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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 6D + 24-105 L combo not that great?
« on: December 28, 2013, 02:01:36 PM »
I feel this guys pain. I haven't worked this hard to get consistent sharp pics since my 7d debacle.

Im on my second 6d body, and its performing much better then the junk canon first sent me. Its not 'there' yet though...i still feel like its not as sharp as its supposed to be, buti haven't AFMA yet. It is however showing much better baseline sharpness with my reference 24-105.  Reminds me of my Eos M images with the 22/f2.

Im still looking for how these images will ultimately better than what my t2i can produce at iso 100. Ive seen plenty examples from others online, but as of yet i haven't experienced them with the 6d.

Here's some cropped, 1:1 eyes from my t2i. Can i realistically expect "better" from full frame?

The eos M already kicks out great images (a bit noisy, but manageable) so its more in terms of getting used to the touchscreen vs say, a g12/15/16

For me, the M does not replace the g12- even though it takes better photos. the g12 is much more practical to stash in a large pocket or in areas where its tight- not so much for the M. Even today, i carried the M +22mm, and my g12, which i can use for zooming in if i need to.

When traveling abroad, or city adventuring, i always carried one camera with me- again, the g12. i can walk with it in my hand (or swinging a bit), its fairly durable, where the M feels like a good ping would jam something up. Add the invaluable swivel screen, and you have a pocket warrior that just rocks.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware 2.0.5 Now Available
« on: December 11, 2013, 01:37:28 PM »
I 'll wait and see first. 
  • If it really only fixes the bug listed in the descirpotion, I don't really need it.
  • If there are hidden changes, I would like to learn about them.
  • If there are hidden changes that cause compatibility issues with third-party gear I will skip it. See Nikon D5300 and DF issues with Sigma lenses and third-party batteries following Nikon FW-Updates. Those impacts were also not documented. I know, that is Nikon and here we talk Canon ... but still!

Exactly what i was goign to post.

So now we have to be wary of all canon updates...that just stinks.

The opteka batteries for the Eos M are SOOOOO much better than the canon brands that its just sad. Usability would drop significantly if they implemented a block.

Lenses / Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« on: November 30, 2013, 02:42:04 PM »
I would love to see a 85 mm with better optical performance even without IS.

Id like to see this as well, and hopefully it doesn't lose that super duper Af in the process. Its gotta lost that horrible purple fringing...its very bad

EOS Bodies / Re: 6d, canon refurb issues, and AFMA results
« on: November 30, 2013, 02:30:48 PM »
Unfortunately i dont have any lamps that could get me that kind of setup- so ill have to go purchase one from home depot  and ive ordered a much longer usb cable.

However i also made the decision to send the body back- canon will swap it ( after a 30 minute long tirade to sales and tech.) The insanity i went through with the 7d, i cant go through that again.

ill update when i get the new body in, likely by next weekend, an ill resume testing.

I appreciate the assist guys.

EOS Bodies / Re: Black Friday Special: Refurb 7D or 70D NEW
« on: November 30, 2013, 02:24:25 PM »
70d > 7d even just for image quality alone.

6d and action? Forget it. Even if the AF could handle it, the mushy direction pad makes switching af points very inaccurate. The pad feels better when it's broken in a bit.

Beyond that i think we all wish we has 5d3's...

EOS Bodies / Re: 6d, canon refurb issues, and AFMA results
« on: November 29, 2013, 02:17:12 PM »
It's hard to say.  I suggest you rerun the tests and follow the setup guidelines a bit more closely to improve your results.  Your light levels are below the 8ev minimum recommended.  I typically calibrate with light in the 10ev to 11ev range.  Your target isn't level in the tests either - it helps to level both the target and camera.  Your target distances are also outside the recommended ranges.  Suggested distance for calibration is 50x focal length, or in a range from 25x-50x.  You are a bit long on the 24mm side - 1.6m vs 0.6m - 1.2m recommended and short on 105mm side - 2.0m vs 2.6m to 5.2m recommended.  I also find that target print quality can greatly affect the results.  I've tried a few different papers and ink settings to get the highest contrast targets.

Using the recommended setup I achieve excellent result confidence with both a new 6D and refurb 6D on the 24-105L and several other lenses.  The results are pretty consistent on both bodies, within 1 AFMA at both 24mm (1,2) and 105mm (0,1). I also verify the autofocus with a LensAlign tool that I got before FoCal.   

Ive basically done the best that i could with the usb length that i have. its not that long at all. That would be quite a bit of light to hit ev10- and im in a white walled room with windows to the right of the target setup- how did you manage to achieve that level of light? (at night i blast the target with a small flashlight).

It was pretty disheartening to look at the raws from a demo 6d and find the images were immediately noticeably better.

Im takign it around the block to see what i get form some real world sceneariosn

EOS Bodies / 6d, canon refurb issues, and AFMA results
« on: November 28, 2013, 11:11:44 AM »
I recently purchase a 6d from canon refurb sale. Tested it out, image quality sucked. AF was totally off, even after focal and hand AFMA. I compared shots taken from a bh demo unit, with no edited settings besides raw. Immediately noticeably better. I prepare a whole folder for canon repair to look at.

The choice was to send it back or have them fix it. I've need a replacement for my junked 7d I sold a while ago. I chose to fix it. Jus got it back, took some shots, then focal. Here are the results.

Minimal info on the repair sheet - AF adjustments.

