Update: The Canon EOS R3 will be officially announced on June 29th

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Btw, the era of DSLR 1 series cameras required the sacrifice of resolution to focus on speed and performance because of the state of technology at the time of their creation. That was the state of the art at that time. The best of what was possible. This is OBVIOUSLY not the case anymore. Please do not compare the two eras. Ridiculous.
I am a 1 series owner and user, I prefer 20-30mp and have no client use for more. As it is I have my work on interstate billboards and plastered all over the walls of design centers and creative spaces at huge reproduction ratios you stand next to. 20mp works fine for all of it, 30mp will give me a bit extra but I don't need it for client work of any kind. I, personally, do not want the hassle and inevitable slowdowns and storage limitations associated with larger files for all my work, it is of zero benefit to me or my clients.

I would like a high mp camera for some personal archival work I want to do but it isn't a priority and the 30mp will probably be more than sufficient anyway. If it isn't I'll pick up a secondhand 5DS for nothing and sell it when I'm done for a few dollars less.

What is ridiculous is people presuming what is good for them is good for everybody.
 
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This one really came outta left field. Do I wait for the R1.. the R5C or just get this? It’s a tough call. Probably cheaper to switch to Leica… Sure you spend $9500 for the body… and another $9k on a single lens; but you keep those bodies for life. Hence the slogan, “Leica for life”. Canon and Sony you update yearly.
Someone's forcing you to upgrade your Canon and Sony cameras?

Btw, the state of technology doesn't wait to reveal itself until Leica decides to release a camera. Haha As if.
 
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I'm not calling it anything. Canon is. : |
Look up, did you see that? It was the point flying past you.

It might not have a 1 series name, but it doesn't have a 1 series price either. Suggesting it is overpriced because, R5, does not take into account that the 1 series option available to 1 series users is $6,499 and can't take RF lenses. When an R1 comes out it will be substantially more expensive that the R3.
 
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Based on the rumors, my main issue is the mismatched card slots. I'm stunned they'd do this on a 1 series/pro type body.
You must have been stunned by every 1-series body except the 1D X and 1D X III.
 
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Nice! A new accessory shoe! That means the possibility of a wire-free microphone mounted on the shoe mount like what Sony & Panasonic are doing. Using the 3.5mm mic input is a bit messy, and the setup is fragile... the mic jack on my M50 died for some reason. The shoe mount would be more durable, less messy with no wire getting in the way of the tilt LCD. Also the AF down to -7 EV (I assume @ f/1.2) is crazy!

I sure hope some of these features trickle down eventually to cheaper sub-$2500 cameras. I can see the new accessory mount making it to the successors to the R6 & EOS R.
 
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I am a 1 series owner and user, I prefer 20-30mp and have no client use for more. As it is I have my work on interstate billboards and plastered all over the walls of design centers and creative spaces at huge reproduction ratios you stand next to. 20mp works fine for all of it, 30mp will give me a bit extra but I don't need it for client work of any kind. I, personally, do not want the hassle and inevitable slowdowns and storage limitations associated with larger files for all my work, it is of zero benefit to me or my clients.

I would like a high mp camera for some personal archival work I want to do but it isn't a priority and the 30mp will probably be more than sufficient anyway. If it isn't I'll pick up a secondhand 5DS for nothing and sell it when I'm done for a few dollars less.

What is ridiculous is people presuming what is good for them is good for everybody.

Since a high resolution sensor would work nearly as well for you as a low res sensor, but not so the other way around for someone who needs the extra resolution, I think you're the one who is being "What I want only" here. Am I wrong?

It's like being happy that only F4 lenses are being made because you will never use f2.8.

Who celebrates LACK of capabilities?
 
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Nikon ? Oh yeah I forgot about them , are they still around ?
They're still around for those of us who can't afford a $6,000..or a $3,900..or even a $2,400 FF camera.

My 2 card slot, IBIS, really good sensor Z5, that cost me $900 refurbished is serving me well so far.
 
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Since a high resolution sensor would work nearly as well for you as a low res sensor, but not so the other way around for someone who needs the extra resolution, I think you're the one who is being "What I want only" here. Am I wrong?

It's like being happy that only F4 lenses are being made because you will never use f2.8.
No , this R3 camera is very much a specialised camera made for pro sports so it's features are appropriate for this . Very high resolution only slows down the performance in every part of the work flow which is what the professionals definitely don't want , they want faster work flow to beat their competition
 
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Since a high resolution sensor would work nearly as well for you as a low res sensor, but not so the other way around for someone who needs the extra resolution, I think you're the one who is being "What I want only" here. Am I wrong?

