@steliosk: As discussed earlier on this site, you probably won't get a rumored Canon 12/14-24 f/2.8 at the same price as the Nikon...
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Well, I don't want "crazy" things...
I rather want an UWA with a normal zoom range (16-35 preferred but I can accept shorter zooms like, let's say 16-28, 14-24) with a fast-but-normal aperture (f/2 - preferred but if isn't possible be it f/2.2 or even f/2.8 ) but with stellar sharpness, no flare and low distortions.
And I know that this is possible in a good price range.
I never follow any rules with a fisheye... and I admit I am totally addicted to mine In the beginning I would over think how to line everything up, now I just look through the viewfinder trying to compose the large items, the horizon and converging lines within the frame nicely. Also, depending on the distortion needed... I can frame my rectilinear lens with a lttle tilt. This can really exaggerate the perspective, creating a unique view.
Canon 5DmkIII w/ Sigma 15mm ƒ/2.8 EX DG Fisheye
MotoGP 2012 Mazda Raceway, Laguna Seca - Helicopter Ride by David KM, on Flickr
Bryan - Treasure Island, San Francisco... by David KM, on Flickr
Monterey Bay Aquarium by David KM, on Flickr
Wings Over Wine Country Air Show 2012 - P51 "Lady Alice" by David KM, on Flickr
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my bet is the 5d3 will get the standard cycle of 3-4 years and the reason this is being brought up is to get people talking - because while there is a ver vocal minority of haters for the 5d3, there are tons of happy users who stay quiet! A high mp camera with better DR is geared towards a different user base than the 5d3, which yeah, appeals to most wedding shooters like myself.
Again, in my local photographer community, no Nikon wedding shooter recommends the d800 to those looking to upgrade - most say d700, d3, d3s. I know many will flame me for saying it, the good old - memory is cheap argument. But, those wedding shooters that did snag a d800 say it stays in the bag on wedding day because the files are just too damn big and adds too much time to the work flow. (it's not just buy more CF cards and new HD's, most will have to upgrade their computers to handle the larger files).
With that said, a canon high mp body may be more versatile because it would most likely offer RAW, mRAW, and sRAW - where d800 only offers crop mode (I'd rather have a lesser mp'ed image at the full scale of the FF sensor than a smaller file but cropped). So on that end, a high mp body may sell to wedding togs. But, I doubt wedding photographers woud leap at such a body (especially if its in a 1d series body), maybe a few really high end wedding togs (many of them may buy it for the studio and leave it there on wedding day). Even if it has better DR, how much of that would be lost when shooting at mRAW or sRAW? Thats why I think the 5d3 hits the sweetspot of performance across the spectrum.
Last thing to say, a split line for for the 1D and 5d does make sense - wedding and sports shooters would still have their tools, while studio and landscape shooters would be abe to use the 1dxs or the 5d3s.
If you don't do sports photography, you really don't need a 7D. That said, the 60D is not intended to be used by professionals. It has no auto focus micro adjustment. It has a mostly plastic body.
Unless you mostly shoot in RAW, and print pictures larger than 8x10, the 60D would probably suffice.
Since you seem concerned about losing money to depreciation...and you already bought a 60D, then sold it, then bought a new 7D for a relatively low price, I would just cool it on buying anything else. You're already seeing a lot more depreciation than if you had just bought the one camera and kept it, or else waited and bought a 70D or a 7D II.
As for what looks good in your hands...frankly you're being silly and shallow a bit. Nobody is going to be looking that closely at a crop camera body while it is in your hands, or be able to tell the difference...they are similar in size (maybe between a rebel and a 7D, yes...but not a 60D). People who know, are looking more at what lens you're using anyway.
If you're mostly doing video, anyone who is familiar with that, would be looking more at your sound rig and tripod, or otherwise your cinema grip.
