Stock Notice: Loupedeck Photo Editing Console for Lightroom 6 & CC

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B&H Photo has stock of the brand new Loupedeck Photo Editing Console for Lightroom 6 & CC, they are the only retailer in the USA with stock. Watch the video above to learn more, or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LimIhl_phk">view it here</a>.</p>
<p class="fs16 OpenSans-600-normal upper product-highlights-header">PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS</p>
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<li class="top-section-list-item">For Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 6 & CC</li>
<li class="top-section-list-item">Speeds Up Editing Workflow</li>
<li class="top-section-list-item">Dedicated Dials, Wheels, and Keys</li>
<li class="top-section-list-item">Access to Common Settings and Functions</li>
<li class="top-section-list-item">Programmable Preset Buttons</li>
<li class="top-section-list-item">USB 2.0 Connectivity</li>
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<p><strong><a href="https://bhpho.to/2vIkwe1">Loupedeck Photo Editing Console for Lightroom 6 & CC $299 at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>


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j-nord said:
Regardless of price, I cannot fathom the usefulness of this product unless you are trying to edit from your couch.
It's mostly of use for people who have muscle and/or joint pains. Clicking through LR with a mouse over and over for however many hundreds or thousands of photos you take each week is a good way to cause RSI or aggravate existing conditions. This console allows you to mix up the motions your hands go through so as to not aggravate anything.

Of course there are also many people who simply prefer more tactile interfaces. Many people on this very site complain about touch screens and would rather have more physical buttons and dials. Fuji have (re)made their name with a system which brought back aperture rings and top dials. Many people still insist on manual focus, no matter how good AF becomes. Lots of people insist on driving manual cars as opposed to automatics, and lots of DJs still literally, physically spin discs rather than just click a playlist on a laptop.

Personally, I'm in the first camp. I already mix up using a mouse and a pen tablet to ease the strain on my hands. If this console was readily available in the UK and was more reasonably priced ($300 is a bad joke), I'd gladly buy one.
 
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Don't Lightroom sliders serve the same functions?

If well designed and manufactured, it may allow for subtler and quicker adjustments. Consoles like this are quite common for video/audio editing (where the parameters to play with are more, and there are dynamic transitions), even now those editing are made through a PC and everything can be on a screen. But I'd need to try one for still image editing, to check if they are useful enough to justify the price.

It would be interesting to know how they integrated it with LR. If it just emulates the keyboard/mouse input, there's little to pay for. It if allow for finer control, it could be more interesting.
 
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I use a common cheap audio controller/mixing console (Behringer BCF2000) together with the MIDI2LR Software. The Software is free and you can get a cheap console for 50€ or so. The Behringer one you can get used for 100 € I think. That controler has motor faders. So when you switch to an edited photo the sliders move to the correct position of the setting. that is really cool.
 
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Don Haines said:
BeenThere said:
Don't Lightroom sliders serve the same functions?

Yes, but this way you get to buy additional hardware for $300 while you complain about the $100 subscription price for lightroom....

Or the money I saved by getting a perpetual license nearly 2.5 years ago with soon pay for this ridiculous device! ;)
 
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Fatalv said:
Don Haines said:
BeenThere said:
Don't Lightroom sliders serve the same functions?

Yes, but this way you get to buy additional hardware for $300 while you complain about the $100 subscription price for lightroom....

Or the money I saved by getting a perpetual license nearly 2.5 years ago with soon pay for this ridiculous device! ;)
No, because the $7.99 a month gets you Photoshop and Bridge as well as Lightroom. Sure if you don't need those two then the perpetual license you can still get for LR makes sense, but if you do need them it is a screaming good deal when compared to other business costs.
 
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LDS said:
It would be interesting to know how they integrated it with LR. If it just emulates the keyboard/mouse input, there's little to pay for. It if allow for finer control, it could be more interesting.
It does not allow for finer control. In fact it offers clumsier control as some of the controls only move perimeters up in set increments (e.g. +/-5 at a time), whereas of course with a mouse or pen you can adjust anything wherever you want or simply type in the value you want.

But it should really go without saying that if you're that much of a control freak then you'll always want to use either a mouse or a very high resolution interactive display.
 
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aceflibble said:
LDS said:
It would be interesting to know how they integrated it with LR. If it just emulates the keyboard/mouse input, there's little to pay for. It if allow for finer control, it could be more interesting.
It does not allow for finer control. In fact it offers clumsier control as some of the controls only move perimeters up in set increments (e.g. +/-5 at a time), whereas of course with a mouse or pen you can adjust anything wherever you want or simply type in the value you want.

But it should really go without saying that if you're that much of a control freak then you'll always want to use either a mouse or a very high resolution interactive display.

If you watch the video, though, there isn't a mouse attached to the notebook. So, perhaps, this is designed considering those who suffer from such extreme murophobia (fear of mice) that even plastic facsimiles will drive them to bring out the baseball bat.

But really, there aren't enough dials. There should be a dial for every single slider in Lightroom, and a switch for every checkbox. And when you hit the switch, the dial should automatically become recessed so that you know that it can't be used anymore. Plus, the dials should be marked, and when you move the sliders on the screen, the dials should also turn.

And an Auto mode. When you push the button, all the dials should light up, and turn by themselves into an optimal position.

Just think of the advantages. Instead of saving a preset, you could take a picture of all your settings. And process that picture with the Loupedeck so that it's properly exposed!! Oh, what fun.
 
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RayValdez360 said:
This thing is seriously stupid especially for that price also if it is for people with muscle issues, it should be marketed that way.

