Update: The Canon EOS R3 will be officially announced on June 29th
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Forget it bro! It will be 5999 euro’s. R1 will be 10k euro’s. Canon will always shock you with +20% on top of what is reasonable, when it comes to pricing.
Me too , and it would sell pretty well as it would be better than any other camera for wildlife especially birds so even if it's really expensive it would be worth the money to me at least (although my wife would say no way , what's wrong with the camera you've got ?)
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Yep, why not ? It would be much better than the R3 for birding so that would be great value for money
Best is to have both card types for each slots! Like in the Sony A1! This is the best!
Don't hold your breath , Canon and all the other camera companies have to make the most margin they can on all these amazing cameras which cost a fortune to develop and sell in pretty small numbers
There's technical workarounds. An 80MP camera could easily have a down-sample setting that outputs only 20MP raw for people who want that. Or forget the DNG and just use a JPG file if you're so much more about file size/speed than IQ.
For the vast majority, a cell phone is enough. MILFFs are already for unusual shooters, and R3 for very unusual shooters.
Uhh we can't really know which "gen" of stacked sensor it is unless Canon tells us. Yeah it's a Canon first, but if it is similar to the latest large Sony stacked sensors calling it "1st gen" is kinda misleading. If I had to guess then I'd say it's probably slower to read than a1 but since it has less pixels full scan time would be similar (I feel being able to match mechanical shutter is kinda important).
or gosh, maybe it's YOU who do not understand market segmentation?
If Canon is releasing two cameras, they can target each at a specific segment, as in EOS-1D and EOS-1Dx: one for the fast/lower-IQ crowd and one for the slow/higher-IQ crowd.
But if there's only one camera, then segmenting narrowly leaves a segment unserved.
The proposal is that it'd make sense to have a sock with some elastic in it, that's one-size-fits-all. You're arguing we should instead have socks that only fit one specific foot size, and gosh, it just happens to be YOUR FOOT that you propose as the size it should fit.
Canon obviously wouldn't purposefully leave half the high-end shooters unserved were it avoidable, and limiting a body's appeal via a "market segmentation" strategy would be doing so purposefully if you couldn't afford to cater to all segments. Clearly they'd offer a slow/higher-IQ model if they could afford two models at once, and thus serve both high-end market segments. Failing that, they'd offer a single body useable by both market segments if they could engineer it to be affordable. (EG, an 80MP camera that could produce 20MP raw files if you wanted, thus giving low-IQ shooters a fast workflow while giving high-IQ shooters their MP.) Since they're not doing that, we have to conclude it'd cost too much. Which leaves Canon ignoring half the high-end shooters, but due to technical limitations, not due to some marketing strategy.
Technology, AND physics (!!, where do you get this shit) would trivially allow a high MP camera to produce a low MP file. For instance cutting height and width by half doesn't even require multiplies or divides, just addition and a bit shift. What law of physics would that break, exactly?
The reason not to do it isn't that technology or physics prevents Canon from doing so, but for business/economics/manufacturing reasons. (EG, since Canon is just starting to make backside sensors they're starting with 30MP not 120MP as a learning curve. Or they could do 120MP but it would be too expensive for the fast/low-IQ shooters. Or would take too long time to market.)
Yeah, I had to block some morons here who claim that the EF-mount bodies and lenses are still for sale therefore they're not obsolete. Since when has a viable camera line not had a single new product for three years straight, while another camera line by the same manufacturer has had five bodies and a dozen lenses?
In many ways even the R beat the 1Dx3, even. Much less the R3.
The ISO range is kind of tricky, since any digital camera could have ISO settings of the millions or billions and produce SOME kind of image, even if noisy one-bit DR. What I'd really like is a graph of the dynamic range per ISO.
Do you know why they sell in small numbers? Because Sony has made a mirrorless 50mp camera years ago.
Yeah , and do you use the same computer the Netflix feature film editors use for your processing ? LOL
It makes me think that development was underway before the Nikon Z9 announcement so 8K may have never been considered.
If R5c is under development then it makes sense to not consider 8K for the R3 at all.
I have no doubt that the R1 is under development but products in early testing usually have code names.
People who were testing the R3 could have thought they were testing the R1 and some of the rumors may have gotten crossed.
The best-selling ILC in Japan last month (and the month before) was the EOS 250D / SL3, a DSLR that launched 2 years ago. Is everyone buying all those obsolete cameras a moron? Of course not. But then, who is? Yeah.
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