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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 26, 2014, 02:27:22 PM »
So for those that use the 7D2 with the battery grip, a quick solution until this gets resolved is you can twist the battery tray lock 90 degrees to unlock which effectively disconnects the battery.  Not so good for carrying around but if it's in your bag it's safe enough.  Maybe add a strip of tape so the tray doesnt fall out on you.

It's a sloppy kludge but it works.


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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 26, 2014, 02:03:56 PM »
Hmmm but there is no ML for the 7DII and likely wont be for quite some time.

Sorry, I forgot this is a 7d2 thread - but maybe there are some people with other cameras around here, too. Atm I don't see ML going anywhere beyond the 5d3, not even to the 70d.

Further, use of ML has historically used more battery power due to more CPU usage to drive all of the enhanced functionality.  So to say that gps save is a powersaving function is a bit of a "marketing" twist.

ML doesn't drain significantly more power when it's doing nothing, i.e. you have no features enabled or very basic ones like the gps powersaver which only runs a short function on camera on/off. And you're free to disable it at any time on camera boot. The things that draw power are focus peaking and generally all live view visual operations.

True but if you are not going to use those functions then why use ML?  Dont get me wrong.  I'm a big ML fan and probobly use Dual ISO on my 5D3 more than without.  However since it's there its nice to have some of those other features enabled but there is a cost to doing so.

I wonder why Alex doesnt take someone under his wing to continue development when he's unable to.  Anyway that's a discussion for another thread.

I hope it does make it to the 7DII eventually.

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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 26, 2014, 01:45:09 PM »
I admit, the GPS function will continuously drain (of course, it's working) but the idea that it should shut itself off means it will spend time and energy  resetting itself each time you turn it on -- so, the lesser of two evils here.

Magic Lantern has a gps powersave option that turns gps off on camera off and remembers the state when turning it back on.

Back to the point -- at present, I shoot with all Canon gear -- and can't fathom missing a shot in the field because the lens forgot to adjust in some minor way.   It's not like "horseshoes" where close counts - either the gear works as its designed, or it doesn't - and the opportunity for the "doesn't" (even minimally) increases when you interbreed brands. JMHO ...

I've also avoided 3rd party lenses so far, and have a bad experience with the Yongno rt trigger. Having said that, sometimes there isn't really much of a choice. For example. only Tamron has a 24-70/2.8 zoom with IS and its half the price of the Canon mk2. If given the choice between a Tamron lens or no lens at all, I'll take the Tamron :-)

Hmmm but there is no ML for the 7DII and likely wont be for quite some time.  Further, use of ML has historically used more battery power due to more CPU usage to drive all of the enhanced functionality.  So to say that gps save is a powersaving function is a bit of a "marketing" twist.

Also one of the things you buy when you pay the extra money is the time spent testing with other canon products.  If Tamron spent the time to test their products with that care  on every other system, then their price would be twice that of canon.  You get what you pay for I'm afraid.


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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Amazing Custom Settings
« on: November 25, 2014, 06:37:03 AM »
I set up my camera as follows. Please note I am a bird photographer so if this does not interest you just skip over.

AF-ON button has a custom setting for Birds in Flight.  Go to the custom controls (3rd tab in the orange menu).  It should be set for metering and AF start.  Then hit the info button and 4 more options appear.  Mine are set as follows.  AF start position set to SEL.  2nd is set to AI servo case 1. 3rd is set to AI servo.  4th is set to expanded zone focus.  So basically when I hit that button I am immediately in ai servo with zone focus with the sensitivity that I set for case 1.  No excuse to ever miss a BIF shot now.

The * button is set as to sel, case 2, one shot, af area 1 point focus.  So again I hit that button and am automatically in one shot with center point focus.

I custom set the Set button to be the magnifier button at 2x.  So no need to use my left hand at all and can quickly see if I have the correct shot and sharpness that I need.

I custom set the multi controller to direct AF point selection.  so while in one shot or servo I can just move it to pick any focus point or zone that I want without pressing any other buttons.

And the AF lever I custom set to ISO.  so I just need to pull the lever and turn the main dial to quickly change ISO.  Again without taking my eye off of the camera at all. 

All of these can be done very easily while eye is on the subject.  For instance I am shooting a shore bird and am using one shot to do so with my thumb on the * and the bird takes off flying.  Now I only need to move my thumb and I can instantly track it in expanded zone and AI SERVO. 

In addition I have the shutter set to metering and af start.  This allows me to press shutter half way and I have it set to ai servo and 1 point focus.  So now I have 3 options at my fingertips.

Only shutter with ai servo and center point focus easily switched to stay on the eye with my multicontroller.

af-on with ai servo and expanded zone for BIF

and the * with one shot and center point.

Hope that helps.

