Now we see through a glass, darkly...
- Apr 5, 2016
The EVF shows you what the sensor sees. The OVF doesn't.
Maybe because it is a lot cheaper compared to Cine lines?
That was easier for many folks when Canon held the line on price for the full length of most camera's time in the catalog. It meant they could use a camera for a couple of years and sell it when they wanted a newer model without taking a bath. Now that Canon has seemed to have adopted Sony's strategy of lowering the price of older models and leaving them in the catalog longer, that is not so much the case. Try selling a lightly used 5D Mark IV today for anywhere near what it cost you new in 2016-17!
The 20MP sensor of the 7D Mark II has the same pixel density as a 50MP FF sensor, though. That's denser than both the 5D Mark IV and the EOS R.
But what the sensor sees and what the final image looks like aren't necessarily the same thing. For anyone who shoots raw and post-processes expertly to account for the unique properties of a specific scene, WYSIWYG is not that true.
It is listed as "closeout" at Adorama. But, Adorama no longer carries the EF 200mm f/2.8 either and B&H apparently has some. So maybe it is just Adorama choosing not to sell it anymore.I was under the impression Canon officially discontinued the EF 400mm f/5.6 a while back.
It is still listed at Canon USA's website, though it has been showing as out of stock there for forever.
Good points. I suppose if both Canon and Nikon were to quit developing DSLRs that would leave users with little choice. But, they would still have to weigh their ability to get customers to migrate vs. losing customers who simply choose not to buy into the mirrorless market.On the other hand, who is making an EF mount camera like what the 5D Mark V would be that can steal customers away from Canon if they don't produce a 5D Mark V? Most users who want a 5D Mark V will eventually "settle" for an R5. A lot really depends upon how good the improved EVF is for shooting sports/action.
How can a sensor that only reads out at 60fps do full sensor width video at 120fps?
Or how can a mechanical shutter with curtain transit times in the neighborhood of 2.5 milliseconds (the 1D X Mark II, 1D X, and 7D Mark II all have curtain transit times of around 2.5-2.7ms) be that much better than a sensor that can read out at, say, 240fps? (1/400 = 2.5ms, 1/240 = 4.17ms)
Yes, there will be more rolling shutter effect at 20fps with the e-shutter. But it will not be anywhere near as bad as a sensor that can only read out 60fps. (1/60 = 16.67ms, 1/120 = 8.33ms)
Alms for the poor! Alms for the poor! (Alms = FF EOS R in this instance)My 5D4 is cherry. I mean, really. I baby my gear as it is but I’m not exaggerating when I say there isn’t a mark on it. Anywhere. Shutter actuations are low because I have a truckload of cameras bodies and they all get used.
When I began R5 and possible 100-500L shopping I thought of selling my 7D2, 5D4, and maybe even my EOS-R to offset the hit. I don’t need to, I will just have to get a bigger shelf. But in the process of feeling it out I discovered there is no real market for these bodies unless you want to give them away. I think Adorama wanted to give $1000 for a ‘best case’ EOS-R.
No thanks. I’ll keep all my bodies and use them for decoration before I let them go for that kind of money. That’s why I still have every body I’ve ever bought. Every lens too - even the really horrible ones hahaha...
I mean, what kind of idiot owns a 70-300 AND a 75-300 hmmm? It gets worse, oh yes.
This is the first I've heard of CPW (thanks for the post). But how are they able to sell unopened-new-in-the-box RF lenses with 1yr US(I assume) warranties at such discounted prices when all the places I've seen have to stick to MSRP? I'd be glad to take advantage of these lens deals, but what is the risk? (FYI - I'm in Kentucky)Canon Price Watch, they are a way that genuine Canon dealers can somewhat circumvent Canon's minimum advertised price policy. They are 100% legitimate I have bought $10,000's of gear via them, indeed I won't buy any Canon gear without getting a quote from them first. Gordon is super fast with his follow up emails and accurate and professional, can't recommend them highly enough.
