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Canon General / Re: Benefits of a mirrorless FF?
« on: October 23, 2013, 04:18:29 AM »
Well if you go with the new Sony you will save a ton on lens......because there aren't any.

They do seem to have an ambitious plan with zeiss, but the lenses are slower compared to Canon / Nikon which have multiple variants for the same FL.

Nevertheless, there is a difference in a zeiss lens and a zeiss branded lens. Sony has been using zeiss branded lenses for a while now and I'm not too sure which one is the real outstanding one.

Canon General / Re: Benefits of a mirrorless FF?
« on: October 23, 2013, 04:16:34 AM »

And what incentive would Canon have to produce a body that gives new life to the secondary market of used FD lenses?

None whatsoever - Canon didn't even consider making an adapter (which is getting the wows from the mirrorless crowd) for the FD lenses  ;)

Canon General / Re: Benefits of a mirrorless FF?
« on: October 23, 2013, 04:13:48 AM »
I'm just wondering as to what exactly are the benefits of a mirrorless FF?

One of the most appealing aspects of the full-frame mirrorless (as far as I have read, anyhow) is that you can essentially use any manual full-frame lens ever produced, SLR or rangefinder, via adapter.  (Admittedly, you can do this on APS-C as well, but now your hyperfocal marks would all be accurate!)

I'm not too sure how this will work out in the long run. Adapters have their own issues which will be more apparent once you get into high MP cameras. The problem is compounded with FF cameras where corner sharpness while using an adapter suffers.

If adapters had no downsides at all, you wouldn't find Canon users yearning for a 14-24 - they would have simply purchased the Nikon 14-24 with an adapter - I know a few who use this combination but they would still like to have a native lens because the IQ is not as good as it can be.

Canon General / Re: Benefits of a mirrorless FF?
« on: October 23, 2013, 04:08:11 AM »

I feel if you got into mirrorless system, pls buy some native lenses with it. I'm not trying to open another debate, but I just don't see the point buying mirrorless system + L lenses. I clearly understood the points using as backup, not get into another set of lenses etc...but mirrorless + L lenses will take away the purpose of mirrorless. I rather get another DSLR as a backup if that is the case.

Agreed. I've been wondering how the balance would be if I were to use a 400 gm body with the 70-200 II

Canon plz we are waiting omg omg omg omg omg omg

Haha ... I though am not too keen on the A7R. This MP monster will need the best of the best lenses and exceptionally good shooting technique. A tripod may also be necessary which makes the smaller form factor irrelevant. It could very well end up like the D-800E with users as frustrated and emotional as the lady in your photograph  ;D

I'm not too sure you'll be able to extract the best out of the A7R with lenses that are used with adapters. The use of an adapter will deteriorate lens performance which, even if very slight, will result in a hit on the IQ. Unless Sony matches these cameras with exceptional native lenses, I don't see the A7R going anywhere.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: In the market for a mirrorless
« on: October 21, 2013, 03:39:57 AM »

I find it curious that everyone else is recommanding the multi lenses systems. Am I the only weirdo who's ok with his second system havin 1 focal?

No  ;D

My idea of a mirrorless camera is primarily a weight and smaller form factor advantage. This will be perfect for family outings and/or where carrying a huge backpack isn't such a good idea. So, as a personal preference a second system with a single 50mm lens is fine by me.

For interchangeable lenses, I already have a fully stocked kit. To me, it makes no sense in trying to save a few grams while carrying 4-5 lenses. I might as well buy a much lighter tripod  ;)

Canon General / Benefits of a mirrorless FF?
« on: October 21, 2013, 02:55:14 AM »

I do photography for a hobby and am not too updated on the technical aspects of the latest lineup of cameras  these days.

I'm just wondering as to what exactly are the benefits of a mirrorless FF? The only benefit to my mind is a shaving off of approximately 600-800 grams from the bodyweight. And yes, maybe with a dedicated lens lineup, a bit more.


Cheers ... J.R.

