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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 12:09:21 PM »
why does this have to be entry level? why cant Canon make a full frame interchangeable lens camera with a form smaller than a DSLR.
I know some of you out there cant hold tiny cameras, but for me, walking or carrying a backpack for 8 or 12 hours in a day around town, or walking to work, traveling, size and quality is everything... along with quick and accurate AF.
Canon, please make this dream of mine come true.

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Camera Maker: NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model: NIKON D800
Lens: 24.0-70.0 mm f/2.8
got a good laugh from the outcome of this investigation. the 24-70 2.8G is an awesome lens. every time I use mine I cant believe how good the pictures look.

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Portrait / Re: Portraits taken in Saudi Arabia
« on: March 02, 2013, 10:50:56 PM »
love your shots. they really made me smile. They are all really good in different ways.
how'd you find Saudi Arabia? Would you recommend it as a travel destination? These pictures make me want to go!

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EOS Bodies / Re: What is this camera?
« on: March 02, 2013, 10:13:43 AM »
great thread here. CR is getting better everyday.

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Lenses / Re: Canon 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS II Leaked!!
« on: March 02, 2013, 09:55:59 AM »
Sorry, but the attempt is pretty lame.  If you're going to put up a fake 100-400, your fake should show focal length markings somewhere.  No numbers around the zoom ring?  More importantly, you're showing a non-extending zoom and it's too short to be 400mm (unless it's a DO lens, in which case you've got the wrong color stripe).  Better luck next time.
That was a pretty harsh CR style beatdown Neuro. Take it easy on the poor kid.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon Center Pinch Lens Caps Now Shipping
« on: February 25, 2013, 08:32:45 PM »
These things were announced November 5th,
http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/11/canon-announces-new-lens-caps/
It really took them nearly four months to get them in to stores? I thought these had been available for months already.

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EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M? [CR1]
« on: February 24, 2013, 08:03:28 PM »
I don't see what is differentiating these specs from anything that is on the market already, namely sony.
At best, these specs will end up being a NEX type camera that has a Canon Mount. That is great for diehard Canon users, but i'm not excited enough about it to consider that over anything already on the market.
If I were to be interested in APS-C mirrorless camera, it would have to have super quick AF(like the Nikon 1,) a built in flash, hopefully a built in viewfinder, and have an F2.8 Kit lens all for around 1000 bucks at most.
That's probably a dream, but for my uses, APS-C is basically dead. If the above camera was made, I may consider it as a second camera to a future FF mirrorless or an RX1.
Now, if Canon would step up and make a FF mirrorless(like the RX1 with a 24-70(or 24-55mm) zoom, or a mirrorless FF with interchangeable lenses, and kept the cost around $2k or 3K with a decent kit lens or fast prime, well, i'd probably pre order!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 10:43:15 AM »
...it doesn't mean that my opinions are irrational.
Price IS an issue for me, and based on ALL factors regarding cameras, i haven't been too thrilled with Canon's releases.

Your opinion was quite rational, as was your decision to switch to Nikon.  Personally, if my main purpose was to shoot landscapes, I'd be shooting with a D800, 14-24/2.8G and a PC-E 24mm.  Put that in a fanboy pipe and smoke it.   :P

The problem is when someone (and you're not the only one who does this) takes a statement like, "I think the recent Nikon dSLR releases are much better than the recent Canon dSLR releases," and somehow translates that into, "Most people think Nikon is dominating Canon."  First off, your opinion is not everyone's opinion, or even most people's opinion.  My opinion is not everyone's opinion, either, for that matter.  That's why I often bring up sales figures - it's an aggregate way of assessing everyone's 'opinion' based on their buying choices.  Sure, there are lots of factors that go into those buying decisions - features, cost, compatibility with current equipment, what their friends use, etc.  But it's an objective measure, unlike all of the hot air (or electrons, as the case may be) that we read on internet forums.