It's like being happy that only F4 lenses are being made because you will never use f2.8.

Who celebrates LACK of capabilities?
I don't understand where you got that from, a high resolution sensor would not work for me, let alone nearly as well! I do not want and have no need for more than 30mp for 100% of my paid work at this point.
 
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No , this R3 camera is very much a specialised camera made for pro sports so it's features are appropriate for this . Very high resolution only slows down the performance in every part of the work flow which is what the professionals definitely don't want , they want faster work flow to beat their competition
Like I said, this used to be the case. It is not anymore. Stop comparing technology from 10 years ago to today please.

"I do not want 16 cores in my CPU because it does not have a threading technology that's only reason for ever existing was because the most cores we could fit in a CPU was 4." What? Hahahahahaha
 
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Based on the rumors, my main issue is the mismatched card slots. I'm stunned they'd do this on a 1 series/pro type body. Everything else is a great upgrade for me coming from the OG 1DX. I usually buy every other 1 series camera but skipped the 1DX mIII waiting for my mirrorless switch. This looks to be worthy. Of course, waiting for the release to double check rumor vs reality. :D
As a 1 series user I explained in another thread why I am happy with CFExpress and SD combination. I never shoot RAW to both cards but do have occasion to pass off jpegs to social media managers etc. For that use CFExpress is perfect for RAW and video capture, and the SD card perfect to hand over in real time with jpegs to pretty much anybody. SD cards, card readers, and card slots in tablets and notebooks are ubiquitous.

The more I see this darn R3 the more I think Canon have been watching what I am actually doing and making a camera to do that, rather than listen to the childish wishlist I'd spew if I was interviewed by a Canon product management team. The trouble I will have is getting one in stock....

P.S. I keep referring to myself as a 1 series user, I only do this to show relevance, I truly believe this camera is aimed at 1 series holdouts (of which I am one) and can't get over how relevant it is to my specific uses. We have to move away from this idea that all of us should see good in every camera release, what I find appealing and useful others will abhor, that isn't an issue as far as I can see because we have completely different uses.
 
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I don't understand where you got that from, a high resolution sensor would not work for me, let alone nearly as well! I do not want and have no need for more than 30mp for 100% of my paid work at this point.
That's like saying an f 2.8 lens that wouldn't work for you only an f4 lens would. What? Lol
 

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Like I said, this used to be the case. It is not anymore. Stop comparing technology from 10 years ago to today please
Technology is different from numbers. If people who are honest with themselves say they don't want or need more than x, who are you to say they shouldn't complain because it can be done they just have to suck it up and buy more?

People that don't want or need 8k or 45mp have an R6 why is that an issue? The R6 is current technology but doesn't have the numbers the R5 has, does that mean we shouldn't be allowed to buy it?
 
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That's like saying an f 2.8 lens that wouldn't work for you only an f4 lens would. What? Lol
No it is nothing like that at all! if I have a 10TB library why should I have to have a 20TB library instead when I have no practical use for any of that additional information.

What you are saying is we should all only be allowed to buy and shoot in 8k because it can be done, even if we have no use. for anything over 1080. What? Lol....
 
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Like I said, this used to be the case. It is not anymore. Stop comparing technology from 10 years ago to today please
But you're wrong big files :
slow down the camera - AF, fps, tracking , in camera processing , writing to the memory card , produce unnecessary heat
slow down file transfer
slow down editing
slow down file uploads
Make no useful difference to the final image for professional sports photography
 
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But you're wrong big files :
slow down the camera - AF, fps, tracking , in camera processing , writing to the memory card , produce unnecessary heat
slow down file transfer
slow down editing
slow down file uploads
Make no useful difference to the final image

It's really not that, because all of that stuff got better, cheaper and faster too. You're not going to win this one dude.

Let's be truthful here. You're arguing for lack of capability for your own personal needs and desires. Understandable, but if they're only exist one camera, is a bit selfish. Or at least very short-sighted to say the least
 
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It's really not that, because all of that stuff got better and cheaper too. You're not going to win this one dude
Well Canon obviously think this is the case which is why this professional sports camera has only 30mp and it's capable of 30fps rather than only 20fps like the R5 and it's no accident that they're the number one camera company selling more cameras than Sony and Nikon combined .
Engineering is full of compromises and to make a camera class leading in terms of speed lower resolution helps
To make a super high resolution camera then lower speeds help.
Technology has improved but physics hasn't : smaller files can be processed faster than larger files .
Try using a medium format camera for high speed action
 
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