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Look, the reviewer obviously hasn't read the commentary on this website regarding the lens because quite clearly, without autofocus, this lens is not worth $4000 and nobody will buy it without autofocus, even if it is the sharpest lens since the big bang.
Nobody will buy it?  Leica's entire M lens line is manual focus and in the price range of $1,500 to $11,000.  They sell as many as they can make, so photographers certainly do buy expensive manual focus lenses.  Not every photographer has the same needs, or the same budget.

"as many as the make" indeed, there's ONE guy putting them together. But the Leica people have a completely different patience than Canikon people do. I used to work at a shop were we sold Leica and if a lens had to be serviced 3 months was FAST, and 5-6 months the average to wait, lol. And here their 24 f1.4 is 8400 usd  ;D

Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM
« on: October 08, 2013, 03:45:42 PM »
Sweet shot Neuro, really nice bw convertion.

I'm honestly surprised by the negativity around price with this lens.  It's a niche lens with a complex design and near flawless image performance that demands a large price.  So be it I say.  I'd like to purchase it, but two things will prevent me from doing so in the short term:

  • Canon does not have a high megapixel body yet to take advantage of this lens.  Granted, there are certainly other benefits such as color rendition, contrast, edge-to-edge sharpness, but my guess is that it really shines with a high megapixel body
  • Manual focus through the viewfinder on newer Canon models is an exercise in frustration if you are extremely anal about perfect focus placement.  Forget about it on the 5D III, as the viewfinder presents an image with an f-stop well smaller than large ones on prime lenses.  I have a 1D-X, but have yet to try one of the focus screens that can be purchased, so maybe I can go that route.

Regardless, I find this thens very intriguing and hope to be able to rent a copy to try at some point.  I will reserve any judgment on price until then.

As MP goes up, difraction limitations the pros and cons of high MP cameras on a 35mm format is unkown at the moment.
It's true, the 5DIII and all Canon stock screens render a DOF of roughly f4...which is a million miles away from fast primes (f1.2). For f2.8 glass, it's not so important but for fast primes, it needs to be worked around. The 1Dx, 5DII and 6D have interchangable screens and when fitted with a "g rated" fine focus screen, the actual DOF can been seen in the viewfinder...but the screen is somewhat darker (fine if you are using primes). I have found that the Spot AF system (which I think isn't on the 1Dx - please correct me if i'm wrong) is fantastic and nailing a precisely placed point of focus, but it's tricky.


"roughly f4" ? I think it's actually f2.5.

The 1d X have the spot-AF in the same way the 5d3 does, and also an advantage over the 5d3, the ability to set spot-metering to any focusing point.

I have the EC-S focusing screen for the 1d X, but I stopped using it after buying the 24-70 II, and it was indeed tricky, because metering isn't supported so you will be doing a fair bit of compensation.


Very few photographers actually need sharp corners wide open. Unfortunatly, twee lens review sites tell uninformed people that they do.

I agree with a lot of you say, but using the 5d3 and 1dx focusing system having sharp corners is the difference between having to only use center composition, or use the edge focusing points and still retain a sharp image. A HUGE difference for me. Try shooting the 50 L wide open at the edge focusing points, and then do the same with the 200 f2. It makes or breaks a composition. For me at least. It's not about having detail in the background with a center composed portrait.

Abstract / Re: Beautiful bokeh! Let me see yours!
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:22:55 AM »

I might crop with fl's from 70mm and at 200 although I really try to frame right in the first place. I used to think I could just crop later, and discovered a lot of my wide shots had to be crop to not so wide and that took away impact.

To pay attention to framing when shooting makes me think more about the whole image, what do I need to include/exclude and my angles etc. And it' made my horizons much straighter (VF level FTW) ;)

I really don't think Canon has been waiting for Zeiss to release the 55 so we
Have something to use with a high mp camera. And I don't think Zeiss knows what canon are releasing before it's released, they assume. That being said it's highly likely a few more high mp cameras will come. Not that I in any way think this lens is at all wasted on a 5d2 or 1dx.

