Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

[Deleted member 378664]

They can afford one camera.

But they can't do any Facebook, Whats App and other social media things with the camera and they even can't call their friends, so if they can't afford a camera without 4k they can't afford a camera with 4k either. They should probably better stick to their phone (jack of all trades).

Frank

 

[cerealito]

The 6D is a stills camera with a bit of video, but mainly stills. If you want video then go and buy the 5DMk4 or the C300.

... these people are comparing apples and pears when they expect fully functioning 4k in a DSLR which is build for stills as main purpose. These DSLR are only happen to have a video record button accidentally.

I hope we can expect no AA filter then!
After all, it would be stupid to degrade IQ of the stills (the raison-d'être of this camera), only to correct the occasional moiré in 1080p videos that no one should be taking with this camera anyways 8)

 

[AA]

No 4K is a real issue here. This will be a camera with an AF system that will make shooting video easy. A first for the 6D line. I've never used my 6D for videos as it was manual focus and only 30 frames per second in 1080p. I sued my Sony RX100 II for video instead. If the 6D II has proper live view AF, I WILL want to sue it for video. 1080p is unacceptable. It is intentionally dumbing down the camera. There is no reason not to include 4K here other than Canon's desire to charge more for 4K. That is so stupid. They are not competing with the their cinema line here. They are competing with Sony / Panasonic / cell phone camera! There is a reason why the camera market is shrinking. Cell phone makers make it easy for us to create 4K content. CaNikon does not. They are getting what they deserve.

 

[K]

Here we go again and again. I keep hearing the term "entry level" ...

Sure, it might be Canon's FF entry point --

BUT.....

It's going to be $2,000. Again, repeat that, $2,000 and no 4K, not even 4K in name only to partially pacify some. $2,000 and highly unlikely to have data redundancy of 2 lousy SD card slots. $2,000 and mid-2017...using a rehashed AF grid from many years ago.

Canon is extremely stingy in this price bracket for FF.

 

[AA]

Not having 4K is outrageous. No, I do not want to take a C300 with me when I go on vacation. Even if i could afford two cameras. I only want to take one! One can do it all. Sonys can. And Sony also has a professional video camera line "to protect".

If Canon doesn't give us proper video just to "protect" their pro video line (that came about by accident!!!), then it's time to switch to Sony. Canon will never give us proper video in their still cameras. They have never had. And it is obviously intentional. They never will. Wanna go on vacation and shoot both stills and video? Check and log around a huge extra body so Canon can make more money. Or switch to Sony and travel light / don't break your back.

Pathetic Canon, pathetic!

 

[smr]

45 focus points, new sensor at 26mp now just need 6fps and i'll buy. Dont understand the 4k moaning... if video is so inportant why not just buy a good 4k camcorder? As i will be doing stills photography and a lot of landscape with some wildlife this looks like a great upgrade for me from a 700D.

 

[wildwalker]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. If every person will shoot 4k with entry level cameras where is the evidence? There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

How many entry level FF buyers are going to have A. a 4k or higher display and B. A machine fast enough to edit the footage. Affordable 4k displays have only been available for about 12 months.

Its a small percentage.

January 2017 screen resolution statistics show that 1366x768 which accounts for 35% of consumers.

In second place is 1920x1080 with 17%, 1440x900 6%, 2560x1440 1%

Higher resolutions account for 6%.

This is probably the reason Canon has decided against 4k its just not popular enough in the target audience. The majority of people have 1080 displays. This camera isn't aimed toward pro video shooters its aimed at enthusiast photographers.

I do a reasonable amount of 4K video work. I don't have a 4K monitor, you don't 'need' one because you don't need to see the pixels 1:1 to work on video, especially if you are just top and tailing them with a still (ala youtube).

I do watch them on a 4K TV though.

It's a mute point for me as I want my stills camera to excel at stills. Canon made a big deal about video with the launch of the 5DMk2, then started the C range of cameras and started to talk less about DSLR video. The 5DMk4 shows that Canon are not serious about video in DSLR.

If the lack of 4K keeps the price of the 6DMk2 down, then it is a good thing. I would rather have the features that matter (and we don't know yet if it does) but rather than UHD I would like to see 45 AF Crosspoint focus points, DPAF, improved DR and better noise handling. This is what a DSLR is for. Video feels like it always has just been an addon that the marketing people wanted, while the quality of video from my DSLR is great, the implementation is poor, nowhere near as thought out as the stills controls.

Alan.

 

[Bernard]

In my experience, cheap 4K is worse than no 4K.

The only 4K you're going to get on an SD card is low-bitrate mush.
Canon is not a company to advertise a feature that can not be used (unlike some competitors).

The alternative is to send video out to an external recorder, but then you are spending an extra $2000 in accessories.

 

[NaviUy]

Okay. I know that 4k is not necessary, but honestly I'm pretty disappointed that the 6dmkii wont have it.

I'm a hybrid shooter. I'm not a professional but I do consider myself a hobbyist. Being that I'm currently a college student, its hard to get the money to get 2 cameras. Besides carrying 2 cameras around is a drag. And I get it! Sony is an option, but they just aren't on par with the quality of canons. I heard horror stories of Sony's corrosion issues. Don't even get me started about lens selection.

I like shooting my travel, adventure, and car videos. I like shooting with handheld gimbals. Recording in 4k, then down scaling the footage to 1080 would give me so much room to work with.

So why don't I get a 5dmk4?

This is just not compatible with what I do. Its too heavy and bulky. You could literally murder somebody with a 5dmk4. Another factor is price. I'm a broke college student. The 5dmk4 is $3.3k for the body alone. ~2k body is much easier to swallow.

