Some food for thought
The following information is from one of my regular contributors. Read, enjoy and discuss.
5D2, 7D and 1D4
Digic IV was not designed as a video processing chip, hence it cannot downscale multi Megapixel images in real-time at a frame rate needed for video. The fastest camera ever released by the company is the 7D and it can only down sample by pixel binning close to ten 18MP images to any smaller size a second. Current implementation skips vertical and horizontal lines then averages pixel values.
Digic V has a new on die area for video processing which lets it do up to 60 1080p frames a second with help from a pre-encoding ASIC chip that does pixel binning really fast. This will generate an image with almost no visible artifacts or moire. It will still be a step below RAW video but quality will be usable on production environments and on heavily detailed scenes.
I have not heard anything about a RAW module for SLR cameras. It seems far fetched since the CF module on these cameras just can’t feed that kind of data for video even in sRAW. The only raw module I have seen specs on will be an option package on the upcoming line of video specific products in 2010.
The 5D MII 24p firmware seems to be on hold, it has been tested since the camera was a prototype and there is simply no reason why the 5D can’t do 1080 24p or 720p 30. The upcoming 1D Mark IV will have even better video than the 7D from the specs Ive heard about and this camera will not be released this year as speculated. So Canon doesn’t
really need to release a new update for the 5D. One interesting
thing that might cement this decision is that the rolling shutter on the 5D MII is much nastier in 24p and they probably thought it was just not good enough to release it. If the patch is released expect heavy rolling shutter.
1D Mark IV what to look for based on part lists from suppliers and engineers:
-Completely new AF module akin to that on the 7D but with several times as many AF points. The tracking performance on this will be the best in the industry for many years. Video focus assist will be improved in speed five fold.
-Video: 1080p 24,30,25 720p 50, 60, SD with improved picture and audio control limits. Improved video processing. If it has Digic V it will be a true binning downscale and a big jump in quality.
-No swivel screen, improved contrast and color gamut.
-12 fps at full 14bit. – this is not confirmed just rumored by staff outside of the project!
The 1D line is guarded air tight and even many engineers working on modules for the camera have not even seen the full spec list.
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first. MOOOOAAARRRRRRR 1ds!
No rumors on hom many MP for the 1D4?
Sounds logical.
I wonder if the 1D Mk IV will be full frame?
I think it will be.
The technology, especially on-board processing, is there to be able to do this.
I personally dont care about 24p, but if they could add 720 60p on the 5D2 that would be very helpful.
probably ~16mp
sure hope so… if not then its not really an option of purchase for myself
Unless you bought the device for cinema work, you know that all this talk about video is distracting Canon from the real focus of the camera… still photography.
There are “still” lacks in the camera:
It needs the ability to set minimum shutter in auto modes, preferably remembering it by the attached lens (like the micro AF adjustment) but I’m not holding my breath for perfect. Just provide me the bare adjustment. Simply put, the system doesn’t properly compensate for IS modes; furthermore, makes assumptions on how steady the photographer’s hand is. This is a must have and it would make auto modes all the more reliable.
It needs to allow setting lower and upper ISO limits for auto-ISO. Think about it…
Allowing you to set minimum and maximum aperture would be useful, too, especially for lens that have questionable extremes.
The camera needs to allow the assignment of a mirror lockup function to a button. If you do tripod work, you would understand. It’s a wonder that Canon engineers haven’t noticed this lack.
All of the above, except perhaps the last, ought to be easier to do by an order of magnitude than a video tweak for 24p, and it would put the 5D Mark II on a par with certain Nikon features…
Will it happen?
I’m not sure about the relevance of video in an SLR. Pick one or the other, all I want is a still camera with heart-stopping AF, accurate WB in almost any condition, noise free images at ISO 3200, and a feature set that would make the Nikon D3(x) waddle away in absolute shame. If it costs more, so be it…. I’m sick of Canon’s megapixel race and crappy image quality at higher ISO’s.
These comments don’t add very new stuff, although mostly match some “inside” information we got.
– Are these comments rumors, thoughts or based on real knowledge of facts? (I know some seem to be thoughts, but other comments look like more real information)
Thanks!
What a load of nonsense. You have no evidence having video features is distracting Canon from making a great still camera too, which the 5D2 already is. Just because there’s things you want that aren’t there doesn’t mean anything. The mirror is locked up when push the direct print *button* for Liveview, hence the clunk sound when you push it.
