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IMO, with the exception of raw flat panels and dumb-as-dirt monitors/TVs, the day Samsung builds a truly great product is the day cows learn how to create lift, take to the skies, and crap on the pigeons. I'm sorry to say that, but I've used a fair amount of their gear. They invariably have serious firmware bugs that they never bother to fix, even though they regularly introduce new bugs in their updates.
And usually large chunks of the functionality barely works (if it works at all). Yet they still ship those features and advertise them even though they barely work. And then they take those features away silently in a firmware update. And then after they've thoroughly broken things, they stop updating the firmware.
I can't imagine Samsung being serious enough about backwards compatibility to be relevant. They'd have to actually keep making firmware that works with hardware that was released more than six months ago, which from what I've seen isn't the Samsung way.
And don't get me started about that abortion of a color laser printer that I got a demo print from at MacWorld a few years back. The color was so mottled and splotchy that I couldn't believe it was even on the market. It even made HP's horrible, banded crap look good by comparison, and that's coming from someone who hates HP printers with a passion....
I suppose Samsung is a step above junk, but if the best I can say about your gear is that it doesn't release the magic smoke, that's not saying much. I'd put the odds of a Samsung camera "stealing the show" at slightly worse than the odds of me winning the lottery.
And usually large chunks of the functionality barely works (if it works at all). Yet they still ship those features and advertise them even though they barely work. And then they take those features away silently in a firmware update. And then after they've thoroughly broken things, they stop updating the firmware.
I can't imagine Samsung being serious enough about backwards compatibility to be relevant. They'd have to actually keep making firmware that works with hardware that was released more than six months ago, which from what I've seen isn't the Samsung way.
And don't get me started about that abortion of a color laser printer that I got a demo print from at MacWorld a few years back. The color was so mottled and splotchy that I couldn't believe it was even on the market. It even made HP's horrible, banded crap look good by comparison, and that's coming from someone who hates HP printers with a passion....
I suppose Samsung is a step above junk, but if the best I can say about your gear is that it doesn't release the magic smoke, that's not saying much. I'd put the odds of a Samsung camera "stealing the show" at slightly worse than the odds of me winning the lottery.
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PicaPica said:but i dislike HP stuff more then samsung stuff.... because of my personal experience.
It's a tough call. Really, it is. I used to use an HP LaserJet 8500-series laser printer, and it had a firmware bug where if you tried to print two-sided on 11"x17" paper, you had to print a single sheet per print job, because if you tried to send two sheets in a row, it pulled in the second piece of paper before the first one was out of the way and jammed. Every. Freaking. Time.
And it wasn't just one printer. We had two of them, both in the same series, one of which was a couple of years newer. Both exhibited the same bug. So in the two or three years between when they bought the first one and when they bought the second one, not one single person at HP tested duplex printing on more than one 11"x17" piece of paper in a row. :-\
So yeah, there's no love lost between me and HP hardware.
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I had a HP photosmart back in the day that I liked, until a new version of windows came out. They would not update the drivers. So my fairly expensive printer was now a brick. I will never buy HP products again.
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Friend of mine loves his Samsung mirrorless... ???
OTOH, way back, I got a Samsung mono laser printer cuz the HP model spewed sh*tty software all over my OS.
The Samsung one had a minor bug when printing PDFs from classic mac OS, but not OS X. (x or y was slightly off scale so a 4x4 inch square would be something like 4 x 3.7)
I emailed them with a full description of the bug... I got a fixed driver emailed back to me in less than 2 days!
It's been working ever since.
now the HP did have a better print quality.. but the Sammy software was much better, especially after it was fixed.
Don't know if they have service like that now...
OTOH, way back, I got a Samsung mono laser printer cuz the HP model spewed sh*tty software all over my OS.
The Samsung one had a minor bug when printing PDFs from classic mac OS, but not OS X. (x or y was slightly off scale so a 4x4 inch square would be something like 4 x 3.7)
I emailed them with a full description of the bug... I got a fixed driver emailed back to me in less than 2 days!
It's been working ever since.
now the HP did have a better print quality.. but the Sammy software was much better, especially after it was fixed.
Don't know if they have service like that now...
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dgatwood said:PicaPica said:but i dislike HP stuff more then samsung stuff.... because of my personal experience.
It's a tough call. Really, it is. I used to use an HP LaserJet 8500-series laser printer, and it had a firmware bug where if you tried to print two-sided on 11"x17" paper, you had to print a single sheet per print job, because if you tried to send two sheets in a row, it pulled in the second piece of paper before the first one was out of the way and jammed. Every. Freaking. Time.
And it wasn't just one printer. We had two of them, both in the same series, one of which was a couple of years newer. Both exhibited the same bug. So in the two or three years between when they bought the first one and when they bought the second one, not one single person at HP tested duplex printing on more than one 11"x17" piece of paper in a row. :-\
So yeah, there's no love lost between me and HP hardware.
That's where I am right now. I have a Photosmart which is starting to not work even with the same OS it was intended for. One day after it auto-updated its software, it decided, "I'm not going to do jack ____ anymore, try as you might."
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I bought the little NX1000 w/20-50mm kit lens for $199 and then later the 30mm f/2 pancake.
That little body with the 30mm f/2 takes some incredible shots. I was temped to add "for it's size" but realized that no qualifier to that statement was needed. It fits in a large pocket. Even the built in B&W JPG profile is great. Only complaint is it's very slow between shots. I'm sure the newer bodies are faster.
That little body with the 30mm f/2 takes some incredible shots. I was temped to add "for it's size" but realized that no qualifier to that statement was needed. It fits in a large pocket. Even the built in B&W JPG profile is great. Only complaint is it's very slow between shots. I'm sure the newer bodies are faster.
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Yes, but what fun is that?rpt said:Sometimes the <sarcasm/> tag helpsmackguyver said:Oh, that one. Didn't realize it was happeningPicaPica said:
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Guys, guys,
Don't let the negativism of other threads here going on in this thread. Hp and Samsung both are very respectable companies and have very qualitative products. However, not every product is a topper, which is also not the case for Canon products. I have much more excellent product references of hp and Samsung then the impression that's created over here.
Don't let the negativism of other threads here going on in this thread. Hp and Samsung both are very respectable companies and have very qualitative products. However, not every product is a topper, which is also not the case for Canon products. I have much more excellent product references of hp and Samsung then the impression that's created over here.
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