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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II: More High ISO Samples
« on: September 28, 2014, 10:12:43 AM »
I flipped through the AF guide the other day, and people need to start really seeing how much awesomeness that has trickled down from the 1dX, plus new features. This camera is a sports/bif dream if you ask me. Superb AF coverage, must be the best coverage ever? And all the tuning you can to to the AF in the same way as the 1dX will open a brand new world for people not in the 1d market. I would be over the moon excited if I wasn't in the 1d crowd, and even now I can't wait to have a go.

And the anti-flickering mode for fluorecent light? Are you kidding me? That is a game changer...

It is going to be as huge as the original 7d.

-And buyers, PLEASE do read the AF guide and really understand how to make use of the AF system, because if you don't, you will miss out BIG TIME...

I saw the 7d2 also now can assign different AF settings to the AF-ON button and the *-button, and that is probably my most favorite feature of the 1dX.

Yes, I do realize this thread is about IQ and noise, but that shouldn't be the main reason to buy or not but the 7d2. But you take a fantastic shot with perfect focus in a ridicolous fast pace situation and that epic moment, or would you like a miss focused shot that is superclean with 14 stops of DR? Then buy another camera.

  It's got the functions, but that is it. The AF module on the 1Dx and 5DII are light years ahead of the 7D II. I for one am very disappointed. Just because of that I will never buy one.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Am I the only one excited about the new 7D mk2?
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:35:09 AM »
  After a little reading and reviewing the RAW files I have canceled my pre-order here in Thailand. I was caught up in the hype. hummm

Here is some good reading about the AF systems on EOS cameras if anyone is interested.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Photography-Tips/canon-eos-dslr-autofocus-explained.aspx
Hi,
    I just wonder what the expectation everyone had with 7D2... it's quite obvious that this camera is not IQ priority... the 7D2 is all about speed... speed to capture the moment.

   I sold my 6D once 7D2 is announce... 6D is an excellent camera with very good IQ, but since I use my camera mainly for birding, I had a problem with 6D: 6D don't focus well when subject is small and most birds are "small" especially for FF camera... even my old 60D focus better than 6D for birds. So basically:
1) 6D will give an excellent IQ, but high chance of out of focus image, Or
2) 7D2 had high chance of getting an in focus image, but there will be a lot more noise. 

   So my conclusion is to sell the 6D and get the 7D2 (since I can't afford 5D3 or 1Dx) because as noise reduction algorithm and computation power improve, the possibility of cleaning up a noisy image is higher than to make an out of focus image in focus.

   Have a nice day.

  I think the 7D II IQ will be just fine actually. I guess I didn't explain my position good enough.
I already have a camera with AF ability as good or better than the 7D II. All I would be gaining is a little more reach.

  I will pick one up for sure. It will make a great camera for me with a little more reach. But, at this point will wait a while.

  Have a good one.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Am I the only one excited about the new 7D mk2?
« on: September 23, 2014, 11:40:10 PM »
  After a little reading and reviewing the RAW files I have canceled my pre-order here in Thailand. I was caught up in the hype. hummm

Here is some good reading about the AF systems on EOS cameras if anyone is interested.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Photography-Tips/canon-eos-dslr-autofocus-explained.aspx

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7DII - Did you preorder?
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:06:16 AM »
  I don't make any money at it either. This will be the first new body I will go after. I personally could care less about the 1Dx or the 5D III. Unfortunately, the dealer here has never heard of the 7D II and Canon web site here is still pushing the 7D? I may have to buy from another country and have it shipped in. Not sure yet.. But, I will definitely get one as soon as it is available.