More megapixels! I dont need to take pictures in the dark.
add to this the fact that mirror lock-up’s utility (especially on a tripod) is debateable. luminous landscape, the same guys who vent day and night over canon’s inability to introduce a MLU button, are the same ones who have a page dedicated on their site to stating they found MLU does nothing to decrease the amount of vibration in an image, as most of the vibration comes from the mirror returning to its original position on the way down.
… and “put the 5D Mark II on a par with certain Nikon features…”
are you kidding me?
how about all the features the 5DMkII blows the Nikons away on?
… we’re sick of uninformed people whining about Canon’s megapixel race …
“crappy image quality at higher ISO’s”
… really? do you shoot with any of these cameras? the 7D’s high-ISO noise shows better than Nikon’s D300 or any other 1.6x contender. let me put it simply:
MPs: 7D > 50D > 40D > 30D
noise (even high ISO): 7D > 50D > 40D > 30D
and these have all been class leaders even when compared with Nikons, Pentaxes, whatever.
the 5D MK II carries 10MP more than the D700 and shows roughly equivalent high-ISO noise.
The guy who writes the posts like these (who also, I think, sent them to northlight in the past and so on a long time ago too) generally seems to know what he is talking about. I’d say the most reliable source there is for stuff that is not completely imminent. These canon future maps have hinted a lot of stuff that has turned out to be half a year to two years later….
Well, let’s hope Canon just nail’s the AF in the 7D, 1D4 and 1Ds4.
The sooner Canon gets the 1D4 and 1Ds4 out the sooner they will have a new 5D3, which is what I want.
hehe exactly
+100
I agree with kubelik…the 5dmkii is exceptional at high ISO’s. The 7D from early reviews seems to be exceptional at high ISO’s…esp. for a crop camera.
The AF for the 7D also is reported to be pretty terrific.
All in all, Canon has nothing to be ashamed of with their current line up, and most critics have never even used one.
As for the video in dslr’s, that’s the hot trend. There’s no going back. I am sure about the relevance of video in dslr’s…and it’s pretty relevant.
would you please point a link about the terrific AF of 7D
I don’t believe current video is performed by skipping rows AND columns. Why? Do the experiment yourself. It’s easy to demonstrate. Set up a subject with horizontal lines that has spacing the syncs perfectly with the sensor to produce maximum moire like this video: http://vimeo.com/2631590
Now rotate either the subject or the camera through 90 degrees. The moire disappears. Why does it disappear? Because complete rasters are used. It is skipping vertically but not horizontally.
“The 1D line is guarded air tight and even many engineers working on modules for the camera have not even seen the full spec list.”
Good to hear Canon learned from their past mistakes. :D
http://vimeo.com/6695297 shows the moire through a 90 degree rotation. There is moire in both the vertical and horizontal direction, but the vertical is stronger. I suspect the vertical moire is from skipping lines during video processing and the horizontal moire is from a weak AA filter. If both horizontal and vertical lines were skipped, their corresponding moire would be identical.
FORGOT TO MENTION:
“I have not heard anything about a RAW module for SLR cameras”
We did heard about Canon interested in a RAW module (an external device in fact), but not throught CF, but through HDMI instead.
12 fps is almost video :P
But serious, if it is a FF camera and has 16 mp+, it will be a hot seller.
Canon will crunch/defeat/demolish Nikon in the pro-segment if it has just good autofocus and the features stated above.
too much “automatic” stuff requests means you cant do it by yourself…learn how to do it in-brain, not in-camera.
You are right.
Consider this 2007 rumor in http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_50D.html
“Two full frame versions have 40M and 50M pixels at the -same- noise level as the current 1D series. Low power supply voltages give cooler chips and lower noise even with smaller pixels. Different circuit fabrication techniques also promise to make close to 100% of the sensor area active pixels. This technology won’t make any of the upcoming models, but is expected in 2009/10.”
Interestingly enough, the 7D has nearly the same pixel density as a 48 MP FF sensor. :)
Rumor has it that the D3s is coming out this year (November 3rd, 2009) with 14fps and HD video. If true then Nikon will have released 2 models (D3 & D3s) after the 1DIII was released and still no 1DIV in sight.
And who is that guy ?
We would like to contact him.
24p on the 5D Canon, c’mon just release the firmware, who cares if it’s experimental or not (if that’s true), we’d rather have the option to use it than not!
How would RAW work over HDMI though? Unless the HDMI spec gets modified, it would be pretty near impossible to deliver an actual RAW feed.
