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EOS Bodies - For Stills / NAB 2012: Canon Shows the Goods
« on: April 17, 2012, 01:47:23 PM »
Canon at NAB Show 2012
As expected Canon had one of, if not the biggest booth on the NAB Show floor. Most of their video cameras, DSLRs and lenses were on display to play with.

Canon Cinema EOS 1D C

Canon EOS 1D C
A couple of the 1D C’s were around to play with. They were attached to external monitors and you can play around with things like ISO and get a good idea about that kind of performance. The 1D C showed some pretty exceptional ISO via the HDMI out. We weren’t allowed to put cards into the camera, which is normal.

The camera looks exactly like the 1D X, other than not having the flash sync port.

Not much was said about the internals of the 1D C, which differ greatly from the 1D X. Most of which is used to displace the immense heat the 4K capture would create inside the body.

Availability was “sometime in 2012″.

Canon EOS C500
I couldn’t get within 10 feet of the thing. There were hordes of people around it listening to product descriptions and technical info from the folks at Canon.  Again, the video out to the overhead monitors looked great, but we didn’t really get to see the 4K output from the camera.

Another “sometime in 2012″ for availability.

The new prototype CINE zooms and primes

All the new cine lenses were on display. The newly announced 15.5-45 and 30-105 lens mockups were also present. The new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II was on display behind glass, I didn’t see a place to get my hands on it. What I didn’t see were the new EF 24 f/2.8 IS and EF 28 f/2.8 IS lenses. However, there are hordes of people always crowding the counters at the Canon booth and maybe they were hiding.

Canon's prototype 4K display

4K Displays
Canon showed off their prototype 4K displays again, and they really are pretty great to look at it. No one could answer if or when they’d make it to market, and there are no mention of price if they did. They were displaying 4K footage from both the C500 and 1D C on the screens.

5D Mark III Issue As expected, no one at the Canon booth wanted, or was allowed to talk about the issue with the 5D Mark III. I still haven’t heard about any possible recourse for the issue yet. I would expect it pretty soon though.

I also asked about firmware, and was told there was new firmware on the way, but it could have been delayed while Canon investigates the top LCD AE issue.

The magnesium alloy shell of the Canon EOS-1D X

Other cool things
Above is the magnesium alloy shell of the Canon EOS-1D X. It was pretty amazing to feel how light it is. The Canon rep at the  display agreed with me that they should sell just the shell. People would buy it for sure.


Final Cut Pro X Evolving
Apple met with video consultant Larry Jordan very recently prior to NAB 2012. The discussing lead to some information what we can expect in 2012 for Apple’s Final Cut Pro X.

Coming in 2012

  • Multichannel Audio Editing Tools
  • Dual Viewers
  • MXF Plug-in Support
  • RED camera support

Apple appears to be working hard on changing the perception that they don’t care about the pro market with Final Cut Pro X.

Read more at Larry Jordan’s blog

Source: [MR]


EOS Bodies / Re: my first video shoot with 5Dmark3 In NYC
« on: April 14, 2012, 10:26:22 PM »
Well done

EOS Bodies / Canon EOS 5D Mark III Product Advisory
« on: April 13, 2012, 03:47:48 PM »

To Users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera

Thank you for using Canon products.

The phenomenon described below has been confirmed when using the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera.

Canon is now examining the countermeasures and once the countermeasures are decided, we will post the information on our Web site.


In extremely dark environments, if the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change as a result of the AE sensor’s detection of light from the LCD panel.

Affected Product

Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera


Once the preparations are complete, we will be making an announcement on our Web site.

This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.

Please register the EOS 5D Mark III. By registering, we will be able to notify you via email when service updates are available. If you already registered, please ensure you are opted-in to receive the notification.

Source: [CUSA]

thanks Ken


I moved the info to the post about the 5D3 stock delay. Better it all in one place, shoulda done that originally.

Looks to just be something that is related to supply.


And a flood of LCD pressing and probing commences.:)

haha, true!

Roger from had this to say today about 3 new 5D Mark III’s they received directly from Canon.

Please read the entire two paragraphs.

I just got 3 new 5D IIIs this morning. Compared to the 90 some odd previous ones, the new ones all have a much thicker, stiffer plastic cover on the TOP (not main) LCD with a slightly larger black border. On all of the previous cameras the top LCD cover was thin enough that if you pressed on it firmly it would touch the LCD (apparent because the LCD under your finger would turn black for a second). The new cover is much stiffer and you can’t press hard enough to touch the LCD screen.

I can’t say this is the change that’s being made, but these recent camera came direct from Canon so it’s certainly possible. And it’s also possible that this simply means Canon used up all of their first supply of top LCD covers and the second is just slightly different for no real reason.

