Patent: Canon RF 200mm f/2L IS USM and other Big White Lenses

fiendstudios · Mar 12, 2021

I owned the previous version, the EF 200/2L IS. Sold it since I did not use it that often. Haven't had any regrets yet

dolina · Mar 12, 2021

I have my 200 and 800. Wish I never bought either. Most of the Philippine-based bird watchers I met through photography with these lens are trash.

"Environmentalists" would only steal your photos for their "fundraising" and "awareness campaigns". Paying you in crediting you as the photographer without any sort of compensation.

Other times when I am unlucky they edit out my watermark and present it as works of their own.

The really loonie ones will impose their "ethics" on you that you never signed up for. I never joined you happy lil club because I know its reputation years prior.

They'll never speak up that the real reason the habitat is in decline because they're silent with how prolific they are in baby making.

If I instead used the money of those 2 lenses to buy mining shares in PSE:NIKL at ₱1.51/share in Dec 2010 and sold ₱8.97/share in Jan 2015 I'd have made ₱5.3m and avoided people looking for a handout.

Now if I used all the money I spent on camera gear + birding trips on PSE:NIKL at the above buying and selling price I would have made ₱70m.

Besisika · Mar 12, 2021

fiendstudios said:
I owned the previous version, the EF 200/2L IS. Sold it since I did not use it that often. Haven't had any regrets yet

Tue, I use it very, very, rarely that I cannot justify the price. Still, it is my dream lens. Cannot afford it. I rent it once or twice a year for very special occasions. It would be nice to have the RF version available for rent in my city someday.

chasingrealness · Mar 12, 2021

I respect the hustle.

neurorx · Mar 12, 2021

Still hoping for the 135 1.4L

unfocused · Mar 12, 2021

fiendstudios said:
I owned the previous version, the EF 200/2L IS. Sold it since I did not use it that often. Haven't had any regrets yet

I don't get this lens. Too heavy, too short, too little depth of field, too big, and too expensive. I'm sure others love it, but I can't see any situation where I would want this lens.

Maximilian · Mar 12, 2021

unfocused said:
I don't get this lens. Too heavy, too short, too little depth of field, too big, and too expensive. ...

Same here.
But it seems with R/RF system Canon sees the chance to dig for really big nuggets.
As long as their market research gives them a go...

Maximilian · Mar 12, 2021

dolina said:
...
"Environmentalists" would only steal your photos for their "fundraising" and "awareness campaigns". Paying you in crediting you as the photographer without any sort of compensation.
...

Surely unterstand your anger. And people should ask in first and pay in second for copyrights if not given for free.
But a little bit OT, isn't it?

VivaLasVegas · Mar 12, 2021

unfocused said:
I don't get this lens. Too heavy, too short, too little depth of field, too big, and too expensive. I'm sure others love it, but I can't see any situation where I would want this lens.

Photographers buying this particular glass can replace multiple lens by using teleconverters 1.4X or 2X, saving them space and $$$.

200f2 x 1.4 = 280 f2.8
200f2 x 1.4 = 400 f4

So

If this RF is really sharp, then it’s like having two extra lens for the price of one, covering multiple genre in one. This setup will probably be lighter than having the real RF 300f2.8 or RF 400f4 DO with a tiny drop in IQ and AF performance.

Maximilian · Mar 12, 2021

VivaLasVegas said:
200f2 x 1.4 = 280 f2.8
200f2 x ~~1.4~~ 2 = 400 f4

Slight correction needed

But still a quite big, heavy and "extreme" lens for its FL, isn't it?

SUNDOG04 · Mar 12, 2021

No doubt this can be an extremely useful lens, but also a status seeker lens?

dolina · Mar 12, 2021

Maximilian said:
Surely unterstand your anger. And people should ask in first and pay in second for copyrights if not given for free.
But a little bit OT, isn't it?

I'd do what smart people would do. Ignore.

I think of this as a public service for those on the fence for a purchase.

Internet squatters will steal your work. So is it really worth posting it online or even a buy?