Hopefully it doesn’t concern only marketing :)
CR rating?
I stopped reading at the 1st paragraph, it seems like a load of suppositions and BS.
Quote: “Current implementation skips vertical and horizontal lines then averages pixel values.”
How the heck can it do the average if it skips lines? Don’t you need the pixel values (hence the need to READ ALL of them) before you do the average?
Post a link to a Canon document please, otherwise why go into technical details, it can even make you look stupid.
Skipping rows and columns would give you 1/4 sensor resolution. So, for the 5D2, ~5MP. 1080P is ~2.1MP, so averaging would still need to take place. I’d suggest reading a bit more technical stuff yourself before lambasting the source.
12fps will be a marketing disadvantage if the Nikon rumors are true (14fps). While that obviously doesn’t dictate everything about a body’s performance, it’s a genuinely significant factor for the PJ crowd and one which Canon will struggle with unless (at 12fps) this thing isn’t “King of the Night” / “Price of Darkness” / etc.
I think that’s verifiable based on how little we knew about the 7D before it plopped into existence.
I think you need to skip 2 rows (= keep every third row), because of the Bayer filter arrangement.
This gives you a bit less than 1080p resolution, so you need to slightly oversample (= average the pixels).
Don’t know if skipping cells in a row gives any speed advantage, so maybe they don’t do it that way…
Ooops, this was suposed to be a reply to sean’s reply…
the d3s won’t do 14fps at 14bit, just look at the d300s which only has 2.5fps
An exceptional point, though my thinking was that row reads / skips would take place after Bayer interpolation. I think it’d be hard to skip any piece of data coming out of the analog read.
I hope not, why would Canon screw up a good thing by making it FF? Hundreds (if not thousands) of sports photographers finding that they need a TC now that they don’t have the reach.
http://canonfieldreviews.com/
It’s obvious Nikon’s panicking. D300s, D3s and soon the D700s. Is this Nikon’s idea of upgrading?
D3, D700 and D300 were great achievements by Nikon, but now they’re stuck in the mud.
14 fps is BS. The D3 can do 11 fps in “DX-mode” without AF. 14 fps at FX-mode WITH AF? Not gonna happen.
Can you explain why 14fps *can’t* happen, given their acknowledged refinements to their mirror system? As well, why do you believe that upgrades which amount to firmware changes but which receive fanfare from users and maintain MSRP are bad business or indications of panic? Until the 7D, they still offered the most camera for the value in the prosumer crop segment.
… or batch crop? why introduce another lens element which slows down your camera and infringes on image quality when you can shoot FF and crop?
or Canon may introduce in-camera cropping. either way, “reach” has been thoroughly debunked as a reason not to go FF
honestly, if the Canon 1DMkIV is 12 FPS and the Nikon is 14 FPS, do you think everybody will jump ship over that?
FPS works on a diminishing rate of returns just like anything else; the difference between getting off 12, or 14 shots per second is minimal (.091, .083, .071) — not saying there’s no difference, but the functional difference is minimized and the choice of camera will come down to other things.
also, Nikon has demonstrated its willingness to “massage” FPS numbers to get higher counts, shooting at reduced image quality in order to claim higher rates, so whether this potential 14 FPS is true 14 FPS remains to be seen.
it also appears Canon’s cool-CMOS tech from 3 years ago is finally appearing in production form (as shown in the 7D), which is producing exemplary images at 18MP on a 1.6x sensor. that same technology on a 16MP FF/APS-H will be “Lord of Darkness” worthy.
heck, we should start calling the 7D the “Baby Jesus of Darkness”
I think very few of us would be surprised if the next full-frame studio/landscape shooter were to be less than 40MP, putting it on par with current MF backs.
the only question is, can Canon increase dynamic range to match? it seems they have no problem handling noise anymore, but their CMOS chips have been somewhat limited in their dynamic range, since the 1.6x and FFs all show about the same total range.
the latest 4/3 sensors have managed to get their DR up near where the last generation APS-Cs are. are they just making up for missed territory or does this mean our APS-C and FF sensors have room to grow?
correction: very few of us would be surprised if the next FF were to be MORE than 40MP
technology is integrating both horizontally and vertically — and any photographer who refuses to accept that is stuck in the past (which is fine, just don’t be so cranky about it)
the most successful photographers out there (who are and would be successful regardless of what equipment they are shooting with) recognize this and make the best of it.