Roger and I are friends, and he knows gear about as well as anyone else I personally know.

Public Service Announcement Please don’t start pressing hard your top LCD covers. Thanks David 


Software & Accessories / New DPP Next Week
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:48:50 AM »
Canon Digital Photo Professional Update
We’re told a new version of DPP should be available for download by next Wednesday.

Included in the update will be bug fixes, better handling of 5D Mark III RAW files and a fully functional Lens Optimizer module.


EOS Bodies / *UPDATE* Canon EOS 5D Mark III Stock Delayed? [CR1]
« on: April 12, 2012, 02:49:10 PM »
There’s some news out there now, that some LCD covers on the top of 5D Mark IIIs differ from others. Some being quite stiff, others being flexible.

You can see the discussion at FredMiranda. 

We have confirmed new firmware for the 5D Mark III that addresses a few issues is coming very soon. Cameras could get held back for this reason. The firmware will for sure address the 200 f/2L IS and 800 f/5.6L IS issues.

I changed the title of this post from “recall” to “stock delayed”.

Lots more information is rolling in about this. Two of the retailers are BuyDig and Beach Camera which are one in the same. The story coming from them is the cameras have been held back “in case a recall is necessary”. However there is no mention as to why. The word “recall” may be the wrong word to describe the experience the retailer and customer had.

Canon Digital Photo Professional to blame?
Another theory I have heard is a new version DPP is coming out next week to address the issues with it and the 5D Mark III RAW files, and the cameras are being held back to get the new version into the boxes. We reported the issue with DPP last week.

I do NOT want to start a firestorm
I have received various reports of 5D Mark III shipments to retailers being cancelled. Retailers in the USA have told various preorder buyers that the cameras have been “recalled” and that an announcement would come next week.

I have no idea at this moment if this is true, or what the rumoured “recall” is about. Its out there on other message boards, so I have to post it here.

Please wait for an official announcement before treating this as fact. I have asked a few other retailers in Canada if they have heard anything, and for the moment the answer is “no”. Again, I have received the same story from 3 USA retailers and their customers.

There are 3 possibilities with this one.

  1. Retailers are being misquoted or the wrong use of the word “recall”
  2. The cameras are getting a firmware update before being released
  3. There is a hardware issue that needs to be resolved.

More info coming soon I’m sure.


From Canon We previously reported that the Canon EOS-1D X had been delayed until June and the new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II delayed until July, both have been confirmed delays by Canon themselves.

There was no real reason given for the production delays.


A Wide-Angle Cinema Zoom and a Telephoto Cinema Zoom, Available in EF- and PL-Mount Versions, Will Further Expand Canon’s Cinema EOS System of Professional Digital Cinematography Products

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., April 12, 2012 – Building upon the historic November 2011 introduction of the Cinema EOS System of professional digital cinematography products, Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leading in digital imaging solutions, today announced the development of four EF Cinema zoom lenses. Designed to deliver exceptional optical performance on 4K resolution Super 35mm-equivalent cameras, each of the four lenses features a compact, lightweight design to facilitate handheld and SteadicamTM shooting while also covering a wide range of focal lengths. Included are two wide-angle cinema zooms – the CN-E15.5-47mm T2.8 L S* (for EF mounts) and the CN-E15.5-47mm T2.8 L SP* (for PL mounts) – and two telephoto cinema zooms – the CN-E30-105mm T2.8 L S* (for EF mounts) and CN-E30-105mm T2.8 L SP* (for PL mounts).

“Canon’s introduction of EF- and PL-mount versions of the EOS C300 digital cinema camera was well received by the film and television production communities,” noted Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A. “The development of these EF- and PL-mount cinema zooms will help add to the rich diversity of creative imaging choices available to the many film and television professionals who have embraced the new Cinema EOS System.”

A leading maker of precision lenses for professional digital photography, broadcast HDTV sports and news coverage, and many other markets, Canon has leveraged its years of expertise as a world leader in optics and imaging to develop its latest EF Cinema lenses. These wide-angle and telephoto cinema zooms will be compatible with industry-standard Super 35 mm-equivalent cameras and are engineered to deliver exceptional optical performance to support 4K resolution digital filmmaking. The four lenses will perfectly complement the compact body design of Canon EOS digital cinematography cameras with their own compact, lightweight design featuring a form factor well-suited for hand-held use, or for mounting on Steadicam or other lightweight, highly mobile camera-support devices used for cinema verité, “run-and-gun” shooting, or other rapid-action filmmaking.

