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EOS Bodies / Re: Projected MkIII vs MkII for landscape photography

« on: March 01, 2012, 08:19:14 PM »

If the DR and ISO improvements are what is expected, then I prefer the Mark III for the artistic headroom it will provide.

Even in tripod shots, you got the element of time - how soft or crisp will be the clouds? or the stars? or the time you have to capture a light beam in a dark slot canyon; or that stormy weather on top of a mountain?  Plus there are factors like DOF, HDR assemblies to contend with.

I dont have a 5D Mark II to compare.  But my experience with just getting a 70-200 IS II with 4-stop stabilization opened up a bunch of freedoms.  I suspect the new Canons will do the same in the form of artistic expression.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just preordered the 5DIII, price is definitely $3499.99

« on: March 01, 2012, 06:39:38 PM »

(one more attempt at posting)

Before Ted's Camera 5D Mark III link went down

I compared prices BH vs them to get ratios

The D800 is 79%  (BH - $3000 vs Teds - $3800)
The D4 is 76% (BH - 6000 vs Teds - $7900)
The 5D Mark II is 92% (BH - $2400 vs Ted's - $2600)

Ted's price 5D Mark III - $4200
Suggesting a range of $3200 - $3800 for the 5D Mark III.

Oh, The Ted's link did go down about 9:30 am their time... hmmm, wonder if they got a phone call
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 06:13:13 PM »

The Ted's Camera Store link is no longer active as around 9:30 am their time.

Did they get a phone call? 

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EOS Bodies / Re: The new 5D Mark III ?!?! PICS!

« on: February 28, 2012, 02:44:54 PM »

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the OP is either dead, in prison, or is being threaten with one or the other by the canon black-ops guys... 

I'll say intentional link.  The photographs were fairly well positioned with high value lenses + the 1DX and just the right level of interesting but not revealing detail cropped in.  Could be part of a marketing shoot that got "diverted". 

The Africa picture also felt a bit intentional - maybe just a "look over here at this time and you might see something" phone call.  As media, I have seen that by divisions or departments - not underwritten by corporate - to wage internal politics.

Even if its totally uncleared, at this time I would be surprised if anything came down.  Really, what did they divulge?   Existance?  That its a camera?  That it has a headphone jack?  What damage was caused?

Now, we got to get details.  That is harder.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 23, 2012, 10:35:13 PM »

Too right there - the zooms, 24-70, 70-200, 200-400 cover a wide range with very sharp lens

Thats where I really got to applaud Canon. 

When the cameras come, the optics will be there!

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 23, 2012, 05:16:42 PM »

Riiiiight. I agree with that, but I still don't see the connection between all that and being a better photographer?

Neither a Canon nor a Nikon is going to make you a better photographer.

We all reach limits.  And we dream of the next camera that will surpass those limits in the features we want/need.  When the next big thing doesnt meet those expectations, we get grumpy.

Oh and btw, generally I agree with your sentiment.


(edit, got rid of the unintended lecture)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 23, 2012, 04:56:29 PM »

I'm so tired of hearing people flip flopping and getting up on their soap box and announcing "Canon loses" or "I'm going to Nikon". How does it REALLY matter?

We are all, in a way, investors in Canon mostly through our lens and flash collections.

So yeah, there is a bit of passion in the purchase.

And maybe a bit of Ford vs Chevy in our blood.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 23, 2012, 12:21:56 PM »

The previous 20+ pages summed up:

"$3500?! INCONCEIVABLE!" - 23%
"Blah blah look at how much I make as a photographer, check me out dooods" - 17%
wild, pointless speculation on other features - 8%
"But the Nikon blahblah is sexier/cheaper/makes me coffee" - 18%
"I want a second hand MK2 / 7D for cheap / free" - 20%

Actual interest and discussion on awesome new features - 13%

YOU'RE WELCOME, INTERNET.

Whats the other 1% ?

Whoops, wrong forum

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 23, 2012, 10:44:09 AM »

but they don't make eye-fi CF cards

But there are a few SD->CF adapters that work with Canon CF-card bodies.  I use one for eye-fi on a 7D.

