Canon has added another discontinuation to their EOS M camera lineup, this time it's the Canon EOS M50 Mark II, the bestselling EOS M camera. It has been confirmed that the body only kit has been discontinued by Canon Japan, with only the “Double Zoom” kit remaining current.

It's quite rare for Canon to discontinue products before a replacement is announced, but it has happened. We don't think this is one of those cases, but time will tell.

This follows the discontinuation of the EOS M6 Mark II in May and more recently the EOS M200.

There should be inventory of the EOS M50 Mark II for a few months at least and some dealers may decide to split up their “Dual Zoom” kits to sell only the bodies.

We do believe that the EOS R100 will fill the void left by the end of the EOS M lineup and we're really hoping that Canon releases some of the better EOS M lenses in an RF mount.

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  1. I’m hoping for both an M300 with eye-AF in servo and USB-C charging as well as an R100.

    The M300 would be for using with all the EF-M lenses I have and as a pocketable camera, the R100 would be more for bringing on business trips and hikes.
  2. I’m hoping for both an M300 with eye-AF in servo and USB-C charging as well as an R100.

    The M300 would be for using with all the EF-M lenses I have and as a pocketable camera, the R100 would be more for bringing on business trips and hikes.
    There will never be an M300.
  3. There will never be an M300
    I agree. Just wonder if in addition to the R100 they are also going to release an entry level, small lightweight camera with a viewfinder, to replace the M50. That’s definitely not the R10 unless they significantly drop its price. Or perhaps this a vlogger’s market now and for that type of camera nobody cares about a VF anymore anyways…
  4. I agree. Just wonder if in addition to the R100 they are also going to release an entry level, small lightweight camera with a viewfinder, to replace the M50. That’s definitely not the R10 unless they significantly drop its price. Or perhaps this a vlogger’s market now and for that type of camera nobody cares about a VF anymore anyways…
    I agree with you there, and I also think that EVFs aren't going to appear in every camera. Rumors suggest that the R100 will get some kind of new flippy screen, but I'm not sure what that means. They can also sell you an external EVF if you really want one.
  5. I wonder how long it will take for them to discontinue the duel lens kit? I'm surprised they have discontinued the body only M50II, but I guess most of that market would just want to have the lenses included anyway. With my M5 I personally prefer the EF-M 18-150mm for the convenience.
    I wouldn't be surprised if they discontinue the EF-M-EF adapter sometime soon.
  6. I agree with you there, and I also think that EVFs aren't going to appear in every camera. Rumors suggest that the R100 will get some kind of new flippy screen, but I'm not sure what that means. They can also sell you an external EVF if you really want one.
    I really dislike builtin EVFs on these smaller sized cameras. The one on the M50 is especially bad, any slight off-axis viewing distorts it greatly. And the whole experience is like staring into a dim pinhole. The same display is used on the RP, but with much better optics in front of it, which made it actually pleasant to use.
    The external EVF on my M6II gets the job done, but I wouldn't miss it if I misplaced of broke it.

    Since the shutter dial on my M6II is acting up and the store I bought it from refuses an RMA since it "sounds like software, try reinstalling the firmware", I'm looking forward to having a replacement that is a similar size, or smaller. And before you say "Fuji!", that starts at being twice as expensive as the Canon equivalent and it only gets more expensive from there.
  7. I really dislike builtin EVFs on these smaller sized cameras. The one on the M50 is especially bad, any slight off-axis viewing distorts it greatly. And the whole experience is like staring into a dim pinhole. The same display is used on the RP, but with much better optics in front of it, which made it actually pleasant to use.
    The external EVF on my M6II gets the job done, but I wouldn't miss it if I misplaced of broke it.

    Since the shutter dial on my M6II is acting up and the store I bought it from refuses an RMA since it "sounds like software, try reinstalling the firmware", I'm looking forward to having a replacement that is a similar size, or smaller. And before you say "Fuji!", that starts at being twice as expensive as the Canon equivalent and it only gets more expensive from there.

    I tend to agree. I bought the M6 II with the external viewfinder, put it on, and basically left it in place. I actually prefer it. And of course if I ever have to pack the camera in a tight space and that viewfinder sticks up too much, I can remove it.

    What was irritating to me was the camera came by itself, or as a kit with the viewfinder and one or the other of two lenses I either already had or just wasn't interested in. No option to buy camera and viewfinder. Not only was I irked, but also the owner of the store who sold it to me, who went to some sort of event put on by Canon to explain their plans for the camera, and he challenged them on that very point, and they basically blew him off.

    Canon hates it when people resell their kit lenses--to the point now where kits often don't save any money--but in this case they gave me no alternative. I would have happily bought a kit without the part I didn't want and not sold it...but they didn't even give me that option so tough sh*t, Canon.
  8. For a second there I thought the M mount, which hasn't seen a lens released in what... 6 years?, had its last major camera released in 2019, and has sold very well during some of Canon's least profitable years was in trouble, but then I reread the post and suddenly it occurs to me...