Another problem is the evaluation of the camera in isolation, or worse, basing an evaluation on sensor performance alone.  You state ALL factors regarding cameras, but both a camera and a lens are needed to take pictures.  Sometimes, a flash is needed, too.  It's the 'camera system' that takes pictures, not just a camera or a sensor alone.  So, it's important to view it in that light - consider your overall needs and budget for a system, and buy accordingly.  If one brand offers the best body in the world, but lesser lens choices, that's something to be aware of...

Finally, most of this really doesn't matter.  Sure, there are a few examples of images that can only be taken with Canon vs. Nikon gear (MP-E 65mm and 17mm tilt-shift shots, ultrawide shots with an image-stabilized lens, etc.).  But for the most part, it's much less about the gear itself than about the person using it to make images.
Neuro, i definitely think you're the man, and I agree with you in many aspects of what you're saying.
I'm simply stating my opinion, which we all agree I am welcome to have.
This sight would be a boring place if everyone on here simply loved all things Canon and hated all things Nikon.
I am happy with the camera system I have chosen, and you are happy with yours. You are right that it would be nearly impossible to tell our photos apart based on our gear.
Disagreeing is what makes the world an interesting place.

While selling more cameras is a strong case for Canon being a superior system, it is not the end all be all of which camera is better. Pointing this out in every argument(as someone always does) does not mean that Canon wins anymore than the fact that people raving about the D7100 specs in this thread make it a better camera than Canon's future offering(or for that matter DXO scores, etc.)

I really appreciate this website and forum and I want to thank the Admin and all the other regulars on here for the constantly enjoyable posts and banter.


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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 09:40:09 AM »
The sad thing is that Nikon is basically dominating all matchups(definitely on the lower end), at least in terms of specs, public perception(I understand pros love Canon for a reason, etc, i'm just saying.)

So, you're saying that "public perception" is that Nikon is "dominating" the matchups?  Is your definition of "public" taken to mean, "People who frequent internet forums devoted to Nikon cameras and people who frequent internet forums devoted to Canon cameras for the primary purpose of trolling?" 

Because the "public" who actually buy dSLRs, as opposed to those who just write about them on the internet, seem to buy a lot more Canon dSLRs than Nikon dSLRs, which is why Canon has been and, as of the latest available data, still is "dominating" the market.

I'm just saying...   ::)

Again with your rational, logical, and fact-based analysis... please, that has no place on the Internet.
Was my initial post really that off the mark?
I have all the respect for Neuro in the world. He is obviously one of the most intelligent people on any internet forum.
But, he is also a GIANT Canon fanboy and it never seems as though price is a consideration for him.
He IS rational, but it doesn't mean that my opinions are irrational.
Price IS an issue for me, and based on ALL factors regarding cameras, i haven't been too thrilled with Canon's releases.
Lets face it, the D7100 destroys an incrementally upgraded 60D, and I'm pretty sure I remember the 7DII's rumored price to be around $2K.
I sincerely hope(as other's have said) that Canon comes back swinging and really offers something fantastic, competetion is good for everyone.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 09:28:43 AM »
The sad thing is that Nikon is basically dominating all matchups(definitely on the lower end), at least in terms of specs, public perception(I understand pros love Canon for a reason, etc, i'm just saying.)

So, you're saying that "public perception" is that Nikon is "dominating" the matchups?  Is your definition of "public" taken to mean, "People who frequent internet forums devoted to Nikon cameras and people who frequent internet forums devoted to Canon cameras for the primary purpose of trolling?" 

Because the "public" who actually buy dSLRs, as opposed to those who just write about them on the internet, seem to buy a lot more Canon dSLRs than Nikon dSLRs, which is why Canon has been and, as of the latest available data, still is "dominating" the market.