Thanks a lot
I have a question about your setting:
Ok to assign a different option (for example C1 and C2) at the botton Af/on and * to have two different choise to shoot but is necessary to press continuos the button or if to press it the option is started and remain if no press more ?
Is it  possible assigne to the same botton also the number of focus point and all those options are working togheter ?
Thanks

See reply #8.  There is no way assign it so it stays selected when you press the button.  Only selects AF mode while the button is down.. You can assign other functions to set when it's pushed.  For example you want spot AF and ISO 1000 when you press the button.  The is a new feature for anything less than a 1D.

I would like to be able to toggle between high speed drive mode and silent mode but have not found that to be possible.


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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Amazing Custom Settings
« on: November 25, 2014, 06:30:27 AM »
I just got this camera about a week ago . I love all the different custom settings .Its going to take me awhile to go through them . I love that button next to the joystick . I was wondering if theirs a raw format for this camera yet . I would REALLY LIKE to shoot raw . Please let me know . -Stevens-

I use CS5 and I'm not ready to switch to Lightroom.  For now I use Adobe DNG converter which lets me  convert to DNG and support my earlier camera raw version.  Eventually I'll make the LR purchase once the price drops a bit.

You can also use the DPP app that came with the camera.  It's a pain but it works....mostly.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 08:01:00 PM »
I simply don't think it's feasible to use larger supertelephoto lenses with tiny bodies effectively...

Earlier in this thread I referred to using a MILC (EOS M, in my case) with a 600/4 as an ergonomic nightmare.  I will say that applies to handheld shooting – with the lens mounted on a gimbal head, a tiny body isn't a problem, provided your plate/clamp has enough positioning flexibility to balance properly with a very light body.

Oh sure, I've mounted the 500 f/4 on the EOS-M on a tripod, it works fine. I wouldn't want to do it handheld - especially without a viewfinder.

And about 5 minutes of battery before it runs dead and try to focus in bright sunlight.  Large format DSLR won't ever be replaced by small format cameras, especially mirror less.  Small cameras have their purpose but they are just a tool....and limited at that.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Amazing Custom Settings
« on: November 24, 2014, 10:05:15 AM »
Thanks a lot for your fast reply.
Ok for af button but is no "normal " that line light meter is so little and sometimes is very difficult to see it
Do you think could possible inform Canon about this problem ?
Have you a right contact ?
Ciao
Gio

The light meter is troublesome for me as well.  I wear glasses and when focused on a subject the meter to too far off to the side.  Generally to see it I have to shift my eye position and then back again.  Would have rather had it superimposed onto the display.

From a support perspective there are two ways to report issues to Canon.  By phone or via their web portal.  When you call Canon you generally get a first line call taker that is trained to answer common problems like how to insert a battery or keep the lens cap from falling off.  It takes time to get your call escalated to someone that is more technical.  THe support portal is a great way to report issues and especially so if the issue is just a report and you dont expect an immediate resolution.  THe portal entries or complaints go directly to their support team and they do take note of complaints about features and functions.  Doesnt always mean it will get fixed but if enough people complain they may do something about it.  Below is the portal for Canon USA.  Other countries may have similar portals so you would just have to search for it if you are not in the US.


http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/form_display/sup_by_email


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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Amazing Custom Settings
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:33:58 AM »
Now I hav bought the new camera and I am tying to etup but I nee some help by people owner of this camera.
I have two questions:

- if I will use button * to change setting one shoot/af Servo or Af servo/One shoot it is working only when I press it ...how is it possible to organize this change without press continuos ?

- the vertical line on the right side about light meter is very very little isit possible make it bigger or less light ?

Thanks
Giovanni

Welcome Giovanni.  The one shot/AF servo button assignment can only be made momentary.  I configure this function to the depth of field preview button so I press and hold with a grip finger while shooting.

The light enter is fixed and nothing we can do about that.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Focus problems with the Canon 7DII?
« on: November 23, 2014, 07:23:43 PM »
No worries Rod.  I sometimes reply to comments knowing that others are reading since this is a public forum.  One thing I willadd that it's difficult to judge sharpness when shooting over ice.  Many times I've thought I've had a problem only to discover that the distortions were my problem.

Really try to set up a controlled environment.  I just finished AFMA calibrations on my 600 and once it was locked the images are now tack sharp.  Again the newspaper on the wall trick is a great way to test things out and verify all is as expected.

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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 23, 2014, 12:18:21 PM »
Hi VinniWongo.
Nice bit of detective work!
I think since the introduction of the transmissive LCD screen in the viewfinder there has always been some power to the camera when off, proof, look through the viewfinder with the power off then drop the battery out and watch the screen dim! Certainly is like this on my 7D.
I don't know why they keep it powered, does it take too long to start from cold, wouldn't be able to quote start time less than 0.2 seconds (or whatever it actually is).
To me, and others looking at GPS, off really should mean OFF.

