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I am using the photozone data, BUT I am using the crop frame boarder (not extreme corner) resolution data and extrapolating it to the full frame data. This essentially mimics a 40 megapixel sensor at the half way point of the frame which is an extremely accurate way of measuring considering we're dealing with a 36 MP sensor. Most of Nikon's lenses are barley resolving two thirds the resolution at this point so it's safe to say that they wouldn't take advantage of 36 megapixels over the majority of the frame.

i would say post an example.
take the sweetspot of the lens and post your calculation.

i mean as engineer you know that people like to see hard numbers not just talk.   ;)

A long time ago I thought I remembered, reading or hearing, that 8MP was the goal or benchmark. That at 8MP this was the number that would be most analogous to film.

What IS the MP count- or is the question more complicated then this?

well i don´t know what is the truth.... but i read everything from 8 - 45 million pixel.

edit:  well there is one guy (but i don´t give him more credit then my dog on photographic things) that wrote the following:

Since the lie factor factor from digital cameras is about two, you'd need a digital camera of about 87 x 2 = 175 MP to see every last detail that makes onto film.

i don´t want to support the guy so i don´t give the source.. i think some here can guess.  ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D Mark III: Some perspectives/concerns
« on: March 04, 2012, 05:17:05 PM »

Being a big fan of Ken Rockwell and his website of "many things", I do agree with his perspective that camera bodies in general become obsolete the day they are released, much akin to driving a new car off the lot. Therefore, it is critical that enough people buy this new camera such that the support is maintained and resale value and demand stays high.

I also agree with his recommendation of pre-ordering ASAP, as there tends to be huge waiting lists, and potential fluctuations in prices down the road (boy.. I feel almost like I'm playing the stock market now!). I should note that the Amazon pre-orders for D800 dried up in pretty much a day.. not sure on the Mark III but most of the brick-and-mortar stores in Toronto have pre-orders available as of today and on their websites

there is one reason ken "beggar" rockwell is saying that... so that he makes money from the noobs who visit his website and go to amazon etc. from his links.

i would never preorder a 3000$ camera without reading some proper reviews about it or look at it first hand in a store.

i don´t need to be the first to have it.. i need to make a informed decision.

and i really would not mention ken rockwell when people shall take you serious!!
i don´t know a photographer with a worse reputation on the net.....

EOS Bodies / Re: I hope 5dx , 45 million pixels
« on: March 03, 2012, 11:23:34 AM »
I hope 5dx , 45 million pixels the 5d3 improve high sense , in practical applications , the effect is very poor, very poor results, we understand , so I was waiting , and D800 with the level of ...

very poor results yeah.. i wonder how people can make money with such poor results..

kid... show me a dslr that has poor results these days.

now troll back into your cave...

EOS Bodies / Re: 5dmkIII- No video autofocus?
« on: March 02, 2012, 07:09:34 PM »

I'm so sick of this meaningless platitude: "well anyone who's SERIOUS about (videography/photography) doesn't do this, or use this." Why are there so many photographers and videographers who are actually posting this crap?

because it´s true.
only because everybody can film 1080p today that does not mean they know what they are doing...

the web is full of crap videos.

and i really love the AF hunting in videos, it looks so professionell....  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Videographers happy with 5D Mark III?
« on: March 02, 2012, 06:58:47 PM »
-720 is worthless.

No 1080 @ 60 is the dealbreaker at the $3500 pricetag.

well then you can only buy sony as it seems.
good luck with that!

uncompressed video... well i doubt most users will hardly notice a difference.
and if your going pro and you really see the difference in the end result and think you need uncompressed don´t go D800 or 5D MK3 either (imo).

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?
« on: March 01, 2012, 08:36:55 AM »
To be honest, I think that the price tag is looking a bit steep considering that this is the camera that the MkII should have been! The rest of the specifications need to be top notch, or people will start to ask why this is so much more expensive than the D800 (not that they won't ask that anyway -and be justified in doing so).

well some losers & whiners you can´t satisfy....

i will order my 5D MK3 and enjoy it that is for sure....

EOS Bodies / Re: The (un)official I'm switching to Nikon thread
« on: February 29, 2012, 04:40:32 PM »
This might give a hint on where we're headed:


so what nikon developed sensor your are speaking about

EOS Bodies / Re: The (un)official I'm switching to Nikon thread
« on: February 29, 2012, 04:38:04 PM »
Canon's is being eaten alive by Nikon and Sony in sensor technology.

so what nikon developed sensor your are speaking about?

Lenses / Re: 70 - 200 f/4L vs. 70 - 300 f4-5.6 IS USM
« on: February 28, 2012, 05:10:52 PM »
  My experience with the 70-200 was that it was very sharp and contrasty (that "L look") from 70 to about 135 or so, even wide open.  But beyond that it quickly deteriorated, so that beyond 150 it was, in my opinion, unusable at any aperture. 

well i call that BS or a very bad exemplar.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 high ISO noise samples
« on: February 24, 2012, 08:07:23 AM »
.... i dont think  5DX will compete against D800.

People are going to do the same test as D700 Vs 5DII by re sampling to match .. i dont think 5DX will stand...for 3500$ definitely not worth buying 5DX compared to D800. wht you guys think?.

and your inside view about that is based on... what?


EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DX/III really being announced on 27/28 Feb?
« on: February 24, 2012, 07:09:37 AM »
Is the 5DX/III really being announced on 27/28 Feb? There has been little real evidence such as leaks/press invites etc. We're just some hours away from the proposed date and things seem a little quiet  :o

what do you expect beside more guesswork?    ::)


From the suggested specs, it would seem that there has been almost no improvements/benefits to the video element of the new 5D3/X about to be announced shortly.

There seems to have been no improvement with regards to: Moire, aliasing, rolling shutter, higher frame rates - In fact it would seem pretty much the same standard as the trusty 5D2.

Videographers who purchased the 5D2 for its video capabilities and not to use it for stills will probably be content to leave the 5D3/x completely alone and save a fortune by sticking with the 5D2. I know I will.

An extra CF card slot won't tempt me, that's for sure. I just hope for Canon's sake that there's a lot of photographers out there wanting to buy it!

i wonder if it is always the same troll or where are they coming from?

Lenses / Re: Canon 200-400mm f4 lens - worth waiting for?
« on: February 23, 2012, 09:59:12 AM »
I see this new lens has a provisional price of 11000USD!!!
The Nikon 200-400 is available now for 7000USD.
That is a 4000 extra charge by Canon for a built in super duper 1.4X teleconverter - unbelievable!!

well a ferrari F50 has only 4 wheels, same as my mercedes... yet it cost a lot more.

honest, you try to judge a product without knowing a *hit about it.   ;)

i would advice to wait a bit until we have seen tests.. then it´s early enough to compare it to the nikon lens.

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:33:04 AM »
Sorry I couldnt see the bit about low light? Am i missing it?

it´s ONE example.... that´s what your missing.

i have a magazin somewhere where they made a similiar test with higher ISO´s.
you can go to 1600-3200 ISO and see no difference in A4 prints (550D vs 5D MK2).

now if low light starts at 6400 for you that might be different.. sure.
but then only 5-6% of my images are shoot above iso 3200 so i don´t care much.

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