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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 26, 2012, 05:58:34 AM »
perhaps i am splitting hairs or maybe in this case eyelashes

first image is dpp preview crop screen shot
second image is acr6.7 crop screen shot

shot at f2.8 1/500 sec ISO 100 AWB
these are 100% crops
obviously 5D mk3 and lens is the 50mm f1.4 canon

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:56:01 AM »
[Suggest you go to the Canon Learning Center....a number of wrieups by Rudy on 1DX and 5D3 AF....should help you get as good with new system as you seem to be with the 1Dmk3


thanks for the tip I read the article, sounds perhaps that my standard method of using single point AF might be the problem and focus is getting lost as the model walks towards me with AF points not handing over to other points properly, from his description this area AF might be a good solution, i'll give it a try. It seems the new AF system is vastly more complex than the system i replaces and there is a bit of a learning curve with it.

Lighting / Re: 580ex II or 600EX-RT
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:25:14 AM »
Soooooooo overpriced. You can do ETTL with Phottix Odins and a couple of 430 EX IIs. You can put the two 430s together and get a way faster recycle or separate them for more flexibility. If you want more of the Canon system you have to buy more overpriced 600s. Crazy.

One Canon flash and one transmitter is $1000!!!!

One Odin transmitter + 2 receivers + 2 430 EXs = $1000.

Additional Canon flash = $630
Additional 430 EX II + receiver = < $400
Additional 580 EX II  + receiver = $590

Not to mention it's not hard to get Canon flashes used.
basically what he said

I have the odins they are really nice to use and the transmitter has a nice on screen interface where you can quickly adjust power of groups, group balancing etc

EOS Bodies / Re: So frustrated with new 5DmkIII - returning it!
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:00:06 AM »
oh dear I'm going to be testing the 580s tonight! I've only done some test shots with a 600 I borrowed from someone so far!

i have been blown away by the low light focusing on the 5Dmk3
it does slow down considerably but it actually locks on and is accurate
heres a little 3200 sample

EOS Bodies / Re: Does new DPP have a bug?
« on: March 26, 2012, 12:24:35 AM »
is anyone else noticing that ACR6.7 is softening the images compared to the DPP quickview as well.
currently there is no reliable way to process images from the 5D3 to equal the output of the 5Dmk2 :(
Its all a plot to make us smile even harder when the software does exist lol.
I certainly hope you are right

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:53:54 PM »
I never do jpeg.  Raw results using DNG 6.7RC to LR 4 are giving great results. 

are you able to post a sample?
do you have a 5D2?
if so is ACR6.7 giving you results as sharp as the 5Dmk2 does?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:40:11 PM »
This really surprises me. I just read in another post that you are using f/1.4 lenses. Thats an extremely thin DOF your working with there. Unless something has changed, don't Canon cameras AF at maximum aperture? I would be very surprised if you had GOOD luck with even the 1D X AF with its 100k RGB intelligent meter and an f/1.4 lens. You should slap on an f/2.8 lens, an f/4 lens, and an f/5.6 lens, and let us know how AF works then. I would hope the double-cross type sensors with the f/2.8 should nail focus perfectly every time. I'd expect the other 36 cross-type points to do extremely well keeping focus on a moving subject like a bird, a cyclist, a car or a basket ball player at f/4 and f/5.6.
I was using fast lenses but had them stopped down to f2.8 for shooting. typically when using AI servo I dont like to go wider than 2.8 for this reason

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:36:48 PM »

1) Are the raw files just soft, or terrible in other respects?

2) Is it the smearing of the details that makes the jpegs so bad?

I hope this is just an issue with the DPP software.

1) Raw files in DPP preview look sharpand show lots of detail, when i preview in bridge with ACR6.7 installed they are noticably softer and editing in DPP much softer, opening in PS also softer than the DPP preview. Colour all looks really good, The detail has to be in the file, as it displays in the DPP preview so i'm not too concerned about the senor being a lemon. I feel its almost entirely related to the processing software not being right rather than a sensor thing.

2) the jpegs look awefull IMO, like heavy handed NR is being applied to iso100 files. sure NR the hell out of 25600 iso images in camera but there should be 0 NR applied to iso 100 jpgs. If i took a 5D2 raw file at iso 100 in topaz denoise and applied an overall noise reduction value of maybe 60 this would be similar to the jpegs out of camera, my typical use of denoise values are around 20-30 if i'm correcting 1600 iso to 3200 iso, i may sometimes pop a value of 5 on a portrait as it does a nice job cleaning up skin in a very subtle way that is not noticable as being post processed. (these are observations based on the standard settings the camera comes with, I dont work with jpegs at all other than to flick to people for a quick preview and usually i will downsize those to 1024x768 anyway if i'm going to email them. On my 5Dmk2 i record medium jpegs which are 10MP for this purpose on my 1Dmk3 i leave the jpegs full size which is also 10 or 11 MP.