No risk. CPW doesn't sell anything. He acts as a middleman for Canon dealers who are willing to offer discounted prices.This is the first I've heard of CPW (thanks for the post). But how are they able to sell unopened-new-in-the-box RF lenses with 1yr US(I assume) warranties at such discounted prices when all the places I've seen have to stick to MSRP? I'd be glad to take advantage of these lens deals, but what is the risk? (FYI - I'm in Kentucky)
As unfocused says CPW don’t actually sell anything, they merely put an authorized Canon dealer and you in touch with each other via email, you buy the item direct from the brick and mortar Canon dealer.This is the first I've heard of CPW (thanks for the post). But how are they able to sell unopened-new-in-the-box RF lenses with 1yr US(I assume) warranties at such discounted prices when all the places I've seen have to stick to MSRP? I'd be glad to take advantage of these lens deals, but what is the risk? (FYI - I'm in Kentucky)
Getting back to the original subject "What's Next from Canon."
2021 will be the year of the DSLR.
Same sensor as R5;
Smart Controller from 1DX III
Same card configuration as R5
First ever IBIS in a Canon DSLR
12 fps mechanical shutter
Autofocus with animal eye detect
Canon shocks everyone by offering a new 7D model
90 D sensor but with improved low pass filter similar to the 1DxIII
Same card configuration as R5
14 fps mechanical shutter
Autofocus with animal eye detect
Uncertain at this time if the 7DIII will be have an integrated grip and use the 1DxIII battery.
New EF-CR lenses
Canon introduces the following as the first three in their new series of EF-CR lens series:
24-105 F4 IS;
70-200 F2.8 IS
Lenses are basically identical to existing EF lenses with the addition of a programmable control ring that offers the same customization options as the RF lens series. The 5DV and 7DIII come from the factory with the ability to use the new Control Ring lenses. The 1DX III is updated via a firmware upgrade. Canon announces they will be offering new Control Ring versions of many of their EF lenses over the next few years.
Fun to dream. Nothing here would be impossible or even difficult for Canon to do. But, it would cause many heads to explode.
Out of curiosity, higher in absolute numbers, or in cameras sold per X persons?
Higher price per unit doesn't sound all that surprising to me. Price of electronics has dropped, but there's so much more of it in a modern camera.
The mirror already is translucent. The AF module sits below the mirror box and there is second mirror behind the main one. Question just is can DPAF work with that amount of light.
Good points. I suppose if both Canon and Nikon were to quit developing DSLRs that would leave users with little choice. But, they would still have to weigh their ability to get customers to migrate vs. losing customers who simply choose not to buy into the mirrorless market.
Would DSLR users, who skew older, simply hang on to their existing bodies or drop photography as a hobby altogether? I'm in my mid-sixties. I'm good for probably another generation of professional level cameras, but after I retire in a couple of years, and quit doing any professional photography, I don't know what choices I will make; and I'm a serious GAS addict.
Certainly there would be some potential 5DV buyers who, if they don't have that option, choose instead to keep their money in their wallet or spend it in other ways.
Of course, you are correct in that a lot depends on how good the improved EVF is, but I'm not sure that is the only factor. I come down squarely on the side of Canon wanting to hedge their bets. Especially because the roadmap is pretty clear and the marginal improvements likely to show up in a 5DV already exist in other models, so the incremental costs may not be that high. Only time will tell if I'm right or wrong.
And there's more to the e-shutter than speed; Anyone who's clicked away on a DLSR at a quiet event only to receive glares from people over the noise will appreciate it.
On the technical stuff, keep in mind all these read modes have different reading/binning/bit depths. The 4K120 is not reading 45mp x 14 bit x 120fps, for instance: It's going to be a binned 10 bit read. The 8K raw (35mp DCI crop x 12 bit x 30) is probably right at the limit for this bad boy.
Edit: Related if anyone has seen an example of a full list of video and stills modes, with bitrates and sampling techniques, I'd love to see it. DPReview came close but was missing bitrates and stills modes. I expect there are a whole boatloads of asterisks. Will probably need to wait for the white paper or manual.