Update: The Canon EOS R3 will be officially announced on June 29th

[FrenchFry]

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If the official launch is in 3 days, I am puzzled that there is still no countdown or information about it on the Canon websites. For the R5 it seemed like there were all sorts of events planned to hype it up. If you want your launch to grab headlines, wouldn't you let everyone know there is a launch in the first place?

 

[koenkooi]

There's technical workarounds. An 80MP camera could easily have a down-sample setting that outputs only 20MP raw for people who want that. Or forget the DNG and just use a JPG file if you're so much more about file size/speed than IQ.

If it’s downsampled it isn’t RAW anymore, per definition.

 

[koenkooi]

Only if you want to record lower bit rate high-res video. Canon's 8K raw is ~2600MB/s firehose and only CFe Type B can handle that. Canon's lowest 8K bit rate after the latest firmware is 8K UHD IPB light @ 340MB/s.
Sony's 8K recording speed is ~400MB/s
Can you tell the difference? That is the real question and if not then Canon has over specified their bus/card system and created the overheating issues that were pounced on by detractors.

I think you’re mixing up B(ytes) and b(its) in the above. The fastest CFe B cards top out at 1500MBytes/s writes currently.

 

[Finn]

If the official launch is in 3 days, I am puzzled that there is still no countdown or information about it on the Canon websites. For the R5 it seemed like there were all sorts of events planned to hype it up. If you want your launch to grab headlines, wouldn't you let everyone know there is a launch in the first place?

My guess…it’s the official unveiling with a vague “available at end of 2021”. Everybody is having a hard time getting anything with silicon out.

 

[Bahrd]

30.1mp backside illuminated image sensor (A Canon first)

Is this resolution already written in silicon?

 

[VegasCameraGuy]

Well the 30.1 mp just saved me $6,000 bucks. I'm sticking with my R5 until maybe the R1? My other kidney feels better already.

 

[privatebydesign]

Gosh, why wouldn't it work for you???

Because the size of the files limits the speed and efficiency of my turnaround, storage and processing, and while all of those can be increased they can’t be increased at no cost. Which means my costs go up and my price has to go up, which is bad for business.


What is so hard to understand about the concept that more is not necessarily an advantage and for some it is a disadvantage? If I shot video and needed 4K I wouldn’t need an 8k camera, what is so different?

 

[neuroanatomist]

If I shot video and needed 4K I wouldn’t need an 8k camera, what is so different?

But you could just downsample it…

 

[Aregal]

Based on the rumors, my main issue is the mismatched card slots. I'm stunned they'd do this on a 1 series/pro type body. Everything else is a great upgrade for me coming from the OG 1DX. I usually buy every other 1 series camera but skipped the 1DX mIII waiting for my mirrorless switch. This looks to be worthy. Of course, waiting for the release to double check rumor vs reality.

To my knowledge Canon said that this is not a 1D-level camera. Also, the 1Dxii has mismatched card slots when launched between the 1Dx and 1Dxiii (1MarkIV also had mismatched card slots). Personally, I’m waiting for the R1.

 

[Pixel]

It’s NOT a flagship camera. I suggest you guys keep your expectations tempered somewhat.

 

[RayValdez360]

As a 1 series user I explained in another thread why I am happy with CFExpress and SD combination. I never shoot RAW to both cards but do have occasion to pass off jpegs to social media managers etc. For that use CFExpress is perfect for RAW and video capture, and the SD card perfect to hand over in real time with jpegs to pretty much anybody. SD cards, card readers, and card slots in tablets and notebooks are ubiquitous.

The more I see this darn R3 the more I think Canon have been watching what I am actually doing and making a camera to do that, rather than listen to the childish wishlist I'd spew if I was interviewed by a Canon product management team. The trouble I will have is getting one in stock....

P.S. I keep referring to myself as a 1 series user, I only do this to show relevance, I truly believe this camera is aimed at 1 series holdouts (of which I am one) and can't get over how relevant it is to my specific uses. We have to move away from this idea that all of us should see good in every camera release, what I find appealing and useful others will abhor, that isn't an issue as far as I can see because we have completely different uses.

