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EOS Bodies / Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« on: December 09, 2011, 12:03:09 AM »
I posted last week to get advice on getting a 7D now... and got some truly wonderful responses about how I should take the plunge... and I did.

I got it last night and took some photos around town today.  While I was shooting around town I thought the PQ looked GREAT... I could definitely see improvements in the evaluative metering over my XSi... and shouldn't even have to mention the HUGE improvements to AF over my XSi.

Everything was going great... until I got home and loaded up those photos in LR3... and saw a ridiculous amount of high frequency noise ALL over the place... even when shooting at ISO 100-200!

I couldn't believe it so I snatched my camera and went out into my backyard and front yard and shot some more photos of houses around me at ISO 100 and was very careful to expose everything correctly and get perfect focus... brought the camera back inside... and CRAZY NOISE persists!

I am mainly a landscape photographer... so _low_ ISO performance is hugely important to me.  Before I bought the camera I read a ton of reviews that were positive... but of course they were all checking the _high_ ISO performance.  Now that I found a "problem" I started searching around and have found TONS of people that are disappointed with the low ISO performance of the 7D.

What to do?

I am going on a trip into the mountains (no hiking, just driving) this weekend, so I'm definitely going to take along the 7D and "do my thing"... and if I come back with noise all over the place I think I'm going to have to return this body.  That's a damn shame because I love everything else about it.

I _do_ think the noise is "livable"... but I feel like I shouldn't have to "live with it" for $1,500.  Also, I buy cameras for the long haul and would be extremely disappointed every time I came back from a trip with noise all over my low ISO photos. 

I feel like I've been cheated of the joy that is rightfully mine by Canon...

Any advice here?


EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* How to Lose $2400 in 24 Seconds
« on: December 04, 2011, 11:42:04 PM »
Canon Beach, Oregon?

Why does the ocean roll in so far with such force?

I have no idea.  When I was there the tide was definitely out and the water came no where close to that high up the beach.

That said, if I were putting my camera down on a tripod anywhere close to where the water might reach I would stand there for quite a while to get a good sense of how safe a particular positioning is...

EOS Bodies / Re: Advice On 7D Purchase
« on: December 04, 2011, 09:11:44 PM »
Thank you all for the great replies!  I ordered it... and I'm crazy excited about it!

I've actually needed to step up to a "pro" body for a while now (I've really been forcing my XSi to do things it wasn't really meant for)... this is going to make my photography quite a bit easier.

As for trading in the XSi... I really like the idea of having a backup camera.  I have some overseas trips planned next year and if my _only_ camera were to give out while shooting the countryside in Japan I think I would just find a cliff to jump off!

EOS Bodies / Re: iPhone 4S vs Canon 5DII
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:58:45 PM »
These kind of stories are worthless.  I have an iPhone 4S and an XSi (and just ordered a 7D) and when my XSi broke down on a photography trip last month I had no choice but to shoot the rest of the trip with the 4S.

I can tell you that compared to a normal point and shoot the 4S does perfectly well... but compared to my XSi it's not even close.  I spent a lot of time trying to get the shot I had in my head into the iPhone, when I could have perfectly dialed it up on my XSi.

I can't stand it when people make comparisons of other cameras to DSLRs and LEAVE THE DSLR ON AUTO THE WHOLE TIME!  I am constantly telling people that if they are just going to leave a DSLR on auto they should really just buy a good point and shoot instead.  A good quality P&S will generate nicer looking jpegs straight out of the camera.  A DSLR is for people who wan to take full creative control over their photography and that includes both the capture and post processing of their photos.

Buying a 1D does not automatically make you produce gallery worthy prints...

EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* How to Lose $2400 in 24 Seconds
« on: December 04, 2011, 02:43:27 PM »
I was on this very same beach in this very same spot a little over a month ago, this is canon (aptly named!) beach on the Oregon coast.

The wind and drizzle were incredible... and I was shooting with my XSi.  I tried to keep it fairly dry (kept it. Overex when I could and wiped it off often), but I don't think it's a coincidence that later that night I was shooting some long exposure shots just outide Portland and my shutter got stuck!

I've since sent it in for repair ($200)... But, because this ruined the rest of my trip (I was there to shoot fall foliage) it finally gave me the push I needed to also get a new camera, this time with weather sealing: a 7D.  I just ordered it yesterday and can't wait to get it in.

I'm going to keep the XSi as a second camera.  I won't ever go without a backup again!

So beware when visiting the Oregon coast!  It's been known to eat a camera or two!

EOS Bodies / Re: Advice On 7D Purchase
« on: December 03, 2011, 05:09:58 PM »
Thanks for the well-reasoned reply... That all makes sense.  I think I'm going to pull the trigger.

Just needed that nudge over the edge ;-)

EOS Bodies / Advice On 7D Purchase
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:33:18 PM »
Looking to pick up a 7D.  I've already invested in EF-S lenses and I would use all of the advanced features of the 7D (ie, it really _is_ what I want... not a 5D II/III or even a 60D or T3i).

My _only_ reservation is timing.  The 7D has been out for over 2 years now and I would be seriously bummed to put down $1500 now only to have a 7DII come out in January or February.

I haven't traditionally paid attention to Canon's release schedule... so I'm hoping that someone around here can give me some indication of the probability of being extremely disappointed in a month or two ;-)

Yes, yes, I know.  Get what you need now and use it until it fails to meet your needs any longer and all that... just trying to be a little smart here...


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