Overall I'm very glad I didnt sell my 5D2s just in case, I really hope these issues get resolved soon as I'm going to china soon and really wanted to put this thing through its paces. At least i know i can rely on the 5Dmk2s anyway. I wont be shooting any paid work with the 5Dmk3 untill i'm 100% happy it can meet the 5Dmk2 standard though.

EOS Bodies / Re: Post your C1, C2, C3 settings
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:18:27 PM »
Something I've been wondering, there is all this wasted space on the dial, why not have more than 3 C positions?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:16:35 PM »
4. AF isnt as good as i was expecting in AI servo but I'm still playing with it (there are lots of settings to play with and test) so i'll have to reserve judgement on this but as for just turning it on and shooting with AI servo in standard mode the 1Dmk3 still eats it alive both in speed and accuracy :(
Perhaps I am doing something wrong maybe 7D users have some tips on getting the most from these new AF systems in AI servo.

Ack! Don't say that. I was hoping AF would be it's saving grace and reports had been generally really good so far.
What sport were you shooting?

(I just noticed you were using 50mm 1.4 and sigma 85 1.4, I don't know anything about the sigma, but the Canon 50mm 1.4 always seemed like an erratic lens to me for sports AI Servo. Where you comparing 50 1.4 on 5D3 to 70-200 2.8 on 1D3? I hope. Although if the 50 1.4 does noticeabyl worse on the 5D3 than the 1D3 that doesn't sound hot.)

lol Sport!? haha I was shooting my wife strolling towards me on a beach using standard mode selected spot focus, first trying outer points and then center point only, on the screen it looks like a high keeper rate but on the computer not so much. But Like I said I really need to spend alot more time playing with this AF there are ALOT of settings and i need to try AI servo with the 70-200 f2.8 and 300 f4L which i know work brilliantly on the 1Dmk3. But over the weekend the only lenses i was using were the sigma 85 1.4 the canon 50 1.4 and the canon 16-35 f2.8L II

EOS Bodies / Re: Does new DPP have a bug?
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:01:53 PM »
is anyone else noticing that ACR6.7 is softening the images compared to the DPP quickview as well.
currently there is no reliable way to process images from the 5D3 to equal the output of the 5Dmk2 :(

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 10:43:37 PM »
This is a AF system new to many of us. We will first have to patiently master it before we overreact and think the world is ending.

I'm not overreacting, agree totally that I need to spend more time with the AF to get a handle on it there are so many more options and settings to be considered thats just for starters!

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DMIII Whats the verdict?
« on: March 25, 2012, 10:31:38 PM »
so far I absolutely love the size, build quality handling, viewfinder, speed and versitility
but i'm quite concerned the image quality is lower than the 5Dmk2 but i think I have to wait until
decent raw converters are available.
IMO the jpegs out of camera are next to useless

EOS Bodies / Re: So frustrated with new 5DmkIII - returning it!
« on: March 25, 2012, 10:23:11 PM »
Re: rate button

Have any of you had to take photos and turn in "several good ones for web use" to sports information at halftime of a basketball game? I receive my 5D3 on Wednesday next week, and I am so hoping that the rate button will work by simply pressing it twice to give a default 1-star rating to a photo. If it requires pressing the button and selecting a rating with another knob, then yes, that will be extremely irritating.

Right now my workflow is like this:

* During the first half I have to be chimping after any major play, and if a photo is good or a play is good if I don't have time to chimp, then I take a blank picture of the floor after that sequence of photos containing the good photo.
* 1-3 minutes before half time I have to run to the media room, download all photos, look at them in thumbnail mode, scroll through the ones before the blank floor pictures, and then star the ones I want to turn in.
* Select and export the starred photos.
* Give flash drive to sports information about 15 minutes of wasted time, if I'm lucky.

Assuming that I can just do a quick double "click" of the rate button to assign it a 1-star default rating (the stars aren't important, because I'm not rating them, just indicating that I want to turn them in to SI), then the rate button would be a tremendous boon to me. I could lesiurely go to the media room, download photos, export the starred photos, and walk back with flash drive in hand in under 5 minutes.

Hopefully I can even have a direct ethernet connection so that someone else can use my pictures live, but I am not sure if I would be happy with that. Some people don't realize that every click of the shutter on a professional camera does not necessarily a cover photograph make. Letting someone else select photos would probably result in a bad representation of my work.

Anyway, I just thought that I would speak out in favor of what hopefully is going to be a good feature for me.

good explanation, I never shoot sport so never have that issue typically i find trying to identify if images are good or not on the screen is quite difficult.
It would be nice if they made the ability to assign other funtions to that button so people that will never use the rate button in their life can make it usefull for their purposes.

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