I wish someone pointed it out to me in my 20s so I wouldnt waste my time and money with a bunch of social justice warriors who are going after "evil corp" "fighting the good fight" when the real culprit of habitat destruction and flora/fauna extinction are their next door neighbors producing demand by having more than 2 kids.

Think breeding like rabbits of 6 or more offspring.

Dantana · Mar 12, 2021

The comments on this thread are interesting. I have heard nothing but good things about the EF version of this lens. People glowing about its performance for things as diverse as portrait, sports, and wildlife with and without extenders.
For me, I’m sure the price will be too high, but I’m not really the buyer they are targeting. Sounds like a great lens though.

slclick · Mar 12, 2021

unfocused said:
I don't get this lens. Too heavy, too short, too little depth of field, too big, and too expensive. I'm sure others love it, but I can't see any situation where I would want this lens.

Same, even with all the fanfare it never had the lure of the relatively inexpensive 135 or even the cost effective very good 2.8 200L, which is very underrated. Like others said, just too much in so many ways.

melgross · Mar 12, 2021

dolina said:
I have my 200 and 800. Wish I never bought it. Most of the Philippine-based bird watchers I met through photography with these lens are trash.

"Environmentalists" would only steal your photos for their "fundraising" and "awareness campaigns". Paying you in crediting you as the photographer without any sort of compensation.

The really loonie ones will impose their "ethics" on you that you never signed up for.

They'll never speak up that the real reason the habitat is in decline is because they're silent with how prolific they are in baby making.

If I instead used the money of those 2 lenses to buy mining shares in PSE:NIKL at ₱1.51/share in Dec 2010 and sold ₱8.97/share in Jan 2015 I'd have made ₱5.3m and avoided people looking for a handout.

You’re a horrible person.

YEUP · Mar 12, 2021

Maximilian said:
Surely unterstand your anger. And people should ask in first and pay in second for copyrights if not given for free.
But a little bit OT, isn't it?

Honestly not really that over the top. I have cerebral palsy and I have had other "birders" nearly knock me down while trying to capture images of a bird in a rare location.

If people are willing to shove a handicapped person to get a photograph of a bird then they certainly will steal a photograph.

Which is exactly why I pretty much gave up on any organized "birding". The rudeness is astounding.

CanonFanBoy · Mar 12, 2021

Hopefully, someday, I can get one. In the meantime, I’ll distract myself by breeding like a rabbit. Shooting blanks, but still free and fun.

dolina · Mar 12, 2021

YEUP said:
Honestly not really that over the top. I have cerebral palsy and I have had other "birders" nearly knock me down while trying to capture images of a bird in a rare location.

If people are willing to shove a handicapped person to get a photograph of a bird then they certainly will steal a photograph.

Which is exactly why I pretty much gave up on any organized "birding". The rudeness is astounding.

You’re NOT a horrible person.

dolina · Mar 12, 2021

CanonFanBoy said:
Hopefully, someday, I can get one. In the meantime, I’ll distract myself by breeding like a rabbit. Shooting blanks, but still free and fun.

I really wish that was the case for almost everyone. Especially those who are in their 60s and approaching half a dozen kids from more than 1 partner!

Canon RF 200mm f/2L IS USM
Focal Length	200.00mm
F Number	2.06
Half Angle of View	6.17
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	196.01mm
Backfocus	38.50mm
Canon RF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM
Focal Length	292.53mm
F Number	2.90
Half Angle of View	4.23
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	273.92mm
Backfocus	76.35mm
Canon RF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM
Focal Length	392.57mm
F Number	2.90
Half Angle of View	3.15
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	371.15mm
Backfocus	75.00mm
Canon RF 500mm f/4L IS USM
Focal Length	489.05mm
F Number	4.12
Half Angle of View	2.53
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	411.08
Backfocus	100.00mm
Canon RF 600mm f/4L IS USM
Focal Length	585.00mm
F Number	4.12
Half Angle of View	2.12
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	475.00mm
Backfocus	103.93mm
Canon RF 800mm f/5.6L IS USM
Focal Length	777.00mm
F Number	5.80
Half Angle of View	1.59
Image Height	21.64
Total Lens Length	498.01mm
Backfocus	158.67mm

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