  Just for grins I took my 7D out yesterday after I heard the news. Sweet camera, and with improved AF.... I am thinking perfect for me...

http://flickr.com/photos/avianphotos
http://www.birdsthatfart.com

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EOS Bodies / Re: How excited are you about the new 7D II?
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:03:54 AM »
  Perfect!  Just coming in from a shoot and seeing this made my day....
Waiting on the raw files also. But, .5 stop better ISO will be a great camera for me.
I am really hoping when the RAW's start coming in it won't disappoint.
Every thing I had hoped for, and wanted in a birding camera!
1.4x t.c. on the 300 II with this AF will be my new BIF tool , WOW.
Pick up a 2.0x t.c. and my 500 II will be my new shore bird shooter.
Absolutely perfect for me.   :)

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Lenses / Re: Canon Price Drops on L Lenses
« on: August 31, 2014, 10:25:51 PM »
I am kicking myself. A few months ago here in Thailand Canon put the 500 & 600 II on sale for about 8000 & 10,000. It lasted about two months. I really want a tripod mount 600 II + 1.4 for some stationary work....   >:(

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:18:48 PM »
  I have always said if the 7D had good AF and frame rate it would be a killer combo... Since i have the Mark IV I will have to wait until the camera comes out and is rated, and compared to the Mark IV.
  Reading this thread it sounds like the sensor is going to be extremely poor compared to Sony sensors.  If the 7D II sensor can match the EXCELLENT Sony 24mp crop sensor? It will be in my bag as soon as it comes out. That will be the camera I have been dreaming about for years...

www.flickr.com/photos/avianphotos
www.birdsthatfart.com

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 18, 2014, 11:07:16 PM »
If interested here is a quick informal test I did yesterday. Crop cameras are the best birding cameras IMO beating a FF pretty handily. Especially with the new crop sensors from sony.

Interesting that Art Morris (of who's website your URL is seemingly a parody, and who actually shoots birds instead of posed pooches) uses the 1D X and 5DIII with Canon 500/600 II lenses and delivers impressive images. 

I must say, your opinion smells like birds that fart.  :-X

  Non sense.  I personally do not like his pics that much, but many do.  Many others that use Canon equipment I like much better.
Just went to your site. Looks like you use the 1dx and 5D III & 600 II.  Birding photography, you are not very good IMO. Very poor.  Jrista, on the other hand is very talented IMO. But, I don't have to agree with him for sure.

  Great hobby though.... all the best.

Thanks again for sharing your opinion.  You already know what I think of it...

Enjoy your hobby!

Same here.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 18, 2014, 10:57:15 PM »
If interested here is a quick informal test I did yesterday. Crop cameras are the best birding cameras IMO beating a FF pretty handily. Especially with the new crop sensors from sony.

Interesting that Art Morris (of who's website your URL is seemingly a parody, and who actually shoots birds instead of posed pooches) uses the 1D X and 5DIII with Canon 500/600 II lenses and delivers impressive images. 

I must say, your opinion smells like birds that fart.  :-X

  Non sense.  I personally do not like his pics that much, but many do.  Many others that use Canon equipment I like much better.
Just went to your site. Looks like you use the 1dx and 5D III & 600 II.  Birding photography, you are not very good IMO. Very poor.  Jrista, on the other hand is very talented IMO. But, I don't have to agree with him for sure.

  Great hobby though.... all the best.

 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 18, 2014, 03:36:58 PM »
How big is the birding/ wildlife photography base for a high end crop camera? I know that the bird/ wildlife pro photographers trend toward 1DX, but there are some very well respected pros using 7D and the Big Whites. Amateurs with this interest are grouped into "money no object (already own a Big White)", "value for money, middling budget (using a Little White 400, 100-400, or a Tammy, planning on upgrading to Big White eventually)", and "bargain basement / don't plan to invest in a Big White, will stick with Little White". I am in the middle group and am a good sales target for a high end crop camera. The last group will be reluctant to pay a premium over the 70D for a higher frame rate.  The first group? I have to say that I have not seen many 1DXs in the hands of amateur bird/wildlife photographers locally, with the exception of a very few tripod/blind shooters.

   I can afford a Idx, and I would not buy one for birding even at half the price. I tried one and tried the 5D III. Those are not birding cameras IMO. Or at least not for me.
  After the new big whites came out with the new FF cameras. My friends that I shoot with changed very quick. And just raved. I have been looking at there photos for the last two years. The detail and quality of there photos have gone downhill. And not just by a little. All of them also bought the new 600 to go with the new cameras.