If the official launch is in 3 days, I am puzzled that there is still no countdown or information about it on the Canon websites. For the R5 it seemed like there were all sorts of events planned to hype it up. If you want your launch to grab headlines, wouldn't you let everyone know there is a launch in the first place?

this camera is nowhere as big of a deal as the R5 though. R5 was like the first "real" mirrorless and had 8K raw and a high MP. 30mp and 30fps and all the little tech stuff isn't that important or sounds that appealing to most consumers.

 

[neuroanatomist]

30mp and 30fps and all the little tech stuff isn't that important or sounds that appealing to most consumers ME.

Fixed that for you.

Why do people insist on thinking their personal wants represent the broader market? #hubris

What the data show is that most consumers (of ILCs) will not pay more than $1000 for a camera + lens(es) kit, and that most consumers do not buy FF ILCs. Therefore, the entire EOS R line is not that important or appealing to most consumers.

 

[usern4cr]

Yeah I expect it to be sold out, I also don't expect that many units avail due to chip shortages but doesn't change my mind set on it. I will preorder one anyway because I want to play with the eye af, unless its some magical sauce I will just sell it off after a month and have played with it as a free rental.

How do you get to use it for a month as a "free rental"?

 

[privatebydesign]

this camera is nowhere as big of a deal as the R5 though. R5 was like the first "real" mirrorless and had 8K raw and a high MP. 30mp and 30fps and all the little tech stuff isn't that important or sounds that appealing to most consumers.

For the general to advanced FF MILC market you might be right, for the market segment the R3 is aimed at it is way bigger.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

How do you get to use it for a month as a "free rental"?

I think lethiferous means buying it outright, using it for a month, and then returning it for a full refund while it is still within the refund period. Renting a camera soley for evaluation purposes does not really make a lot of sense in regions that have these return policies.

 

[FrenchFry]

How do you get to use it for a month as a "free rental"?

If they are in very short supply with months-long waiting lists, there could be demand for a like new one at full retail price.

 

[Ozarker]

I dont think R5 price point is proper but def not 6k. I have an a1 (sony bodies are cheap moment they've been out a month. I paid less than 6 for mine open box condition) there's much to be desired on that body in terms of physical things but other than that it is fantastic. I am more excited about a R1 then this, I don't really care for the 8k video on the R5 (only used it once when I got the body) looking at these specs, thinking about body. 5300 is probably the most I'd pay for it. I mean why do we no thave dual CF express on this thing? Seems like the canon cripple hammer is showing a bit, if this is to be at 6k.

"Crippled"/"cripple hammer" ought to ought to be banned just like the D word now is. Irritating as F$%@

 

[Ozarker]

I am a 1 series owner and user, I prefer 20-30mp and have no client use for more. As it is I have my work on interstate billboards and plastered all over the walls of design centers and creative spaces at huge reproduction ratios you stand next to. 20mp works fine for all of it, 30mp will give me a bit extra but I don't need it for client work of any kind. I, personally, do not want the hassle and inevitable slowdowns and storage limitations associated with larger files for all my work, it is of zero benefit to me or my clients.

I would like a high mp camera for some personal archival work I want to do but it isn't a priority and the 30mp will probably be more than sufficient anyway. If it isn't I'll pick up a secondhand 5DS for nothing and sell it when I'm done for a few dollars less.

What is ridiculous is people presuming what is good for them is good for everybody.

So are you the guy who does the "We bare all" billboards along I-75?

 

[UpstateNYPhotog]

I know no one camera can be ‘the one’ for everybody, but if the R3 is close to 30mp it hits the sweetest spot for me personaly.

Yes. 45 MP seems like overkill. I've never had a client complain about a 20 MP 1Dx II file, but I love being able to crop a 30 MP 5D IV file and still be well over 20. If they'd have just put some decent external controls on the R, it would have been just fine.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

"Crippled"/"cripple hammer" ought to ought to be banned just like the D word now is. Irritating as F$%@

I agree with banning "cripple hammer" but banning "crippled" could be a problem out of context.