The developments of these EF Cinema lenses are essential to Canon’s Cinema EOS System of professional digital cinematography products, which include digital cinema cameras, a digital SLR camera, and a wide variety of advanced lenses. Canon will continue to enhance its Cinema EOS System product lineup to support diverse image creation in motion picture, television, and other high-resolution digital production industries. All of these products are designed to contribute to the continued advancement of tools for visual expression and express Canon’s commitment to cinematic culture.

Canon will be displaying prototypes of the cinema zoom lenses at NAB Show 2012, one of the world’s largest events for the video, broadcasting equipment and digital media industries, from April 16 to 19 in Las Vegas.

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., April 12, 2012 – Canon Inc. is developing two digital cinematography cameras as part of its acclaimed new Cinema EOS System of professional cinematography products. Designated as the Cinema EOS C500* for use with EF-mount lenses, and the Cinema EOS C500 PL* for use with PL-mount lenses, the cameras will be capable of originating 4K (4096 x 2160-pixel) resolution digital motion imagery with uncompressed RAW output for external recording, in response to growing expectations for higher levels of imaging performance in premium Hollywood films and other production markets requiring the utmost in picture quality.

“With the unveiling of our Cinema EOS System last November to great acclaim, Canon marked our full-fledged entry into the motion-picture production market,” stated Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A. “To further serve the needs of Hollywood’s premier filmmakers, Canon is developing the Cinema EOS C500 and Cinema EOS C500 PL digital cinematography cameras, which deliver the added benefit of full 4K motion-image capture to the Cinema EOS System.”

The 4K imaging format is emerging as the new standard for advanced effects and post-production in Hollywood, and it is particularly important for big-budget motion pictures that include scenes compositing live-action cinematography with high-resolution computer-generated imagery. The Cinema EOS C500/C500 PL digital cinematography cameras will not only support 4K-resolution video but also outputs this as a 10-bit uncompressed RAW data stream with no de-Bayering. The cameras offer the additional versatility of being able to output quad full-HD (3840 x 2160), 2K (2048 x 1080), full HD (1920 x 1080), and other imaging options. All of these digital image source formats fully conform to established SMPTE production standards. All 4K formats can be selected to operate from one to 60 frames per second. The cameras employ a 12-bit RGB 4:4:4 signal format during 2K output, which can be selected to operate from one to 60 frames-per-second (fps) as well. If switched to a 10-bit YCrCb 4:2:2 mode, the camera can operate up to 120 fps.

The Cinema EOS C500 simultaneously records in-camera a 50 Mbps HD proxy video to a CF card that is immediately available to support offline editing. Equipped with a newly developed Super 35mm-equivalent approximately 8.85-megapixel CMOS sensor, the cameras will be compatible with Canon’s wide range of interchangeable EF Cinema and PL-mount lenses and EF lenses for Canon SLR cameras. Highly mobile and compact for filmmaking versatility, the Cinema EOS C500/C500 PL digital cinematography cameras – like Canon’s Cinema EOS C300/C300 PL cinematography cameras – provide all of the same ergonomic features, except for the rotating hand grip.

Further details regarding the Cinema EOS C500/C500 PL digital cinematography cameras – including specifications and pricing – have yet to be decided. Plans call for these new products to be launched later this year. In addition to targeting a swift launch of these cameras, Canon will continue to enhance other components of its Cinema EOS System product lineup, which is designed to contribute to the continued advancement of tools for visual expression and the development of cinematic culture.

Canon will display a prototype of the Cinema EOS C500/C500 PL digital cinematography camera at the 2012 NAB Show in booth C4325 at the Las Vegas Convention Center from April 16 to 19.



Newest Addition to the Canon Cinema EOS Product Line Combines the Convenient Form Factor of a Digital SLR Camera with Full HD and 4K Video Recording up to 4096 x 2160-Pixel Resolution

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., April 12, 2012 – Continually advancing the frontiers of digital high-resolution motion-image capture for film, television, and other industries, Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today announced the EOS-1D C digital single-lens reflex (SLR) camera.* Delivering outstanding video performance, the compact, lightweight EOS-1D C provides video recording at 4K (4096 x 2160-pixel) or Full HD (1920 x 1080-pixel) resolution to support high-end motion picture, television production and other advanced imaging applications.

Equipped with an 18.1-megapixel full-frame 24mm x 36mm Canon CMOS sensor, the camera records 8-bit 4:2:2 Motion JPEG 4K video to the camera’s CF memory card at 24 frames-per-second (fps) or Full HD 1920 x 1080 video at selectable frame rates from 24p to 60p, making it possible for next-generation visual expression with even higher image-quality and resolution performance.

“The Canon EOS-1D C digital SLR camera was designed in response to the needs of filmmakers, television producers, and other high-level motion-imaging professionals,” stated Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A. “Not only does it combine 4K and Full HD video capture with a convenient design, its use of dual CF cards also offers an efficient workflow compatible with today’s post-production requirements.”