And given that a compatible adapter is easy to find, I think that argues again for CF x 2 or CF + XQD.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will the suggested 5d III specs satisfy your photograpy needs?

« on: February 22, 2012, 10:14:35 PM »

No, the specs as stated are not ideal.

But I am trying to upgrade from a 7D so just about any FF is a step up.  I might consider more the prospects of a 5D Mark II although I absolutely *Hate* the idea of buying an old model.  But hey, sometimes the older models rock.  Price will matter some.  That little Nikon thought does enter my mind, but I just did pick up a 70-200 2.8 IS II - love it - and like the idea of upgrading to the 24-70 II.

My score -

Canon Lens Division - Heros.  They seem to be working hard to get ahead of the resolution and IQ needs of better cameras.

Canon DSLR Division - Goats.  They do not communicate and seem to be oblivious to the needs of several photo markets.  I'll just say it - its an arrogance.  And they have gotten into this obsession for video that I really do not want or need.

Damn these specs suck.   Give me 28-30 MP at least.

But yeah, I'll probably buy it.  Just not as happily as I could have been.  Maybe wait for round 2?

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 22, 2012, 08:55:46 PM »

for those who don't backup on the spot, it lets you use your current CF cards while buying SD for your new cards and being able to use both

Why would you want to do that?   I have seen way too many dead SD cards and on a client shoot, that would be fatal.    Now if it is XQD I could see that as a progression.  Or perhaps if you can "RAID 1" the cards for backup.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 22, 2012, 08:18:32 PM »

I'm still hung up on the CF/SD card slots...I hate using SD. I've had a few of them go bad on me and that's enough to scare me away from them. I guess if it could save jpegs to SD and RAW to CF that wouldn't be a bad way to have a backup / quick reference card. I'd prefer dual CF slots.

Got to add - yeah, I am also in the dual CF card crowd.

Having done computer projects with large numbers of SD cards, I have absolutely no trust for them.  And I have no need to have preview or family jpegs.  Wasted feature.

But we will wait to see the specs.   Not a deal killer, just an annoyance.

You know what would be better would be a changeable card drive. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 22, 2012, 07:56:36 PM »

I'm okay with the specs, but I think everyone's situation varies.

I'm primarily landscapes, adventure sports, low-light events.  Not pro - but working that direction long-term.  I got a 7D last year because I just was not going to buy a 3-4 year old 5D.  Now in hindsight I probably would have enjoyed the 5DMarkII for landscape; but I am sure the reported AF issues would have crushed me on sports and events.

About anything 5D and in particular the new 5D with these specs will be an improvement.  I have been debating the whole high MP thing  5DIII vs 5DX - and really I think it is best to wait a generation before leaping into high Megapixel ranges.  As nice as 36 MP is, I am seeing noise in the Nikon D800 samples.  Its the same kind of noise I see in the 7D.  So I dont need to trade noise at Crop for noise on Full Frame.  If the 5D-whatever gives me a cleaner IQ, more dynamic range, higher ISO image - I say bring it on.

My only wish-for in the specs was that it was more like 26-28 MP.  But in the math, that really is not much bigger. 

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Lenses / Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)

« on: February 22, 2012, 06:05:33 PM »

I am in the "Other" Category. 

I would love to get a break on a 16-35mm f/2.8 II ...  As a 7D Cropper with the EF-S 10-22mm, thats the first lens I got to trade up from.

A kit 16-35 will never happen from Canon - but if any of the major retailers are watching... that is my wish. 

Beyond that, I want the 24-70 II but I cant absorb that much wallet damage that fast.  Got the 24-105.  Wont buy the older 24-70.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 22, 2012, 05:57:05 PM »

On Price ...
I was just over at WPPI in Vegas and now back at my office down the street.   
I have not heard sirens and sounds of panic from wedding and portrait photographers...  yet...

Ok my thoughts.   I do expect a 10% break - maybe the "anchor pricing" approach.  Or maybe Canon knows the demand...  but when you get up to $3500 you are only $2499 away from a 1DX.   Hmmm..

With three minutes left before WPPI close, I guess I cant make it back to hear the screams