 If interested here is a quick informal test I did yesterday. Crop cameras are the best birding cameras IMO beating a FF pretty handily. Especially with the new crop sensors from sony.

http://www.birdsthatfart.com/1/post/2014/07/pentax-k-3-sigma-300mm-f28-lens-vs-canon-1d-mark-iv-7d-300mm-f28-ii.html

Good thing in your post you put "IMO."

  LOL, yea,, I knew this was coming...
The ISO performance is much better also. But, everyone has there own views..

  Cheers, and chill out.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 18, 2014, 03:11:43 PM »
How big is the birding/ wildlife photography base for a high end crop camera? I know that the bird/ wildlife pro photographers trend toward 1DX, but there are some very well respected pros using 7D and the Big Whites. Amateurs with this interest are grouped into "money no object (already own a Big White)", "value for money, middling budget (using a Little White 400, 100-400, or a Tammy, planning on upgrading to Big White eventually)", and "bargain basement / don't plan to invest in a Big White, will stick with Little White". I am in the middle group and am a good sales target for a high end crop camera. The last group will be reluctant to pay a premium over the 70D for a higher frame rate.  The first group? I have to say that I have not seen many 1DXs in the hands of amateur bird/wildlife photographers locally, with the exception of a very few tripod/blind shooters.

   I can afford a Idx, and I would not buy one for birding even at half the price. I tried one and tried the 5D III. Those are not birding cameras IMO. Or at least not for me.
  After the new big whites came out with the new FF cameras. My friends that I shoot with changed very quick. And just raved. I have been looking at there photos for the last two years. The detail and quality of there photos have gone downhill. And not just by a little. All of them also bought the new 600 to go with the new cameras.

 If interested here is a quick informal test I did yesterday. Crop cameras are the best birding cameras IMO beating a FF pretty handily. Especially with the new crop sensors from sony.

http://www.birdsthatfart.com/1/post/2014/07/pentax-k-3-sigma-300mm-f28-lens-vs-canon-1d-mark-iv-7d-300mm-f28-ii.html

The fact that your friends bird photo quality went downhill is not indicative of the equipment, it's indicative of their own skill. I'd wager that they are having a harder time with the larger, heavier equipment, but that is something that can be dealt with via practice.

Big name, long time pros use the 1D X and the 5D III, and they make phenomenal bird photos with both. There are also some pros that use the 7D and 100-400, and their work is still excellent. It's a matter of skill, really. There is certainly the IQ benefit if you can get closer with a bigger frame and a longer lens...more pixels on subject and more light gathered. If you know how to use a 7D and a smaller lens, and use it in good light, it is extremely difficult to tell the difference.

I think the 7D line with the 100-400 and Tammy 150-600 really fill the growing market of budget birders, who can't spend $20,000 on a 1D X and 600/4 II, or who simply refuse to/can't justify it, don't want the big heavy equipment, whatever reason.

I use a 7D and 5D III with a 600/4 II myself. There is no question that the 7D has the reach, but I've got the skill...and more importantly the patience, to get close. The large frame of the 5D III definitely gets the better IQ if and when I fill the frame. Assuming the 7D II get a good still photography IQ boost and gets a much-improved AF system, I'll probably get one to replace the 7D at some point in the future. If instead the 7D II hits as a "big time" DSLR video camera, I'll skip it.

  Yea, that is why I do not get a full frame. My buds, with the extra bulk, it is killing them. Skill level? Sure, you can sneak up closer, and in a hide it is a big plus. 
  IMO, FF Canon bodes are  a bust for all around birding, But Canon does not have a good crop sensor camera either. Canon shooters do not have much of an option.
 The new Nikon 810 FF might change my mind shooting FF. I cannot wait until pics start coming in.

 Just not there yet IMO.

