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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?
« on: February 04, 2013, 01:02:42 PM »
Hey, everybody! Time to make fun of me!

Just had to trash my first shot for moire from the 6D. I know, I know, I just got done ranting about how I'd never had to trash a shot for moire, but here I am. Had a medium shot during a controlled shoot where a polo shirt started acting funny and somehow I didn't notice during production. Luckily, I had filmed coverage from a few more angles, so I was able to use those shots in the edit. Remember, always shoot more than you think you need ;)

I always get on my guys about not paying enough attention to focus, but if I had missed focus by just a little the moire wouldn't have shown up. Hilarious.

So I still think the 6D is a great camera, and no more prone to moire than the 5D2, but just wanted to point out that if you get on the internet and get on a high horse about your lack of moire issues you will suddenly start having moire issues.

Yep. Karma.

Lenses / Re: Advice...lens for my new Canon 6D
« on: January 31, 2013, 04:25:24 PM »
I agree with most of the things the above posters have said. The 24-105 is great in many situations and very sharp, but lacks the subject isolation you might want for getting creative with a portrait. The 85 1.8 is my favorite lens for this, and is the lens on my 6D most of the time I'm doing portrait-type work. It's not razor sharp at 1.8, but at 2.8 you've got good sharpness and a narrow DOF.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?
« on: January 26, 2013, 01:24:48 PM »
Interesting that nobody else has sharpness 0 magically curing all moire.

Never said it 'magically cures all moire,' but I'm pretty sure you know that. There are very specific circumstances that will cause the 6D to show moire, and it's most pronounced (like in the above clip) when sharpness is turned up. It's much lower (though still present) when the camera isn't doing broad-stroke sharpening to the image. Moire is an issue when you film things that will obviously produce moire, so small framing and focus adjustments can normally make the problem less serious than filming rows of parallel lines, which the majority of videographers don't do. These small, often on-the-fly adjustments are what professionals do every time they put a camera in their hand.

I don't whip-pan a DSLR because the sensor doesn't scan globally. I don't film completely overexposed content because I can't recover the highlights. I don't shoot on class 2 memory cards because they're not fast enough. And I don't crank the in-camera sharpening up, shoot tons of fine pattern detail that a line-skipping sensor can't properly resolve, and then get angry at the camera when it doesn't look right.

There's a tool for every situation. The 6D is great for plenty of them. Certainly more than enough for it to be "usable shooting video."

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?
« on: January 25, 2013, 08:14:48 PM »
It depends upon what you shoot. If you shoot natural world stuff or outdoors and don't want to have to pick and chose the few things you can shoot the 6D will no way cut it. If all you do it planned studio shoots or planned scenes where you can pick your outdoor background maybe you can get away with it, but that is an entirely different sort of shooting, not everyone does only that sort of shooting.

I shoot documentary type work with it -- run and gun from indoor to outdoor, brick walls, wood grain, circus nets, buffets, beaches, forests, network racks, stone temples, seminars, everything near far and in between. That's why I love this camera -- it's great in any sort of lighting situation, which is something I often can't control (or am not allowed to control). I have the sharpening set to 0 (important) and get it back in post. I take a brief moment to set exposure, framing, focus, and then I'm off. I've literally never had to discard a shot from the 6D because of moire issues.

The 6D cuts it. This is from experience using it with it set up properly, which most people complaining about it don't have.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?
« on: January 25, 2013, 11:15:01 AM »
If you have the $1000 more to spend the 5D3 is great, but if not the 6D is a great alternative. We've been filming around moire issues for years with the 5D2 so saying the 6D isn't usable for shooting video is like saying a new Camry isn't drivable because it only goes just as fast as a Camry from a few years ago and not as fast as a new Lexus.

I've been using the 6D for video since it came out. My clients are happy with the results. Other shooters are constantly blown away by the low-light capabilities. If you absolutely have to shoot moire-inducing patterns regularly, and can't get around it by turning the in-camera sharpening off, tweaking focus, or pointing the camera somewhere else, you obviously know which camera to buy. Otherwise, if you can't figure out how to shoot a good video on the 6D spending the extra grand isn't going to help.

@ScottyP Can you show me in the manual where you're talking about? I see a reference to something like that when using Av mode (manual page 173, "Flash Synchronization Speed in Av Mode"), but nothing where the user is manually setting the shutter, like in Tv mode. Generally I think it would drive me nuts if the camera was automatically overriding my manual settings. If the user is in Aperture Priority mode, the camera can make all the decisions about shutter it wants, especially limiting it to the sync speed. In Shutter Priority, the user should be making all shutter decisions, for better or for worse, no matter what the camera thinks is correct.