Lenses / Re: Protective filter for 24-70 II - standard or thin?
« on: October 19, 2013, 01:56:42 AM »
Do the lens caps fit with the B+W nano filters?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sony A7 or A7R pre-order list
« on: October 16, 2013, 10:47:25 PM »
I'm curious, did any Canon shooter place pre-order on Sony A7/A7R? or will buy it in near future?

I did and I feel like a "lonely wolf" here... ::)

Good luck with the A7.  I like your reason of getting one. Will wait for your reviews on this one in particular.

Personally, I'll wait for the lens collection to grow before getting one of these. I hope the system works and Sony gets its act together on the lenses which are smaller and lighter.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no point in using my L lenses with an adapter on the A7. The whole point of Mirrorless will be lost if all I save is a few grams in weight.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D sensor dust in one month?
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:02:19 PM »
Btw: Does it make a difference to set dust auto-cleaning to on, i.e. cleaning on every shutdown or is this about the same effect as manually activating the sensor shake now and again?

In my limited experience ... No difference. The only thing that makes a difference is a manual clean mode with the rocketblower

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D sensor dust in one month?
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:00:54 PM »
the 5D3 has an improved auto sensor cleaning over the 5D2 while the 1Dx uses a different technology

Where did you get this info from? Anything on the 6D?

The EOS M I bought from B&H during the sale came with the new firmware and it still had a maddening lag; for that reason, along with the unreliable focusing and lack of a viewfinder, I recently sold it.  Yes, it can take excellent photos, and yes, in that sense it was an amazing bargain, but for me it wasn't worth the annoyance; compared to my Olympus E-M5 the whole experience was an irritating joke.  Surely Canon can do better; perhaps they will.
Of course Canon can do better. But tbh, I think they are somewhat terrified of the mirrorless market. The EOS M is a living proof of that.

I think it's all about desperately trying to protect and stick to their current market segmentation.

But dear Canon, now Sony (and soon others) is going to take a bite of your lunch.

Canon is actually making money on electronics, even while the camera market is shrinking.  Sony, on the other hand, is losing money.  Lots of it.  Sony's electronics division has lost $8.5 billion.  The reason they are still in business is that they make money on insurance (mostly) and movies and music.  Otherwise they would be in a deep hole. 

Canon isn't desperate or terrified about anything.  They are doing quite well with a wide range of popular products.  Nearly every videographer I see is shooting Canon and has 2 or 3 Canon bodies and a bag full of Canon lenses.  The EOS M is proof of nothing more than a first effort.

I hope the A7/A7r is a huge success as it is a great idea.  The size, features and pricing look just right.

Wait ... You haven't heard of Blackberry or Nokia yet  :o ... These two cameras (lenses unknown) spell doomsday for Canon ::)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D sensor dust in one month?
« on: October 16, 2013, 02:32:06 PM »
I feel your pain.  I spent over 3 hours retouching sensor dust artifacts out of macro photos for an upcoming book and ALL of them were from my 5DII.  My 5DIII seems to be 100% better and I change lenses a lot outdoors, so I'm surprised to hear that your 6D is having trouble.

I don't get this - why would there be any reason at all for the 5d3 being better at resisting sensor dust than 5d2 (or 6d)? Btw my 6d also already collected dust, but only the small stuff visible at f11+ ... I really hope this is not a systematic problem.

My 6D is dusty too while my 5D3 is clean.  To think of it,  I bought the 6D only because I didn't like to change lenses and avoid dust on the sensor  :'(

Lenses / Re: Protective filter for 24-70 II - standard or thin?
« on: October 16, 2013, 02:29:00 PM »
I'm sure you won't use a cheap filter, but look at this post that just popped up on LensRental's blog about the 24-70II:

Thanks!  Roger is as informative as ever!

Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« on: October 16, 2013, 02:11:34 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression
That is not compression, it is perspective!

+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.

PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I.  I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.   ;)


Thanks...  Never read that post because I became a member in 2013.

BTW...  So you did enjoy the Chocolate Stout!   ;D

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