Creative Control

The Canon EOS-1D C digital SLR camera incorporates Canon Log Gamma to enable the recording of high-quality video with rich gradation expression, making possible the type of impressive image quality required in motion pictures by maximizing both highlight and shadow detail retention while also providing a high level of color-grading freedom. The EOS-1D C’s full-frame 24 x 36mm 18.1-megapixel Canon CMOS sensor makes possible a wide range of creative imaging expression, such as image-blur effects. Additional features include an expanded sensitivity range of up to ISO 25600 for exceptional motion-imaging results with reduced noise even in low-light settings. The camera’s ability to record 8-bit 4:2:2 4K and 8-bit 4:2:0 Full HD video to CF cards eliminates the need for an external recorder and enables workflows with increased mobility. If desired, however, captured video (excluding 4K video) can be output from the camera’s HDMI terminal to an external recorder using an uncompressed YCbCr 8-bit 4:2:2 signal.

4K video is captured by an approximately APS-H-sized portion of the full image sensor, while Full HD video can be captured in the user’s choice of two different imaging formats:

The standard Full HD setting captures the full 36mm width of the CMOS sensor to achieve the largest possible angle of view for any compatible lens.

An optional Super 35 crop setting enables cinematographers to match the industry-standard imaging format and angle of view achieved by traditional motion picture cameras. This enables video footage from the EOS-1D C camera to more closely match the look of footage from other cameras in multi-camera shooting environments.

Other useful video-related features on the EOS-1D C DSLR include a built-in headphone jack for real-time audio monitoring, and the ability to view the camera’s LCD even when the HDMI port is connected to an external monitor. The EOS-1D C camera uses the same LP-E4N battery pack as the EOS-1D X, and it can also be powered by an optional AC Adapter Kit.

The EOS-1D C camera ships with Canon software applications including EOS Utility, which enables various camera settings to be adjusted from a PC, and Picture Style Editor. These two personal computer applications enable users to view the camera’s live output on an external monitor1 and adjust the image in real-time to maximize shooting and post-production efficiencies. The software also ensures no loss of quality for 4K/Motion JPEG and full HD/60p video displayed on the external monitor, and it enables video shot with Canon Log Gamma to be output on the monitor with video gamma applied.

Versatility and Value

The Canon EOS-1D C camera can be used to capture still images with more than 60 interchangeable Canon EF and EF Cinema Lenses, all of which are designed to deliver exceptional image quality to maximize the potential for creative visual expression. The compact size and lightweight design of the camera make it easy to carry so it is highly mobile for convenient shooting inside automobiles and other confined spaces. Its compact size also enables peripheral equipment such as rails and cranes to be more compact, which can facilitate smoother handling and reduced costs on-set. The camera’s low-light capabilities can also help to minimize lighting costs and increase versatility for lighting. For added usability, record start/stop can be remotely controlled by EOS Utility Software via an optional Canon WFT-E6A Wireless File Transmitter.

Realizing the same exceptional still-image performance as the recently introduced Canon EOS-1D X digital SLR camera, the camera provides a sensitivity range of ISO 100-51200 for outstanding still-image results with reduced noise, even in dimly lit settings. Incorporating high-performance Canon Dual DIGIC 5+ image processors, the EOS-1D C delivers high-precision AF and AE performance while also enabling high-speed continuous shooting of up to approximately 12 fps. In the ultra-fast continuous shooting mode, the EOS-1D C provides a continuous shooting speed of up to approximately 14 fps (mirror remains raised during shooting; JPEG images only).

The Canon EOS-1D C digital SLR camera is scheduled to be available within 2012 at a suggested retail price of $15,000.

EOS Bodies / Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« on: April 11, 2012, 06:43:53 PM »

NAB 2012

Canon will be introducing two new cameras for NAB. I’ve been reading a lot of the tips coming in and trying to make sense of it, thankfully someone else has received some of the same information and has.

We should see an official announcement on Thursday.

Canon Cinema EOS 1D

  • Full Frame

  • ALL-I, IPB and MJPEG 4K.

  • Log Profiles

  • Super35 Crop Mode

  • Compatible with cinema lenses

  • Priced around $10,000

 Canon EOS C500

  • To compete with RED Epic

  • 4K at 120fps EOS RAW via 3G HD-SDI

  • At 60 fps EOS RAW from the C500 is 12 bit.

  • Priced around $35,000

New Cinema Lenses

  • 15.5-47mm T2.2

  • 30-105mm T2.2

I’ve seen a range in pricing between $12,000 and $20,000 for the above lenses.

Source: [EOSHD]


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