and as ABC notes, video IS relevant, not just a gimmick or a marketing ploy. with the advent of OLED technology, more and more print space and wall space will be taken over by moving images, not just still images. within 2-3 years we will be seeing moving images in advertisements in news and magazines.
will still photography die? no. oil painting didn’t die when photography came about, despite all the freaking out at the turn of the 20th century. bicycles didn’t die when motorcycles came about (and are actually way more popular still).
in fact, the better the DSLR as we know it can integrate itself across technology trees, the more likely it is to survive. technological survivors, just like photo pros that survive, are the ones that can merge across industries, a process commonly denoted (or denigrated) as “cross-over”. Hasselblad didn’t go digital until very late, and it was this lack of integration that nearly killed them.
yes, the 5DMkII is a crossover, as every Canon to follow will be. are they traitors? think of it more as building bridges that ensure the future of photography
I don’t mean to sound as if Canon are going to lose out from the camera-quality standpoint, only that this will dent traditional marketing tactics. They have an historic penchant for wanting to claim the bigger / better numbers, and so while I’m more interested in IQ, I’m simply stating this will force a change in how they market. It’s a good thing in the long run, just different.
good point
I still think 28 ‘actual’, ~84 ‘effective’. And an IQ we haven’t seen outside Hasselblads; maybe surpassing it with the right lenses.
If this is true, then everyone who is intending to buy the 7D solely because of its video features should not buy it because it’s gonna get pwned anyway in 2010 ?
Seems unlikely perhaps but canon screwed lots of 5d mk2 owners over with the 7d..so why wouldn’t they ?
Just my 2 cents.
– A
Why would a $1700 camera in one format released in the fall of 2009 be expected to compete with a $4k one in a different format released the next spring? Nonsensical.
Happy to, do you mind posting a link? thanks
What do you need a resource for in this case – that skipping rows and columns leads to 1/4 the sample resolution, that the 5D2 has 21MP, or that 1080P has ~2.1MP resolution?
I don’t know, but I doubt they can do 18MP Bayer demosaicing at 60 fps (for the 7D) at that point. It seems simpler to skip raw lines (ideally analog, else digital).
I’m sure there are lots of litterature on the topic…
It depends on where in the pipeline each process is occurring. I’ve believed until recently that demosaicing was taking place pre-DIGIC in dedicated circuitry tied directly the read system. Now I’m not sure. Certainly if the former they can do it as fast as they want; if the latter they’ll have to do as you suggest and find a way to skip data from the read.
It was certainly amusing that so many people KNEW it was going to be full frame ;-)
also, who sits and twiddles their thumbs year after year because better product might come out?
of course better product WILL come out in the future.
but are you shooting today, or just daydreaming about what shots you will get someday in the future?
those of us that are actually into photography to create photographs buy equipment today because it makes real photos today.
hey, don’t buy a car because the next model will come out next year. don’t buy a washing machine either because a more efficient one comes out next year. don’t buy a TV because bigger brighter ones are coming out next year.
who’s getting screwed? the guy who’s twiddling his thumbs and daydreaming
i agree with 24fps is not important, 60 and higher fps are very nice BUT NOT at the expense of resolution, i think of video from the PoV of a frame grabber (my target is more often the grabbed frames than the clip itself).
I think you’re forgetting something when saying crop is an option. If you had the exact same pixel density on a FF sensor and an aps-h sensor, the processing loads would be larger on the FF camera, which would slow down your max FPS by roughly 25%. Yes, images quality would THEORETICALLY remain the same, but the 1D MKIV is built to be a sports camera with HIGH fps. Batch cropping would just slow things down more if it was done in camera, you’d also have to worry about how the user would compose their image through a pentaprism if the camera just cropped it after exposure. So, to me it just doesn’t make sense to shoot full frame and crop for pro users.
In the 7D’s case, I’d much rather have a camera that had 18mp @ 8fps with a 1.6 crop factor, than the equivalent 28mp FF sensor body shooting at 3.5fps that cropped my shots to give me 18mp equivalent. Again, you have to remember that these cameras are limited to the speed of the Digic processors, which is somewhere near 80 mega pixels per second for the Digic 4. I think the FF users already have their camera’s……5D MKII, and 1Ds MKIII.