 
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 18, 2014, 02:05:17 PM »
How big is the birding/ wildlife photography base for a high end crop camera? I know that the bird/ wildlife pro photographers trend toward 1DX, but there are some very well respected pros using 7D and the Big Whites. Amateurs with this interest are grouped into "money no object (already own a Big White)", "value for money, middling budget (using a Little White 400, 100-400, or a Tammy, planning on upgrading to Big White eventually)", and "bargain basement / don't plan to invest in a Big White, will stick with Little White". I am in the middle group and am a good sales target for a high end crop camera. The last group will be reluctant to pay a premium over the 70D for a higher frame rate.  The first group? I have to say that I have not seen many 1DXs in the hands of amateur bird/wildlife photographers locally, with the exception of a very few tripod/blind shooters.

   I can afford a Idx, and I would not buy one for birding even at half the price. I tried one and tried the 5D III. Those are not birding cameras IMO. Or at least not for me.
  After the new big whites came out with the new FF cameras. My friends that I shoot with changed very quick. And just raved. I have been looking at there photos for the last two years. The detail and quality of there photos have gone downhill. And not just by a little. All of them also bought the new 600 to go with the new cameras.

 If interested here is a quick informal test I did yesterday. Crop cameras are the best birding cameras IMO beating a FF pretty handily. Especially with the new crop sensors from sony.

http://www.birdsthatfart.com/1/post/2014/07/pentax-k-3-sigma-300mm-f28-lens-vs-canon-1d-mark-iv-7d-300mm-f28-ii.html

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EOS Bodies / Re: Eos7D mk2, How EXCITED will you be if . . .?
« on: July 16, 2014, 01:09:50 PM »
I dunno. I've read the subsequent DPAF patents, and there isn't anything remotely revolutionary in there. Mostly just using different sized photodiodes for the AF part, and a means of increasing sensitivity for AF without reducing IQ. If that's all Canon's got for the 7D II, they are going to take a HUGE reputation hit...and they HAVE to know that... (If they don't, then they've totally lost touch with their customer base, and I am seriously hoping that's not the case.)

Are you suggesting that the people here are representative of Canon's customer base?  I see lots of clamoring for better IQ on forums but until the 70D, the 7D remained a strong seller.  I'd bet a 7DII with 41ish AF points and 10 fps, and a 24 MP DPAF sensor similar in IQ to the 70D, would sell quite well.

Unfortunately, and depressing as it sounds. I agree.
With the quality of glass Canon has. It is just depressing. For the first time in years I am starting to leave my Canon gear at home, and using other brands because of it. But, honestly I know I am in the minority. I love APS-C cameras.

Still got my hopes up though.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avianphotos
http://www.birdsthatfart.com

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: A Summary of Sigma Lens Rumors
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:41:48 PM »
  I am personally really excited about the 300-600mm lens. Will have to wait and see what it is. And a few reviews. Having two of Sigmas telephoto lenses, and  using them with the FANTASTIC Pentax K-3. I am in heaven. I love it so much I sent all the gear into C.R.I.S. to get calibrated together.  Might pick up a GH4 to go with the Sigma lenses for video..
  I am just about to buy the 18-35 1.8.. In Pentax mount... If AF is ok.. I will be in heaven... 

  Man I am hoping Canon really knocks my socks off with the 7D II..

 
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV To Feature 4K Video?
« on: July 05, 2014, 12:23:27 PM »
Well we can only judge on what we can buy  :)

As for the patents, Canon have been very aggressive patent registerers for a very long time, which is comical when you examine their early history, but that aside, patents do not products make, we have had rumours of hundreds of them over the years here and few see the light of day, we all know Canon are innovative and do a lot of R&D but most of the time companies patent to cock block anybody else.

They have struggled to make DO lenses work from the word go, they seem to be convinced there is something there and won't let it die but we are not there yet, the 70-300 DO is the biggest piece of $1,400 crap ever, I'd love to know sales figures for the 400 DO.

I still don't see how DPAF helps SLR stills shooters.