Professional colourists, audio engineers etc predominantly use custom designed interfaces that cost 10x this because it speeds up their workflow and gives them more tactile control over the changes they're making.

If your time is money and using a dedicated interface saves you half an hour a day (which it will once you've learned to use it), it pays for itself in no time at all.

While I don't know much about this particular interface, the idea that building hardware interfaces is 'seriously stupid' is... well... lets just say pretty dumb.
 
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syder said:
RayValdez360 said:
This thing is seriously stupid especially for that price also if it is for people with muscle issues, it should be marketed that way.

Professional colourists, audio engineers etc predominantly use custom designed interfaces that cost 10x this because it speeds up their workflow and gives them more tactile control over the changes they're making.

If your time is money and using a dedicated interface saves you half an hour a day (which it will once you've learned to use it), it pays for itself in no time at all.

While I don't know much about this particular interface, the idea that building hardware interfaces is 'seriously stupid' is... well... lets just say pretty dumb.

No, I don't think that specialized hardware interfaces are dumb at all. I've bought plenty of all sorts, and by all standards, this one is really cheap.

However, in this case, I think that the dials and such add nothing, and if anything, would slow down the workflow. It is much slower to turn a dial to move a slider from left to right, than just sliding it, or even more accurately, just typing in "25" or using your mouse to choose a preset.

If I were to seriously critique an objection, I would say that I think that for a device like this, dials need to be marked so that far left is 0 and far right is 100%, and it should be easy to look at the dial, and know that you're at 75%, or +3.5EV or +2 Vibrance or whatever. They should work like ring USM, and not like STM :)

But this paradigm would not work Lightroom, because from one photo to the next, the dials need to (automatically) be reset to different positions. So in order to make that happen, every dial would need to be motorized, and that would make it way too expensive for the target audience.
 
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privatebydesign said:
Fatalv said:
Don Haines said:
BeenThere said:
Don't Lightroom sliders serve the same functions?

Yes, but this way you get to buy additional hardware for $300 while you complain about the $100 subscription price for lightroom....

Or the money I saved by getting a perpetual license nearly 2.5 years ago with soon pay for this ridiculous device! ;)
No, because the $7.99 a month gets you Photoshop and Bridge as well as Lightroom. Sure if you don't need those two then the perpetual license you can still get for LR makes sense, but if you do need them it is a screaming good deal when compared to other business costs.

Actually, yes. I don't use Photoshop or Bridge, just Lightroom. Academic faculty upgrade price was around $50 on sale for a perpetual license, so I already got my screaming deal and saved $200.
 
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Talys said:
However, in this case, I think that the dials and such add nothing, and if anything, would slow down the workflow. It is much slower to turn a dial to move a slider from left to right, than just sliding it, or even more accurately, just typing in "25" or using your mouse to choose a preset.
+1 I have RSI and use a pad for all my work (21 years with my Fingerworks pads still going strong!).

This gadget does not look like a solution to me over using a (free) shortcut chart and the up/down left/right keys on the keyboard.
 
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I think it's a clever niche product.
I also think that without a motor to return all the dials to zero when you move to the next photo then it might be a little impractical.
It will appeal to some creatives.
It's ironic that lightrooms sliders emulate a sliding deck console.
Now there is sliding deck console emulating Lightroom.
Maybe Lightroom should have a variety of interfaces and one of them could emulate the Loupedeck
 
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Talys said:
syder said:
RayValdez360 said:
This thing is seriously stupid especially for that price also if it is for people with muscle issues, it should be marketed that way.

Professional colourists, audio engineers etc predominantly use custom designed interfaces that cost 10x this because it speeds up their workflow and gives them more tactile control over the changes they're making.

If your time is money and using a dedicated interface saves you half an hour a day (which it will once you've learned to use it), it pays for itself in no time at all.

While I don't know much about this particular interface, the idea that building hardware interfaces is 'seriously stupid' is... well... lets just say pretty dumb.

No, I don't think that specialized hardware interfaces are dumb at all. I've bought plenty of all sorts, and by all standards, this one is really cheap.

However, in this case, I think that the dials and such add nothing, and if anything, would slow down the workflow. It is much slower to turn a dial to move a slider from left to right, than just sliding it, or even more accurately, just typing in "25" or using your mouse to choose a preset.

If I were to seriously critique an objection, I would say that I think that for a device like this, dials need to be marked so that far left is 0 and far right is 100%, and it should be easy to look at the dial, and know that you're at 75%, or +3.5EV or +2 Vibrance or whatever. They should work like ring USM, and not like STM :)

But this paradigm would not work Lightroom, because from one photo to the next, the dials need to (automatically) be reset to different positions. So in order to make that happen, every dial would need to be motorized, and that would make it way too expensive for the target audience.

Well, there is a thing called motorised sliders. The dials are commonly rotary encoders and some of the better devices (the Loupedeck doesn't seem to be one of them) use LEDs to show you where on the scale you are. You can also see the sliders move in Lightroom.

With the MIDI2LR you should be able to have motorised sliders move when you use your mouse to change things in LR, but Loupedeck writes that "Unfortunately, Loupedeck cannot get feedback from Lightroom".

If you've got dials and sliders, you can modify more than one parameter at a time, such as contrast and exposure or blacks and shadow that are not really independent. Much faster than going back and forth between sliders with your mouse.
 
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Wait, what? Am I mistaken or does this ultra nice and slick gadget uses a wired USB connection? Why do they show their marketing material without a cable, when in fact, there is one? In today's age, it is imo pretty much stupid, when keyboard/mouse wireless combos are just so common ...
 
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