There are currently 3 EOS R system cameras coming in the second half of 2022 [CR2]

Chig

Birds in Flight Nutter
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I think that it will be highly unlikely for twin slots as much as the 7D users would prefer it (with the same weather sealing).
No need for an expensive new BSI sensor with low rolling shutter when video won't be a priority and 10-14fps could be handled by an existing sensor.
I could be wrong but the pricing will dictate what the feature set will be. I think that it will be priced under the R6
Rolling shutter is a problem for stills too with high speed action such as small fast birds or balls/bats in sports
 
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Otara

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If they released a 7D2 'mini 1DX' again Id be interested. If it was an M5 update I would be, even though I cant use EF_M with it. As said above, it probably will be neither, so be interesting to see what Canon's take is, Im guessing 90Dish? Ie a good camera at a useful pricepoint but probably not what people in this forum would be wishing for.
 
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vjlex

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I don't think that there will be any specific RF-s lenses. Either adapt EF-s lenses if you absolutely need wide angle or the RF 18-45mm f/4-5.6 IS STM as it should be cheap and small. You could always adapt the EF11-24mm but that combination would be more unlikely.
If Canon are releasing the R7 to cater for the pixels-subject-users then wide angle is less likely to be needed and I think that RF-s lenses would be sitting in inventory if they were released at all.
Personally, I'm not particularly interested in an RF-S lens, just an APS-C sensor. I only mention it because the asobinet article cited in this article mentions RF-S. I'm not sure how they arrived at it being RF-S, but it seems plausible.
 

vignes

EOS M50
Oct 19, 2017
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Canon APSC lens offer was not that great. I don't know why would someone invest on Canon EFS lens? At least the 3rd party ones were better.
Majority bought EF L lens and used it on APSC body. the only advantage was crop for more reach.
So Canon will do the same, come up with some cheap RF-S lens, bundle it and try to sell tons of it. Later get people buying RF lens.

in EF-FF, you couldn't use EF-S lens to crop but You can use crop mode in R5 to achieve the same. So, there isn't much value unless you're concern about resolution.
 

HMC11

Travel
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Sep 5, 2020
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The rumoured new R FF cameras seem to be replacements for RP & R. By putting the 1DXIII sensor in the entry-level camera, it would be psychologically challenging to buy an R6 even if the latter have much better features and control. It could well put downward price pressure on the R6 which is good news for me :). The R replacement, assuming it has a 30ish mpx would be most interesting for someone who don't really need 45mpx, and feels 20mpx limiting if heavy cropping is needed.
 
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unfocused

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...I'm genuinely glad that it's a solution that works for you, but I'd rather pay a bit extra to get a built-in EVF, and I wouldn't under any circumstances use a rear screen for my own photography for several reasons...

...I'm most definitely in the "no EVF/OVF, no buy" group!
Were you ever part of that target audience? If you are over 30, I doubt it. Don't fall into the trap of "I won't buy it, so they shouldn't make it." There are millions of people who have never used a viewfinder and wouldn't hesitate to buy a camera without one. I'm always surprised when I see someone shooting a Rebel using the rear screen, but that's just the way many people have always shot photos, even if I would never do it that way.
 
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quiquae

EOS M50
Jan 21, 2014
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The APS-C body is a head scratcher when taken literally: what's the point of mixing the high-speed action specialist 7D with the soccer mom generalist M50?
I wonder if the actual message is that they'll use the same sensor to make both a 7D successor on RF, and an M50 successor on EF-M (or maybe even RF). That would make a lot more sense--this would be a good time to prop up EF-M if Canon is planning to stick with it for another few years.

I also wonder if the reference to "true hybrid" means that they'll release a 45MP APS-C sensor that can shoot 8K. That would be very convenient for the video crowd, and the rumored RF cinema lenses would provide a good excuse to release this on RF rather than EF-M, especially if they're super-35 rather than full frame.
 
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Swerky

G1X Mark III
Sep 3, 2020
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No evf, fine as long as the camera would be compatible with the existing evf-dc2. Depending on specs, it would either be the entry level model or the one above it for me. The lenses I need exist already. Just need the cash flow.
 

chrisrmueller

EOS M50
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Oct 23, 2018
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Absolute winner for whom? Maybe not for Canon if they sell a crop R5 for less than it costs them to make it.
I think it would be a winner for consumers who want that body style but not a full frame sensor.

I don’t purport to know what it would cost for Canon to make this camera, but it is my understanding that the most expensive part of the camera is the sensor. If the development in the body is already there (meaning they don’t have to build from the ground up and just adjust cooling/firmware/etc. for the smaller sensor) and they swap the expensive full frame sensor for a cheaper APS-C, it may actually be within reason to sell something like this in the high $1,000’s. I bought my 7D Mark ii new for $1,500 when the 5D Mark iii was over $3,000. If an R6 is selling for $2,500, maybe it’s feasible.

I’m not an engineer or a salesperson though, so I’m just throwing ideas out there for the sake of conversation.
 
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bergstrom

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It has the 6Dii sensor in it which is fine for astro landscapes. I don't need good AF or fast fps and ISO800 is fine for colourful star trails. Manual shutter trigger and a dew heater.
The RP is amazing for the price and size. It is a class leader that no other OEM has matched.
Why is it an error?

4k cropped, lp e17 battery.
 
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Antono Refa

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This time we don't need a pseudo-different mount to prevent a -S lens from being put onto a regular RF mount, as the camera will crop down automatically. So I see no need to create a distinct RF-S mount, even if they do decide to create a crop RF lens.
I think customers would like to know whether they'll get the sensor's full resolution, or the camera will auto crop the image for them.
 

jam05

R5, C70
Mar 12, 2019
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Oh, it's so simple: no EVF/OVF no buy for M

Yikes, I hope that if they remove the EVF, that they only do it on the cheapest model. Viewing on a little rear screen is OK for people who just want to take snaps, but near-impossible for people shooting sports, action, wildlife or anything requiring careful composition. Heaven forbid that EVF isn't lost from any other models.
The rear screen is also used for motion picture, video etc. Composition was always using the rear glass/screen long before digital cameras came on the scene anyhow. Nothing new
 
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jam05

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The rear glass, rear screen, monitor, etc. was used long before digital cameras came on the scene. If you really want to get original about it. So don't act as if composition on the rear larger display is NEW. Exactly what are digital backs?
 

jam05

R5, C70
Mar 12, 2019
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Canon APSC lens offer was not that great. I don't know why would someone invest on Canon EFS lens? At least the 3rd party ones were better.
Majority bought EF L lens and used it on APSC body. the only advantage was crop for more reach.
So Canon will do the same, come up with some cheap RF-S lens, bundle it and try to sell tons of it. Later get people buying RF lens.

in EF-FF, you couldn't use EF-S lens to crop but You can use crop mode in R5 to achieve the same. So, there isn't much value unless you're concern about resolution