These are twice as good as the blur city it was originally. But it doesn't look great, especially not full frame great. Admittedly, the pictures do look a lot better and it harder to argue it, but look at those results...like soft. To less soft. In comparison, before it went back the settings came back -9 -9 for this sharp copy of 24-105.

I will not an do not conduct image quality test after image processing, so no I won't be running them through lightroom or dpp to see how much better they can get. I expect good images out of camera.

Lastly, every image I work with is viewed at 100 percent and similar settings, so there is no deviation.

What do you guys think? More details to come.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: The opposite of a good deal
« on: November 26, 2013, 08:27:12 PM »
Did Canon's online store ever offer price matching? In most cases, Manufacturer's own stores can't offer price matching, as it would impact their retailers unfavorably. Why would one sign on as a retailer if the manufacturer could undercut you at any corner?

The best deals I've seen (so far...) were 20% off the refurb price, which is already 20% off the full retail price. You net a 36% discount off retail.

THIS. ^^^

I grabbed one of the 6d's that was 20% off. total was 1350 after tax (1230 before- wowza) . I didnt want one, but for its FF performance and that price- i couldnt say no. I debated sending it back and buying a 70d, but im glad i didnt.

All isnt roses though- canon sold me a 6D with super-busted Af. Its now in the shop. gyaddamnit.

Buyer beware- canon does a LOUSY job of proofing their equipment with their testing. The first 50 1.4 i got from them was so atrocious that i felt like i was scammed.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: EOS M & Lens Sale at B&H Photo
« on: November 26, 2013, 08:21:31 PM »
Agree on the 85/1.8 - great value now at an even better price!.
Value on the 85? Don't think so. I bought this lens for 379 2 years ago. There's no deal to be had here.

So, $335 isn't 12% cheaper than $379?  You're right, no deal at all.   ::)

heh, didnt have time to edit- i meant, relatively speaking. Its definitely cheaper, but compared to 419...i see they did there :P

I bought my 50 1.4 for the same price too.

My opinion alone- the 85 1.8 is the greatest lens i could live without. Ridiculously quick Af. But the character of the lens..meh. Very flat contrast and just not that awesome, imho. Worst of all, all that damn purple fringing drove me nuts, especially wide open. i occasionally filter down all my shots to a certain lens to see what ive been doing with it. and unfortunately for me, the 85 just wasnt working for me. I hope others are enjoying it.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: EOS M & Lens Sale at B&H Photo
« on: November 26, 2013, 12:13:19 PM »
Agree on the 85/1.8 - great value now at an even better price!

I'm not planning on getting the EF-M 18-55mm as a standalone purchase.  However, if I get the M2, I'll want the 18-55 kit. My plan would be to have my current M converted to IR, and my zooms in that range (16-35 II, 24-70 II) are known to have IR hotspot issues, so I'd usually use the -M prime on the M2 for portability, and the -M zoom on the IR-M for versatility.

Value on the 85? Don't think so. I bought this lens for 379 2 years ago. There's no deal to be had here.

Also, i understand it, but its a bit disingenuous to state that someones saving 300 bucks on something that's been selling for 350 for months now. AND its on clearance. But a stores gotta do what its gotta do i guess :P

The only real 'deals' ive seen lately was a flash sale on the 28/2.8 IS a while back, and the current 10-22 which i price-stalked for over a year before i bought a used version for 530 almost a year ago. Right now i have it attached to the M- its a great combo.

Im a huge fan of the 22/f2. I rented the 24/1.4 for generally the same effect on my rebel and the focus was so busted that it has been scratched off of my list. I just wish that 22/f2 had IS. The M being so light and all, with no real grip, mean s a lot of hand shake.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Any reason to choose a 7D over a 70D?
« on: November 21, 2013, 06:36:38 PM »
Here's a very handy noise comparison chart from The Digital Picture:

Thanks for that link PWP.  It's interesting to see how little progress has been made in crop sensor performance since the T2i came out.  It confirms my own comparison between my T2i and my 7D.  Judging from my photos, they seem to have the same sensor.  And judging from the information at the link you posted, the 70D is extremely similar.  I'm very glad I have a 5D3. :)

the 7d DOES NOT have the same sensor as the t2i. The 70d's image quality is at least as good as the t2i, and outclasses both in iso performance.

As the reigning pixel peeper supreme, the t2i's sensor is superior. the 7d has severe iso issues. I guess my eyes are better :)

For the record, soooooo many people post their cleaned up, shrunken images to show how good thier shots are. For my uses, which is design down to the pixel, those kinds of examples are useless.

post 100% screen shots of those unprocessed raw files. Then u will see which is better.

Technical Support / Re: How do I order print online?
« on: November 20, 2013, 09:03:53 PM »
thats softie file seems that the Af completely 'missed'.

I have quite a few of files like that from a 6d thats going back to the shop. Thanks canon :(

Lenses / Re: 70-200mm F 2.8 IS 2 VS 70-200mm F4 IS
« on: November 19, 2013, 05:15:08 PM »
the 2.8 version is my favorite lens that i have ever used.

The TRUTH right there

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 18, 2013, 01:52:19 PM »
My 2c

The 70d feels like a great camera in use. The plastic-ness was very off-putting at first handle- same like the 60d. Playing with it and taking sample images yesterday gave me a much better impression. I can only wonder at what the 7d 2 will be like- that's gotta be a killer.

Hmm- smaller things though will probably be the return of the spot Af mode?

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