    M May, the month the M6MkII was discontinued
    5 What month is May...? Of course it's the 5th month!
    0 October is the current month!
    M Who completed their takeover of Twitter on the same day the M50mkII was discontinued? Elon Musk.
    K If we take the M200, remove the M and the last 0, we get 20, subtract 1 and that's 19. What's the 19th element? Potassium... or K!
    3 What year is it next year? 2023!

    There you have it, conclusive and irrefutable proof that the M50mk3 is coming in 2023. See? Everything's fine.... EVERYTHING IS FINE!

    All kidding aside, I still really like the original M50, and will continue to use it when I need to go ultralight, as long as it holds up. But I'm also able to separate my love for the M mount from the fact... ugh... okay my opinion that Canon effectively shut down the M system 3 years ago.
  9. For a second there I thought the M mount, which hasn't seen a lens released in what... 6 years?, had its last major camera released in 2019, and has sold very well during some of Canon's least profitable years was in trouble, but then I reread the post and suddenly it occurs to me...

    M May, the month the M6MkII was discontinued
    5 What month is May...? Of course it's the 5th month!
    0 October is the current month!
    M Who completed their takeover of Twitter on the same day the M50mkII was discontinued? Elon Musk.
    K If we take the M200, remove the M and the last 0, we get 20, subtract 1 and that's 19. What's the 19th element? Potassium... or K!
    3 What year is it next year? 2023!

    There you have it, conclusive and irrefutable proof that the M50mk3 is coming in 2023. See? Everything's fine.... EVERYTHING IS FINE!

    All kidding aside, I still really like the original M50, and will continue to use it when I need to go ultralight, as long as it holds up. But I'm also able to separate my love for the M mount from the fact... ugh... okay my opinion that Canon effectively shut down the M system 3 years ago.
    You should consider a new career as C Anon :D
  10. So today, I went out and bought a back-up but this time he M50ii. 9 left in stock locally, and said probably no more coming. I will get another 22mm and maybe the 32 or the Sigma 30mm and 56mm. Decided against R system for now and R10 (until Canon figures out this RF-S.) The dealer even laughed when I asked him about the R series for APSC, they said Canon is repeating same mistake Sony did when they entering the market - so I don't know that history either or what transpired. The vast majority of this stores Sony sales are low end ZV-E10's. Looking at the FX-30 in 6 months ... maybe...

    I noticed the R10 with kit lens is one of the top sellers now in Japan, I guess the kit lens will be fine for those who did buy them.

    Also bought my first E mount zoom, a really nice power zoom lens 18-105, F 4.0, E mount for my A6400. $660. Canon offers nothing afaik comparable for APSC.

    So, general question @neuroanatomist- you have been helpful with history to me, what wild guess would you say for most Canon sales say of past 20 years of DSLR's and now MILC's those customers never buy another lens other than the kit lens? I wonder how many % wise of M50's sold for youtubers and those customers never spent any more money on other lens? If Canon's profit as said here is in the lens (and customers never buy a prime) and even if this M50 has been a best seller but low margin- seems logical to move on to the R mount as posted here say the "R100". I get it, if they make $200 a unit versus 2-3x that on RF $2-3k primes.
  11. So, general question @neuroanatomist- you have been helpful with history to me, what wild guess would you say for most Canon sales say of past 20 years of DSLR's and now MILC's those customers never buy another lens other than the kit lens?
    Canon’s tens-of-millions ‘milestone’ announcements of bodies and lenses sold suggest a ratio of 1.4 lenses per body. When you factor in the popularity of 2-lens kits, it does seem that most buyers get only the kit lens(es).
  12. Canon’s tens-of-millions ‘milestone’ announcements of bodies and lenses sold suggest a ratio of 1.4 lenses per body. When you factor in the popularity of 2-lens kits, it does seem that most buyers get only the kit lens(es).
    Thanks! I didn't know that only a fraction of buyers buy so few extra lens if you look at the total market. So, that makes sense from a business perspective I wonder how many M50 buyers also bought the 22mm which is 33% of the M500 cost or the 32mm for $500 at nearly cost of M50 body only (before recent discounts) very few and once the recent years iPhones say 11-13 with 3 camera lens came along, why bother?

    Canon now drops M, moves to all R, and changes business focus mostly to mid higher end, more profitable segment yet quite below the Ferrari rung of the ladder where Leica and Hasselblad sit, so prosumer market? As a business decision with sales volumes post 2012 way off peak, needed to refocus.

    That Sony ZV-1F will be a 2 year experiment imo. An R100 also, and perhaps could be the end of all small, hobby cameras since the M50 even as a best seller isn't enough revenue and market share continually chewed off by Smartphones. Unless of course the wild card that Canon targets some market driven functions in smartphone imaging functions so consumers get better photos or equal cloud based, AI icloud like features from their cameras.