We are never gonna get 1080 60p on the 5D2, it’s twice the bandwidth. 720 60p is the same bandwidth as 1080 30p, it’s definately doable. It’s not the best, but at least there’d be some option for smooth action shooting, and if the client only needs web delivery for the video, that is more than enough. Obviously 720 60p is not ideal for feature film making or high end Bluray delivery. But having the option would be nice.
I’ve already done a lot of HD video work using stop motion with point and shoots (don’t laugh, they come out really well considering).
I’m looking at buying a 5D2, it was the capability of HD video with fast L lenses that really whet my appetite. I assumed it would record true RGB per pixel (21MP scaling down to 2MP can enable this).
I’ve looked at many 5D2 (post firmware update) mov files (as huge as they are: 42Mb/s) – they’re really disappointing. It is quite obvious that it is skipping alternate VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL lines. This effect is really noticeable where there is strong red/blue colour. It’s like recording with a basic 2MP camera with a really bad demosaic filter (but without the noise).
I think this is really bad; can anyone else see this effect?
(I can still see significant artefacting even when scaling down to 540P)
Is there any chance this will be fixed in firmware in the future, or is this a fundamental limitation of their DIGICs? Should I remain with my 1000D until something good comes along?
no clue, this posting just sounded like it might have been from him, although the part about having guessed some stuff from parts orders sounds a little different though
we don’t know that the 1DMkIV is running on Digic IV, most indicate that it will be using a new processing engine (maybe even dual Digic Vs? although that’s pure speculation)
I don’t know that we should base our assumptions solely off of current processor specs. especially since the consensus is that it won’t even be 18MP.
7D: 18MP @ 8 FPS off Dual Digic IV
possible 1DMkIV: 16MP @ 12 FPS off Dual Digic V
why wouldn’t that be possible? I don’t find it a stretch at all
I definitely think those numbers are more than possible for the 1D MKIV, I was merely stating that it would not make a whole lot of sense for a sports shooter, looking for an increase in resolution over the current 1DMKIII, to buy a FF body. You’d have to crop in-body or in PP, or you’d have to buy longer glass or TC’s to get your extra reach. Although, I’m thinking more baseball and football, where that crop is handy.
Who knows, maybe the Digic V could pump out 150 mp/s… Then you could use two of them to give you 12fps @ 25mp on a FF sensor. Then Canon could have a built in crop mode where only the center 2/3 of the sensor was active for people who needed an aps-c like body. It would run at like 16mp in “sport/bird” mode. Cool!! One body fits all!!
Man kubelik, your killing me with this “Baby Jesus of Darkness” thing….I almost shot soda out my nose on that one. I need to stop reading this at work! I could have ruined my keyboard!!
“Baby Jesus of Darkness”………..lol
That’s an interesting point.
Maybe the source was confused and was trying to say that Canon is interested in HDMI output, not really RAW, but it’s weird because the message was very clear.
yup. either way, we’ll find out in about a half year. the one thing we do know already: it’s going to be one sweet camera
Probably you have to wait for RED, if you want to avoid pixel binning
Actually, telephoto ‘reach’ is only based on pixel density anyway. you would get more resolution cropping a FF image from 1Ds III to 1D III sensor size than just using 1D III. I’m all for FF, its always possible to crop an image, uncropping is the problem. and if the resolution and noise performance are bother there, as in a moderate density FF body then the combo would seem ideal to me.
I agree, If I care about the variables I’ll set them myself
you are aware that the D3 AF doesn’t work past 9fps. It just doesnt. the mirror and shutter can go @ 11, and the sensor canr ead the center DX area at 11, but with no AF. I don’t care how fast Nikon can move their mirror shutter arrangement, if its cropped and has no AF it has no USE.
Number games happen in both the camps. Do you know canon 500d has FULL HD 1080P at wonderful 20fps.
very true. when it comes to marketing, canon knows how to do it. Lol, it is funny how canon still thinks AEB more than 3 frames must be only in 1D series camera.
“Digic IV was not designed as a video processing chip, hence it cannot downscale multi Megapixel images in real-time at a frame rate needed for video.” Digic IV didn’t have to do that because the sensor couldn’t spit out full-resolution images at 30fps.
For the fact that 5D2 skips some lines, and then does the average on the remaining data.
And I would like to know how exactly the skipping and averaging is done, given that the actual sensor does not produce pixels but individual colors in a Bayer pattern. Thanks, Mr. camera sensor engineer.
Exactly! The mirror and shutter are irrelevant as long as the AF can’t keep up.