Cheers, Graham.

Hi all, thanks for the replies so far. I should have stated from the beginning that gps is off, canon original battery, no grips.

I have trawled quite a few forums on battery drain when off and various models seem to appear and looks like it's a possible firmware, hardware combo issue. I stumbled across one guy that videoed his display flickering with a Tamron tele-converter on and also stated that it drained his battery when off. Logic dictates that when a camera is off it should mean no power to anywhere in it's body. However, I currently have a Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 on the 7D mark II. This lens normally resides on my 5D mark II without any battery drain issues. Last night I put it back on the 5D and stuck a canon 100mm macro on the 7D. Checked the battery % and 11 hours later it is still the same %.

Obviously this takes some time to do these checks and I would want a more conclusive time period for each test, but I will go through all my lenses attached to the 7D to see if it is one model or make that is causing this. None of these lenses cause a battery drain issue on the 5D.

Lenses are Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC, Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC, Canon EF100mm Macro, Canon 70-300 f/4.5-5.6L IS

As I find more results on this I will update, but it will take time.

Most of the models maintain some power during off.  When you open the card door and/or replace cards the camera does a recheck when the door is closed.  This is on all of the models not just 7d2.  If you want GPS on but don't require instant updating, you can set the polling time for very long...like 30 minutes or 1 hour.  That will also reduce the battery drain.  Most of my cameras I've used will also do a read or reset when a lens is changed when powered off.  So off does not mean off unless you remove the battery.


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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 22, 2014, 10:08:13 PM »
To me it doesn't really matter that others are innovating faster than Canon in some areas.  So far I have been largely disappointed with Nikon and Sony as a system.  The envelope is pushed so far that their equipment is not very reliable and certainly not very durable.

The reason I chose Canon was I needed a system that would stand up to challenges, including environmental, and work when I needed it to.  Both Nikon and Sony have fallen short on that with me.  Regardless of Canon's "lack of innovation" in some areas...and I say some areas because there are plenty of areas for which they are ahead in innovation, AF technology being one of them...Canon has continued to delivery exceptional quality for what I need it for.

At this point and anywhere in the foreseeable future, I do not see myself switching systems even if I had the $$$ to just start over.


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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 22, 2014, 05:45:45 PM »
Just got back from a road trip.....shot 404 pictures over 11 days (mostly in the rain) and the change on the battery is down to about a quarter... Gps is off. Not quite the battery life of the 60D, but certainly much better than the OP.

There was a lot of playing with the menus and a lot of looking at pictures on the screen, so that probably explains some of the loss of battery power.....

Yes I'm finding there is a lot of new camera syndrome where the user is chimping more than shooting.  Though no doubt the 7DII is a power hog.  I knew that going in so I ordered with a grip and spare battery.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Focus problems with the Canon 7DII?
« on: November 22, 2014, 04:31:42 PM »
So I had my first real run today with my Canon 7D mark ii and sadly, I have a lemon.

80%+ of my images are showing a focus point on Canon's ZoomBrowser, that were nowhere near where the camera confirmed during the shot being taken.

I'll be asking for a straight swap out, can't keep this body :(

Here's the best of an unsharp bunch

Focuspoints in zoom browser or DPP are not accurate.  They only give you a general idea of which point was active and where.  I wouldnt consider the camera a lemon because of a software issue.  More likely you need to micro focus adjust your camera to your lens.

Can I add lenses my camera doesn't recognize?

Not sure I understand your question.  Are you asking about AFMA on a 3rd party lens?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Focus problems with the Canon 7DII?
« on: November 22, 2014, 01:49:41 PM »
So I had my first real run today with my Canon 7D mark ii and sadly, I have a lemon.

80%+ of my images are showing a focus point on Canon's ZoomBrowser, that were nowhere near where the camera confirmed during the shot being taken.

I'll be asking for a straight swap out, can't keep this body :(

Here's the best of an unsharp bunch

Focuspoints in zoom browser or DPP are not accurate.  They only give you a general idea of which point was active and where.  I wouldnt consider the camera a lemon because of a software issue.  More likely you need to micro focus adjust your camera to your lens.

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Technical Support / Re: 7D mark II battery drain
« on: November 22, 2014, 01:43:39 PM »
So far been really pleased with the body till I found out that it drains the battery flat in about 4 days while turned off.

You double-checked gps is off? Otherwise "off" mean (nearly) no battery drain with such an expensive product, and I only expect cheaper companies like Yongnuo to kill your batteries if you don't remove them physically.

I need to rig up a test on how much these cameras drain batteries with different features turned on and off.  SHould be "fairly" easy to measure the current draw from the battery in different situations including power off.

In the OPs case I think there is something wrong with his rig.  Even with GPS on my battery is still 90%+ after 3 days.

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