    It would be interesting if Canon made some sort of larger sensor(s)and larger diameter lens all-in-one yet in a smaller pocket size but with connectivity, onboard memory, no EVF, no moving parts like the powershot models but better imaging than say an iPhone. Less internal parts, consolidated miniaturized DSP chip, less ribbon cables, etc. and thin 3000ma Li-ion batteries like cell phones.
  13. "It’s quite rare for Canon to discontinue products before a replacement is announced, but it has happened. We don’t think this is one of those cases, but time will tell."

    I am pretty sure that Canon discontinued the 7Dii before releasing the R7 :)
  14. Canon now drops M, moves to all R, and changes business focus mostly to mid higher end, more profitable segment yet quite below the Ferrari rung of the ladder where Leica and Hasselblad sit, so prosumer market? As a business decision with sales volumes post 2012 way off peak, needed to refocus.
    Except... RF-S. If only they had pursued the original full frame RF-only strategy. Remember the original plan? To have a full frame camera at a $750 price point, or even below? Maybe the pandemic/inflation etc killed it. Or maybe they saw Nikon's success with the Z50 and wanted a piece of the sub-FF action, not to mention hitting that 7DII birder demographic, with its deep wallets.
  15. Except... RF-S. If only they had pursued the original full frame RF-only strategy. Remember the original plan? To have a full frame camera at a $750 price point, or even below? Maybe the pandemic/inflation etc killed it. Or maybe they saw Nikon's success with the Z50 and wanted a piece of the sub-FF action, not to mention hitting that 7DII birder demographic, with its deep wallets.
    Interesting, no idea about a $750 FF. The pandemic certainly has disrupted everything. Actually until a few months ago I never paid any attention, started lurking here and trying to decide on Canon or Sony, so glad I waited after seeing the R10 in May, I was getting excited too and subscribed here. I was going to buy into the R system until seeing available stock here and lack of low F number lenses- just those huge $2k ones only in stock here for FF. My EF's are not great, so likely not buying more of them either. No RF-S prime lenses right now and the blocking 3rd party for me was a deal breaker, so bought the Sony A6400 a few weeks ago, Sony has plenty of decent ASPC lenses available right now, not just hoping for. Got kicked in the head 2 days ago with this thread on M50 and M mount, so was happy I could buy a second M50 as I love the size and weight and balance, and for in house video I do. I am at a disadvantage as not in the US, and local stock is spotty, import tax and paperwork nonsense is ridiculous too. Time will tell what happens, but I feel this low end of market I am in will be ignored and smartphones take it over. Did you see the Sony ZV-1F? To me, a GoPro is better. Hopefully Canon offers something better than Sony and get cheaper RF-S lenses from modified M mounts next year. I really like all the small Canon cameras I have owned. I am going to start looking for more bargain used lens around locally, so far only kit lenses.
  16. Interesting, no idea about a $750 FF. The pandemic certainly has disrupted everything. Actually until a few months ago I never paid any attention, started lurking here and trying to decide on Canon or Sony, so glad I waited after seeing the R10 in May, I was getting excited too and subscribed here. I was going to buy into the R system until seeing available stock here and lack of low F number lenses- just those huge $2k ones only in stock here for FF. My EF's are not great, so likely not buying more of them either. No RF-S prime lenses right now and the blocking 3rd party for me was a deal breaker, so bought the Sony A6400 a few weeks ago, Sony has plenty of decent ASPC lenses available right now, not just hoping for. Got kicked in the head 2 days ago with this thread on M50 and M mount, so was happy I could buy a second M50 as I love the size and weight and balance, and for in house video I do. I am at a disadvantage as not in the US, and local stock is spotty, import tax and paperwork nonsense is ridiculous too. Time will tell what happens, but I feel this low end of market I am in will be ignored and smartphones take it over. Did you see the Sony ZV-1F? To me, a GoPro is better. Hopefully Canon offers something better than Sony and get cheaper RF-S lenses from modified M mounts next year. I really like all the small Canon cameras I have owned. I am going to start looking for more bargain used lens around locally, so far only kit lenses.
    Used market is usually the place to go, no matter where you are. Almost all these cameras are way overbuilt for how people use them, so chances of getting a good condition body are high. I might pick up an m6ii or m50ii used with a couple lenses for my next abroad trip. Was looking at a small Fuji, Olympus or Panasonic model, but prices on even 8 year old models are still so high, and there's a lot to like about small Canon cameras.

    The only reason I never bought into M was lack of IBIS. Of all the technologies to introduce in a consumer-level body, IBIS is by far the most needed and useful. Pros know how to get sharp photos. Amateurs struggle with blurry pics and give up in frustration, using their iphone instead. IBIS should be a standard feature. No one in sub-$1k category cares about new sensors. Just reuse the 80D sensor forever, it's fine! Spend the money on computation and IBIS.

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