As for AF and metering, well they introduced the 45 point AF back in 2000, so it isn't like they didn't have time to put a bit more thought into it, though it isn't "radically" different is it? Dedicated processor and all but the same contrast detect chip behind a sub mirror arrangement since in body AF started. Nikon have had colour sensitive metering for years, and not just in the one top of the line body.

As for the 7D MkII having potential, I must, respectfully, disagree, even if it bests the D7100 in sensor metrics by a half stop or so, so what? That makes it slightly worse on overall image IQ than the 6D.

Don't get me wrong, I am not picking a fight and I am not out to bash Canon, I just see the last few years developments with my eyes wide open, stills are not the driving force they were even five years ago when the 7D made such an impact. In my opinion stills are not seen to be the future by Canon.

If the products haven't landed on a shelf yet then all the R&D in the world is no use to me.

The other truth is that stills are a very mature market, the quality and capability we have now vastly out strip most users needs, the 5D MkIII is probably the most complete stills shooters camera ever and Canon clearly don't believe in much higher MP, DR, blah blah sensor specs at this point. I believe we are on a technology plateau with no signs of the next BIG thing.

For me personally, put the 5D MkIII sensor in the 1Dx MkII, get me those TS-E lenses and I don't care, I'll be retired before my customers or I need more than that.

Very true, patent's don't make a product. My point was only that there is an R&D budget for still photography at Canon, and money is clearly being spent there. Patents do need to actually make their way into a product on a shelf to be meaningful, though...your dead-on there.

I really wonder why Canon doesn't bring more of their innovations into being...almost smacks of Nokia a few years ago...they had a MASSIVE patent library, but it was just IP...they didn't wield it and make competitive products with that technology...and look where they are now... Guess that's the most concerning thing about Canon. They have some amazing technology...but they aren't using it...so it isn't making money.

I still don't see how DPAF helps SLR stills shooters.

I can see it being very useful for focusing landscape shots, which I've always focused manually in live view. DPAF could automate that process.


The other truth is that stills are a very mature market, the quality and capability we have now vastly out strip most users needs, the 5D MkIII is probably the most complete stills shooters camera ever and Canon clearly don't believe in much higher MP, DR, blah blah sensor specs at this point. I believe we are on a technology plateau with no signs of the next BIG thing.

I don't know if I agree with that. DR is obviously a VERY important thing to photographers these days. It is single-handedly the most controversial and common subject when it comes to Canon vs. the others. Even if it isn't as important as many individuals and certain organizations seem to insist, it's clearly a sticking point, and clearly a perception issue between Canon and their customers. I have a hard time believing Canon doesn't know that...not after the last two years and all the debates and conversations and reviews and videos that cover the topic of how much better Nikon/Sony DR is than Canon's.

For Canon to ignore that, and release ANOTHER product without an improvement in that area....well, I think we could actually see some REAL brand migration over the next few years if the 7D II (and worse, the 5D IV/1D X II) hit the streets without a DR improvement. It may not actually matter in most cases, but it matters perceptually...and I think the companies reputation would actually finally be hurt by them not showing any real interest in their sensor IQ. I've seen Canon respond directly to the loudest demands from their customer base in the past. The 1D X and 5D III are exemplary examples of that, in multiple ways. Canon can't ignore the demand for better DR. It would be reputation damaging...

(My words above certainly don't mean Canon is actually going to do anything about it...I guess there is a very good chance they won't...but I do indeed believe it would be damaging to their reputation in the long run if they ignored the single most important demand of their customers after so many years of having that demand levied.)

  As a birder, and having shot with the latest Sony APS-C sensor. I am waiting for the next crop sensor camera from Canon.
  I am just blow away with the new sensors. It really is amazing.
  With the way I shoot. Shooting with the new sensors has given me so much exposure leeway, and increased ISO performance. It has increased my keeper rate dramatically. 
 
  I really have my fingers crossed and hope Canon will deliver. If not? I personally will start seriously looking for alternatives.  But, I don't want to. Come on Canon....

 

 
 

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