It’s bad business because while Nikon’s facelifting their models, Canon’s releasing completely new ones. If Nikon were keeping up with Canon, we wouldn’t be anticipating a D3s, we would be reading about D4 rumors.
not saying it doesn’t (since it does), I’m just talking about FPS in this case though.
I do hate it when Canon puts out HD at 20 FPS … who wants/needs/even occasionally uses that? nobody. it’s like driving a car with a flat tire.
if Nikon were really like Canon you wouldn’t hear about anything at all, it’d be in bins labeled Top Secret and in labs with signs saying Shoot on Sight…
lucky for the rumors crowd, as someone other than myself has put it before, “Nikon has more leaks than the Titanic”
I have a technical question,
The biggest difference between video that comes out of a 5d mk2, 7d or any other DSLR for this matter and that of, say, RED camera is High Dynamic Range aka LATITUDE. But where does this originate from? Is h.264 inferior to RED raw? Difference in data rate? (7D has 48-50Mb/s, which isn’t all that bad). Are 5d/7d far too much compressed (if so, would that mean that the uncompressed video of a 5d/7d is on par with a red camera? I mean what is it, the single most deciding factor that makes RED video have so much more latitude than DSLR video?
I’m not criticizing dslr video in anyway, I mean for the price its a steal. But red has so much more information in its video which makes it so much more suitable for post processing. And from what I’ve seen the 5d has very little information in say blow own out highlights, meaning if you would reduce that in post, you wouldn’t get any information out of it.
How about a US patent application detailing the reading of every third row in a combined still / video camera, directly weeding out the Bayer issue?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20090180014.pdf
canon knows that too but they wanna add “Full HD Video” in the list of features, so now they have “something” which Nikon equivalent does not.
I don’t feel like I got screwed with my 5Dii, I’ve been shooting great stuff on it for over half a year now and it’s full frame. There’s a reason I (and a lot of others) went full frame and it wasn’t to get 12 fps sports shots, it wasn’t for video, it wasn’t for anything other to take incredible low-light shots in high resolution with no cropping from my sensor.
If I waited for the 7D, then I would have felt screwed. If I waited for the Mark III, I would have missed a lot of great shots already.
I don’t recall waiting to buy any of my film gear because digital might come one day. You buy the gear that’s available and do the best you can with it. Waiting for the next big thing means missing out on more actual shooting you can do today.
The RED is already being used by photographers. June cover shoot for Esquire Magazine was the first and many more since then, google it if you like.Indie directors are finding they can shoot features with the 5DII and an audio engineer friend of mine is even recording good sound to it. Video for still cameras is VERY exciting. 10fps… soon to be old news, how about 60fps.
Now that was a cool read, I’ve actually learned some new stuff. Still doesn’t explain how the averaging for video is done, but now I have a solid reason to believe the skipping is done directly to the raw data.
Thanks for taking the time to look it up :)
Good news from Canon!
I sent Canon Inc Sweden an e-mail asking about a possible firmware update that will add 24 and 25 fps to my 5D Mark ii. This is the answer I got today Oct 20. First translated into English. Then in Swedish.
THE ANSWER FROM CANON SWEDEN TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH:
Hi Michael
Canon Inc are working on such an firmware update.
Regards
Roger
THE ANSWER FROM CANON IN SWEDISH:
Hej Michael
Canon Inc. arbetar på en sådan firmwareuppdatering.
mvh
Roger
MY MESSAGE TO CANON TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH:
Hello! Half a year ago I bought 2 pcs 5D Mark II. Since then I’ve hoped for an upgrade of the firmware so I can shoot with 24 / 25 fps. I have repeatedly tried to get answers from Canon on this update will be or not. It is equally important to know if it is not going to be any update as if there will be one! This information is vital to me as I use the camera for professional purpose. Canon don’t gain anything having irritated customers, so therefore I ask you once again for a clarifying answer. Yours sincerely …
MY MESSAGE TO CANON IN SWEDISH:
Hej! Jag köpte 2 st 5D MK ii för sådär ett halvår sedan. Har
ända sen dess hoppats på ett uppgradering av firmwaren så man kan skjuta
med 24 / 25 fps. Har flera gånger försökt få svar från Canon om en sådan
uppdatering kommer eller inte. Det är lika viktigt att veta om den inte
kommer! Använder man kameran professionellt så är denna information
avgörande. Canon vinner inget på irriterade kunder, så därför ber jag ännu
en gång om ett klargörande svar. Vänlig hälsning .
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