I'm just saying...   ::)
well, I live in China, so I don't really know much besides what I see here, and what I read on internet forums.
My friends here in China love the Nikon releases. People on internet forums also seem pretty impressed with the recent Nikon releases. People on Canon Rumors love Canon stuff, but in many other places the general majority seems to have a really strong opinion of recent Nikon releases with a bit more critical reception of recent Canon releases. Canon is the sales leader, but as we all know, that doesn't necessarily make them better. Even your main criticism of this camera isn't the camera but the glass.
 I chose Canon first long before I switched to Nikon. I am not a born and bred Canon basher or a troll.
Are you trying to tell me that all the people in this thread praising the D7100 are here "for the primary purpose of trolling"?
I have been looking at CanonRumors for years. I was hoping for a 7DII, 5DIII, and 24-70 when I didn't know squat about anything Nikon. Just face it, if you don't have unlimited money to spend on gear, Canon's releases over the past few years have been pretty damn depressing.
 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 08:53:27 AM »
51 point AF, $1199 for the body, 100% view finder coverage, magnification 0.73, 24.1MP @6fps

This camera is going to wipe the floor with the 70D.
Sad, but so true.
I'm really happy I left the Canon ship a while ago and got a D700. Nikon is killing it recently.

I think other's are wrong though comparing this camera to the 60D/70D line, isn't that more comparable to the D5200?
D3200=650D
D5200=60D
D7100=7D
D600=6D
D800=5DIII
D800E=_____
D4=1DX
The sad thing is that Nikon is basically dominating all matchups(definitely on the lower end), at least in terms of specs, public perception(I understand pros love Canon for a reason, etc, i'm just saying.)

It could be that Canon heard the specs of this camera and delayed or changed the 70D launch to switch it up a little bit(maybe/maybe not possible.) Because based on the rumored "incremental update" of the 70D, it isn't even close.
Canon would be wise to match the 70D to the D7100 spec wise, and then release the 7DII against the mythical D400, with all the above, fully weather sealed, metal body, AFMA, crazy AF, and 10FPS at around $2000 to grab the pro APS-C market.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 19, 2013, 08:36:28 AM »
it looks like what the 6d should have been but with a ff sensor.  so annoying.

will this be better than the 6d?
If this camera was a full frame, wouldn't it basically be a 5DIII(or 1DX for that matter?)
yes, i think it will be better than the 6D.
This camera sounds awesome. I hope these specs are spot on because i'd love to see a monster 7DII. It just seems cool. This is coming from a person who has almost no interest in buying any more APS-C bodies(unless they are tiny(EOS-M size) and dirt cheap.

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Lenses / Re: I can't stop thinking about A MONSTER!
« on: February 08, 2013, 09:50:32 AM »
something about a bicycle and a 500mm just doesn't sound right to me...
in this case, i might actually say to wait for the 7DII. I'm thinking the 7DII might be a monster APS-C body, on par with the 5DIII, and around 2500 bucks.
i am a tried and true full frame lover, and i NEVER recommend APS-C, but in this case, it might be worth waiting for the (hopefully for you) cutting edge 7DII, and pairing it with a 100-400 or another slightly smaller lens. I honestly cannot imagine anyone handholding a 500mm for more than a few random shots.
is there ANYONE on here that uses the 500mm handheld exclusively? this doesn't sound like a recipe for great shots.... and it is really expensive.
but hey, if you really want it, and you can handhold it, and no other lens works for you, i don't think it's the worst thing you could spend your money on.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Looking for light duty pp laptop solution
« on: February 05, 2013, 01:42:12 AM »
does anyone use a macbook air for lightroom? i'm going to be traveling for about a year next year and i need something really lightweight, that is up to the challenge of editing photos. I don't want anything heavier than a 13 inch Macbook air.....
Is it up to the challenge?

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the longer this goes on, the more i expect the 7DII to have a different sensor with new technology, an extremely good AF, weather sealing, 8fps, and cost $2500.
The 70D might be more like an updated 7DI with a flip screen, AFMA, 19pt af, and a $1400 price.
For the 7DII I think Canon will go after the educated birder or sports shooter who wants the extra reach of APS-C specifically and isn't afraid to pay for quality.

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