional artist'. I thought being an artist was a condition you were born with, not a form of employment...
I agree that the population active on CR, particularly from that thread, is likely to be representitve of quite a small portion of the Canon camera user base. But, boy are we convinced we know what people want in a camera! And when someone asks for critics or comments on a picture, boy do we know what is wrong with it!
Its hard trying to be objective in such a subjective world...
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IMG_0001 said:
Good luck with that. There are few things worse than being a Ph.D Candidate. ;D
I still have PTSD flashbacks from my doctorate. Those scars take a long time to heal. LoL
Have you lost all interest in your dissertation topic? Has the process sucked all the life and motivation from you? Do you hate your chair? Do you think every single day "why am I doing this?"
Then you are a Ph.D Candidate. <snicker>
Good luck with it and get er done!
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AcutancePhotography said:
Thanks!
Actually, I got back to liking both my subject and advisor about a year ago. The year before that, I was at the bottom of the barrel however. May be you know the feeling of starting on working real hard on a topic and the more you work, the less plausible most of the fundamental hypotheses get, and then they just start falling apart...
Luckily for me, it turned out that one of the secondary paths we had opened started to demonstrate some nice potential. That is when light started to shine again I was able to build some meomentum back. Now I'm in the process of publishing a few papers on the outcomes and I should be through with the defense sometimes this summer.
By the way, Ph.D is itself an acronym for a specific stem of PTSD. Permenant Head Damage, never fully recoverable... You probably remember wondering, while you were an undergrad, if your professors were born like that or they became like that. Well, they were not born so... That's just the most accute form of the Ph.D syndrome.
My girlfriend however hates my thesis subject and advisor...
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