I don't think the camera is supposed to do this. Any time I'm using a flash I change things myself to fall under the limit, because if I manually set the shutter speed higher I know it's going to cause that issue. In manual mode or shutter-priority (TV), which are both modes where the user specifies the shutter speed, shouldn't the camera assume that because you're manually setting it at 1/400 that you're doing it on purpose?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Review - EOS 6D By Gizmodo
« on: January 03, 2013, 09:29:07 AM »
The video quality on the 6D is essentially the same that we've been used to and creating workflows around for the past few years. Yes, the sensor makes for some moire if you are shooting that type of patterned subject, and yes Canon really should have fixed that by now, but to say that if you'll be shooting video you need a Mark III is a little ridiculous.
This single failure ruins the 6D as a viable alternative to the 5D3 for professional video.
Seriously? I just shot for a week in Mexico with the 6D and the video turned out great. There was even a shooter with the Mark III who was blown away by the quality of the 6D's video in low light.
We get it, the 5D Mark III shoots great video, but saying that the 6D can't be used professionally because it has the same issues that other professional cameras have had for years is a bit off, in my opinion.

I always tell people that the 5D Mark II didn't magically become a bad camera when the Mark III came out. I have one and still use it all the time, and recently these forums have shown me how many people still use the original 5D "Mk I"! I love the look of full frame, but I know tons of photographers who use one ff and one crop just to have the option of the extra reach, plus the frame rate of the 7D is awesome. You won't regret either!

As far as RAW performance, as long as you're using Adobe Camera Raw, Lightroom, Aperture, or something similar, noise shouldn't be an issue from the 5D around 1250 and 1600. You can honestly take 2500 or higher, but you'll be trading for sharpness. It all depends on your preferences and post-production methods. The Mark II has a pretty good center point for AF, and in low light especially I wouldn't even have the others enabled. I've heard good things about the 7D's AF but I can't speak on it directly.

Don't know if flashes fit into your shooting style, but a well-utilized shoe mount flash can make ISO worries and low-light focusing issues a thing of the past (mostly).

I have a bunch of Wasabi batteries that I used with my 5D Mark II. They'll power the 6D as long as they're charged using an old or offbrand charger (not the new one that came with the 6D) and the camera won't show a readout of how much battery is left. Very inconvenient, so right now my Wasabis are backups and my Canon's are the primaries.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Only 1 lens
« on: December 11, 2012, 01:16:52 PM »
I agree with the multiple users suggesting the t3i, and t4i. Sure the kit lenses aren't the sharpest things in the world from a professional standpoint, but these are extremely capable cameras (& lenses) that can get great results for plenty of people. Technology keeps getting better and better but people seem to often forget that these "entry level" DSLRs are much more powerful than the professional ones not that long ago.

I say get a t3i or t4i kit package, and when you're in a better place financially start upgrading lenses.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Suggestions for a first monopod for a 5D3...?
« on: December 05, 2012, 07:38:15 PM »
This is without a doubt the best video monopod I've ever used:

+1 I have this Monopod and it superb + it has the 501PL quick release plate, as I also have the Manfrotto 055XPROB tripod with 701HDV head, I can switch across between them. I'm probably going to get a 055MH05-Q5 Manfrotto ball head after xmas and that also uses the 501 quick-release plate (you can buy extra plates for around  21 euros or <$30, if you wanted to use them for lights, speedlites etc. or if you wish to keep one permanently o your new 70-200 and another on your DSLR)

I can also vouch for the 561BHDV-1. It's really a tremendous thing (though a bit pricey) and it works with the 501 QR system I use on my tripod -- a HUGE benefit. Quick release plates are much more useful when you can change between stabilizers quickly.

Which is why instead of the 561BHDV-1, I'd recommend the 560B-1. It uses the same QR system as your tripod. Only downside is that it doesn't have the video head, but my first monopod didn't either and it was still a fantastic tool for photo and video alike.

I wasn't sure about the feet at first, but the first time you use a monopod with a fluid cartridge and feet your mind is completely blown. Also, I've used the RC2 based monopod with an XH-A1 on top boomed over a crowd and never had any fear about stability. Lock it down tight and you should be ok.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EF 50 f/1.4 for $299 at B&H
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:11:48 PM »

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 4K 15 FPS
« on: November 29, 2012, 08:00:21 PM »
Depending on the type of motion being filmed (slower/less complex would be better), the 4K mode could potentially be time-stretched in post-production into perfectly usable footage. Same concept behind the HDR workflow in Magic Lantern.

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