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<p><strong>A new EOS-1 body in 2014<br />
</strong>The latest we <a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1D_Xs.html\" target=\"_blank\">and others</a> are hearing is that a large megapixel camera from Canon won’t be coming until 2014. This coincides with information that Canon <a href=\"http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/01/canons-roadmap-for-2013-cr2/\" target=\"_blank\">would be releasing 3 DSLRs in 2013</a> and none of them outside of the APC-S segment.</p>
<p>Prototype cameras with sensors beyond 40mp do exist and are in the hands of very exclusive testers. However, we’re also told that a few lenses in the lineup will need updating before a large megapixel camera hits the market for Canon. No specific lens was mentioned, but I would imagine a full frame ultra wide zoom is one of those lenses.</p>
<p>From the same source as above, 4 new EF lenses will be coming in 2013.</p>
<p>Canon’s announcement date for a new EOS-1 may be dependant on when Nikon announces the rumoured 36mp D4x, Nikon cannot have two such cameras on the market while Canon remains quiet in my opinion.</p>
<p><strong>EOS 5D X?<br />
</strong>A faster update? One suggestion from a known source is that Canon has loose plans to replace and/or update the EOS 5D Mark III quicker than the previous iterations. Could we see one some time in 2014? I would think a direct replacement would be unlikely, however a small, high performance & higher megapixel DSLR would probably have a place in the market.</p>
<p><em>*Notice how I didn’t say “EOS-3D ”</em></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>
1) Did you take an ISO 204800 or 102400 photograph? I tried one at 102400, exposing well to the right (not a very dark room) and outcome was pretty well although it required quite some NR to make it look right.
2)What do you think can be expected from a 5DIV or 5DV (whatever they may call it) at hopefully about the same MP with an improved sensor design as the rumors are floating around? Will we see 51K or 102K IQ compared to what is now 25k IQ for the 5D series? Or let's say, will IQ at 102k improve at least half a stop or a as up to a whole stop in RAW until 2015 or 18?
1) Nothing other than test shots in that range. I do use ISO 25600 and that works fine, I haven't (yet) had a need to go higher. To me, the ~2-stop advantage (considering both quantity and quality of noise) of the 1D X is maintained all the way up, so ISO 102400 looks about like ISO 25600 on the 5DII, and the latter was too high for me. On the 5DII, ISO 3200 was my normal cap, ISO 6400 was for 'emergencies' - so I treat ISO 12800 and ISO 25600, respectively, the same. But I did (very) occasionally use ISO 25600 on the 5DII, and so I will likely need ISO 102400 on the 1D X some day...
2) No idea. The 1D X is better at the highest ISOs than the 5DIII (0.5-1 stop advantage, IMO), so that suggests there's a bit of room for improvement in the 5-series.
I wish my wife would let me say so...Yep! I have my camera bag closed too. With two dogs and a cat in the house, I do not want them to even attempt competing with me!closed of course!That way the camera is safe from ... the cat
Also, you do not want your picture taken... by the cat
I am the "Man" of the house and I have my wife's permission to say so!
Impressive pictures, I have a hard time getting the high ISO looking better than they do with my 5D3. I'm working on other settings and improving my skills so hopefully one day.
In other words, Canon will soon have 3 dedicated cinema bodies in the market, but still no dedicated landscape / studio body?.. Yawn. This is just another sign that they shifting away from stills, and more towards video.+1 on the 14-24L glass
How about announcing the 14-24L, or at least letting us know if there is a big MP body coming this year or the next?
5D3X, 5D4 or whatever the name is. I need it naow!!
5DIII + 24-105/4L will deliver noticeably better low-light/high ISO IQ than 7D + 17-55/2.8. For low light candids, I also agree that an f/2.8 or faster lens is the way to go.
Personally, I prefer not to depend on IS in that situation - even if the camera is stable at 1/30 s (IS or tripod), subject motion is a problem, and especially in candids where subjects aren't 'holding still' for the camera (even in posed shots, I prefer at least 1/60 s). On my 1D X, I use a minimum 1/125 s shutter for shooting people - and I let the ISO run up to 12800 with no worries.
I have both bodies. I don't have an issue shooting my 7D at 12,800 for sports and such if I have to but I sure would not do that for a wedding. 7D @ 1600 is comfortable and 3200 if I have to. The 7D will yield great even higher ISO shots but I call the sensor light hungry. It needs correct exposure so it is not very forgiving.
The 5D3 on the other hand will do better at higher ISO's and is a little more forgiving. If I were to shoot a lot of low light I would get a FF sensor. It is just basic megapixels, sensor size and math.
Here is my 7D at 12,800. NR using PS/LR - they are both the same. I really can't tell you about AF acquisition as I don't suffer with either.
Actually it's quite easy. If you REALLY want the 5D3 and don't have the money for it, then just wait until you have the money for it or wait until the price drops. Over here in Belgium the price of the 5D3 is 2.859 EUR which is 3,820.62 USD. So even more expensive. I'm still deciding between a 6D (1.759 EUR / 2,350.64 USD) and a 5D3 (2.859 EUR / 3,820.62 USD).