I think the moral of the story is that I was hoping for the perfect hybrid/all-rounder camera. What's disappointing was that canon got so close. 4k would have been amazing to work with. They didn't even give us 1080 120p. Brought this up multiple times, but I'm a broke college student. A camera is an investment for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for resale value. I looking for feature longevity. There's not going to be another iteration of the 6dmk for a long while. I just don't want to wait that long.

I get it, right now its not necessary. But think about this for a second. 4k accessibility is just around the corner in my opinion.

Okay, that's just me. A single person... an anomaly right? However, I don't think I'm an anomaly. I think college students are the perfect target demographic for entry level FF DSLRS. While you older folks can afford to buy multiple cameras, us yougins can barely afford the 6dmkii.

Yeahhhh but... what about the other broke college students who aren't hybrid shooters? Why do they care about 4k?

Well, I think majority of the people my age are hobbyist. Just because they are photo shooters doesn't mean they don't want 4k. Video projects for example are becoming more popular and many college students have perfectionist personalities. 4k would just make it... better. Personally, I'm currently staffing in a school club. I enjoy taking video and pictures of my club activities.

Another argument to bring up is...

Whats better 4k or 1080? Obviously 4k. So why would you want less. Why would you argue that 1080 is good enough. Nothing is ever enough. The time when someone believes its enough is when innovation stops.


Anyway, just my personal rant. I'm ready now... flame me ;D

 

[wildwalker]

No 4K is a real issue here. This will be a camera with an AF system that will make shooting video easy. A first for the 6D line. I've never used my 6D for videos as it was manual focus and only 30 frames per second in 1080p. I sued my Sony RX100 II for video instead. If the 6D II has proper live view AF, I WILL want to sue it for video. 1080p is unacceptable. It is intentionally dumbing down the camera. There is no reason not to include 4K here other than Canon's desire to charge more for 4K. That is so stupid. They are not competing with the their cinema line here. They are competing with Sony / Panasonic / cell phone camera! There is a reason why the camera market is shrinking. Cell phone makers make it easy for us to create 4K content. CaNikon does not. They are getting what they deserve.

You said that 30 frames a second on the 6D for HD was unacceptable. The 5DMk4 only does 30fps in UHD, and that is way more unacceptable. So why complain about no UHD when it would, in your eyes, be unacceptable anyway?

 

[reef58]

I guess you made their decision for them. I am an older guy but don't discount the content being produced by the social media wizards. I was mainly speaking to someone who may be a fine arts major, or a serious budding artist. They have to choose one camera why choose one in this day and age without 4k?

They can afford one camera.

But they can't do any Facebook, Whats App and other social media things with the camera and they even can't call their friends, so if they can't afford a camera without 4k they can't afford a camera with 4k either. They should probably better stick to their phone (jack of all trades).

Frank

 

[K]

The 5dmk4 is $3.3k for the body alone. That's my tuition for a semester. ~2k body is much easier to swallow.

Canon is pay to play bud. Sorry.

Look to competitors who offer what you need. They are in your price range, and don't buy into the exaggerated hype about Canon superiority. Yes, Canon is in my opinion the the best - but they're not that much better.

 

[Loswr]

I think college students are the perfect target demographic for entry level FF DSLRS.

Lol...yeah, all those 'broke college students' who's mommy and daddy are paying their Ivy League tuition.

 

[NaviUy]

The 5dmk4 is $3.3k for the body alone. That's my tuition for a semester. ~2k body is much easier to swallow.

Canon is pay to play bud. Sorry.

Look to competitors who offer what you need. They are in your price range, and don't buy into the exaggerated hype about Canon superiority. Yes, Canon is in my opinion the the best - but they're not that much better.

I hate that your right. But even disregarding the price, there is still so much benefits in having 4k in the 6d.

 

[JMKE]

Finally its coming. Its gaining a bit in size. I was hoping it would be a bit lighter with th use of different material. (The D750 seems pretty lightweight as well).

Anyone knows if its gonna use the same battery's?

 

[Etienne]

The absence of 4K is a strong signal that Canon wants to discourage videographers from using their non-Cinema cameras. This means that I won't trust even the quality of the 1080p that the 6D2 can produce until I see a full review of this camera. The 1080p might be soft, full of moire and aliasing, or have high rolling shutter, among other problems.

The 6D2 will not be a pre-order for me. I'll have to wait for full reviews.

 

[NaviUy]

I think college students are the perfect target demographic for entry level FF DSLRS.

Lol...yeah, all those 'broke college students' who's mommy and daddy are paying their Ivy League tuition.

I mean... I'm not going to a Ivy League, but my parents sure as hell ain't buying me a camera ;D.

Neither are a lot of my friends. Many of my friends are on a nonprofit organizations media team. A lot of them are currently shooting on 6d and rent cameras when they actually need to do video shoots. I believe 4k on 6d would eliminate the need to pay ~$100+ in rentals.

 

[cnc]

Right ON.

 

[much]

No 4k.... Ummm thank you Canon I was waiting for this... Now i'm considering panasonic or sony

happy 6d owner

 

[Don Haines]

Finally its coming. Its gaining a bit in size. I was hoping it would be a bit lighter with th use of different material. (The D750 seems pretty lightweight as well).

Anyone knows if its gonna use the same battery's?

They have been using the same battery (LPE-6) for ages and it is the battery for everything bigger than a rebel (except the 1 series)... I really can not see them changing it....

As to the slight jump in size, why? The electronics will have shrunk and with the newer (finer) fabrication technologies it should consume less power.... The first thing that "pops up" to mind is a built in flash.... but it could also be more space for a bigger AF sensor or for more heat handling ability (4K?)....

It will be interesting to see what actually happens....