Expect the Zeis to be manual focus and to deliver outstanding image quality. If you think the Zeis lenses are too highly priced then they're simply not for you.

Pre-release review:

+1, I think I can actually say I haven't seen one overpriced lens for Canon. Outstanding IQ costs a bit more than an entry level 50. I have been using the 2470 mk2 100% of time lately and I can't fail and it puts out so consistent fantastic output I have nothing to complain about. Is it twice as good as the mk1, to me, easy...


The wait is over, too bad I spent my money for it on the 200 f2 because they took to d@mn long to release it... New savings account started, marked 55.

Canon: Please get your stuff together and support the EC-S focusing screen for 1d X. Or make a decent 50 yourselfs...

Software & Accessories / Re: good shoulder bag?
« on: October 03, 2013, 06:38:37 AM »
I use the Lowepro Messenger if I'm bringing along a flash and some other stuff. I like it because it isn't as bulky as many others and you can fit a lot of stuff, comes in different sizes also.

the messenger i know seems to be a bit small to fit a 5D MK3 with BG... not?
my main concerne is the attached BG. i donĀ“t want to squash it in so thight or i could just use my tamrac.

which messenger version do you mean?

Ah,you want for the camera also, hm, yeah then no... I always carry the camera with a Black Rapid strap, and keep everything else in the messenger, I never pack away my camera.

Software & Accessories / Re: good shoulder bag?
« on: October 03, 2013, 05:55:51 AM »
I use the Lowepro Messenger if I'm bringing along a flash and some other stuff. I like it because it isn't as bulky as many others and you can fit a lot of stuff, comes in different sizes also.

Lenses / Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« on: October 01, 2013, 06:16:48 AM »
I have owned three copies, because I couldn't decide between the 85 L and the 70-200.

I have had one copy that was completely useless, I had it in for repair, they changed TWO AF-moduls and TWO IS-units, they took out the front end, and three glass-elements and re-aligned the glass and when it came back the AF worked perfectly, but the IS was still not starting as quick as the previous copy, and it jumped, and often worked only one direction, and made a very weird, loud noise. It was VERY soft at 200 when I sent it in, and after all the re-alignment of the glass and front end it came back exactly the same. I sold it for cheap and had the buyer try it to see if if he liked it, and he bought, so I got a third copy, which like the two others had the issue of IS not being perfect, sometimes too slow to start, sometimes only one direction stabilized. But the AF and sharpness and overall image quality and build is as good as it gets. Wonderful lens. Just not as good as the 200 L, which is the reason I no longer have it

I had a ef 200mm f2.8 II L and it was a stunning optic, slightly sharper than my 135L. When I got my 70-200 f2.8 L IS II, I compared it to my 200L and found that the zoom had better contrast and colours. Sharpness tthere was littel between them, manybe a slight nod to the prime wide open. But with teleconverters, the zoom was a lot better. The Zoom has the latest IS unit, faster and quieter AF and it focusses closer too. The bokeh of the prime and general flare control was better than the zoom. The prime is a lot lighter and less obtrusive.
I felt that for my needs, the zoom was a better optic.

I think he means the 200mm f/2.0L IS, not the 200 f/2.8L....

Thanks, you beat me to it, I am talking about the 200 f2.0 yes.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: October 01, 2013, 05:33:41 AM »
the attached Image was shot with the 5DMKIII & 400f/2.8L II, f/8.0 & 1/200th ISO5000

That is an amazing shot!  :D

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: October 01, 2013, 05:31:38 AM »
Katmai, August 2013

Amazing Bear Shots, in particular the one of the Salmon in the mouth and the single Bear with water poring off it, great stuff,

+1 !

EOS Bodies / Re: 6D: LCD protector w/o air bubbles?
« on: October 01, 2013, 05:26:53 AM »
I have used the GGS as long as I can remember and I have smashed at least 8-10 of them when bumping into stuff and not once has there been any marks on the actual screen, and it's sooo much easier to apply then the protective film stuff, and I haven't seen one stripe or scratch on any of them, they simply look perfect or cracks when bumped to hard.

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