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What people are failing to understand here is that Sony learnt from Betamax and gave us BluRay and whilst Betamax may have not won the consumer marketplace, it remained "the professionals tape."
The Sony Vaio is not what many people would call a failure, same to with XBR.
Be careful of what you mark as a failure attributed to Sony.
If there is a DSLR segment that withers, it'll be the entry level - the 1200Ds, maybe even the 700D, etc line, that competes on price with mirrorless but not on form factor.Quote
Does Sony make Vaio any more, or has it been sold off?
Does Sony make TVs any more, or has it been sold off?
Blu-Ray? The market has caught up a bit, but OPPO tends to still be the best
But yet, it you want to heard BetaMax as being superior, it was stronger than VHS but did not have the numbers
Which is again whay I bring up, BetaMax, TVs, and Vaio, these were all areas that Sony had strong products and to many even some of the best products on the market and they are all dead.
That is perspective. I am sure there is someone out there who still has a working BetaMax box, and many probably still have working Sony TVs, and the Vaio laptops will slowly dies.
Those product lines died because Sony could not grow or manage a segment anymore...
And yes... Sony will post a $2B loss this year.
When you have a large organization with many lines, it is nice to have diversity, but at some point, they look at investment, return, etc. I can easily see the camera line just like betamax...
People raved about
Made up only around 10% the market
After a decent run - closed / sold off.
So yeah... "Market failure" - if a product is no longer in the market, and the market still around, that is ultimately perhaps not a failure, but a DEAD LINE.
And in the world of photography.
If you jump ship today... sell off all your Canon or Nikon gear and then 2 or 3 years down the line Sony BetaMaxes/Vaios/XBRs the Alphas and sticks to making sensors and other devices for other manufacturers... what happens to your gear? Will you take a huge price hit trying to get back into Nikon / Canon or who ever is now the market? Or do you just say how great your camera was back in the day and try and justify that you don't need the latest.
Truth be told, most photographers today who have gotten their gear in the last 2 or 3 years has more than what they really need for the most part. There will always be something better. That is the nature of business
My feeling is the Alphas are mothballed in the next 3 years. and Sony is out of Cameras. Maybe they still will make sensors and lenses for smartphones, etc...
And for the motion pictures / Studio gear and the camera phone sensors, most of those are segmented. Camera phone sensors and lens are part of their "Devices" division I believe and the studio gear may be part of the "imaging", but when it comes to profits, making up for Billions of losses, something tells me the "profitability" of their DSLR segment if weak in comparison.
Weak gets sold/discontinued.
Betamax was only around 10% to VHS so if their cameras only make up 9% of the current reports camera market, not a good sign