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EOS Bodies / Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:33:22 PM »
No one can prove that the March DSLR isn't the 7d2

It will be a surprise if the 7DII gets announced first. I'd be glad if you are right, though 8).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will the 70d have a new sensor?
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:27:44 PM »
Me thinks new incremental improvements within the legacy technology. 

+1

My perdiction is that the 70D will have a new 20mp sensor based on Canon's old tech.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR at the End of March [CR2]
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:24:55 PM »
I don't have a speck of evidence for any of this. But it seems reasonable enough to me, and if my intuition is correct, I'd consider the 70D a respectable camera. Not cutting edge but a solid step up for a lot of current users.

Excellent analysis. Agree on all accounts.

Canon will likely put a new 20mp sensor in the 70D, based on their old tech.
Later, they will put this sensor in the new Rebel, the GX2, and the EOS-M.

The new sensor tech will likely be introduced in 7DII.
That's what makes the most sense, at least.
Canon might surely have other plans.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR at the End of March [CR2]
« on: February 28, 2013, 12:37:59 PM »
No more “super Rebel” for the XXD line.

Hmm.

Considering the lame 6D specs, I'm actually expecting that the 70D will get Rebel-ized even further.
I'd be glad to be wrong, though.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII and D400 Specs
« on: February 25, 2013, 02:09:33 PM »
On paper, the D7100 is impressive. If Canon responds with something close in the 70D ...

I wish ... but I doubt it.
Considering how lame the 6D is, I don't see Canon making the 70D a worthy competitor to the D7100. 
In fact, just the opposite. I'm expecting the 70D to get Revel-ized even further.
Of course it will also be priced lower. Maybe $900-950 at introduction.

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... it makes me wonder what they'll put in the 7DII.  I'm not sure the current rumored spec list for the 7DII would be sufficient to justify an $800 difference in cost. 

Yup. A lot of people will inevitably compare the 7DII to the D7100.
If the 7DII value is not there, many potential buyers will likely wait for the price to fall before buying.

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There is a part of me that thinks Canon may differentiate the two by offering slightly fewer megapixels but better low-light performance ...

That would make way too much sense.  8)
I'm 100% with you on this one, of course.

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EOS-M / Re: EOS M Autofocus Performance Won't Improve via Firmware [CR2]
« on: February 18, 2013, 02:51:31 PM »
Canon did know going in that the autofocus performance was not as good as others in the industry, but didn’t think it was a deal breaker.

Same for the 6D autofocus, obviously.  8)

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My wishlist for a new 7D:
- New sensor with better high ISO capabilities and better DR;
- 100% VF;
- Little better AF system (in between the current 7D and 5D3, maybe);
- AFMA;
- on-camera flash (commander);
- 16 to 18 MP;
- 7D size and ergonomics;
- Two SD card slots;
- 1080p 60 fps video;
- US$1,800...
:)

This is exactly my wishlist as well.
Great minds think alike ;).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 08, 2013, 05:46:00 PM »
I just don't get the title of the thread.... Canon comes out and says that a 7D2 is coming this year and that it will be revolutionary..... someone please explain to me how that gets translated to "Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF"

"MM: Yes, they would be correct. For us, it’s about looking at what the camera has the potential to be and then adding that to what it can currently do. I do think the current model is still very attractive to buyers. And while we are, of course, developing its successor, it’ll be one that incorporates a certain number of innovative technologies. We will not be putting out a product with merely better specs, but one that has evolved into new territory. But then again, we’re not talking about something a long time from now either."

? ? ? ?

There have been two interviews in January with Mr Maeda, Canon's camera boss.

In the fist one he confirmed the 7DII. That's the one that you've quoted.
In the second one, from DPreview, Mr Maeda is quoted saying:

  • MM: From our semi-pro users there's still demand for APS-C but in the future, I think we will see an increase in the number of full-frame models.

I think it's a given that both the 70D and the 7DII will be announced this year.
The future that Mr. Maeda is talking about is at least three-four years from now.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 04, 2013, 03:38:48 PM »
A 7Dii has a value proposition problem. 

Well, it depends.

As I said in another tread, the whole point of the 7D series is to offer advanced specs at an affordable price.
Make it too expensive (e.g. $2000+) and the 7DII will have a value proposition problem.

If too expensive, the 7DII will get out of the enthusiasts' price range.
It will also become too expensive for pros looking for an inexpensive (but capable) second body.

That's why I've been saying that the 7DII will be priced at $1800 max.
At this price (and lower), it won't have a value proposition problem - provided that the sensor is very good.
Of course if priced at $1800, the 7DII will not be spec'd as a 1DIV replacement. That's for sure.

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With the current price of the 7D and the large number of  used and refurbs available in the $1000 - $1200 range, I'd wonder who would buy a 70D that was not the equal of a 7D?? 

Agree.

That's why I actually think that the 70D will get Rebel-ized even further.
It will have an even smaller body than the 60D, maybe no top LCD, etc..
All this so that Canon can lower the price to $950 at introduction.

And the 7DII will be announced at $1600-1800 in the fall.
Definitely not a 1DIV replacement, as many here seem to want.

Let's see who'll guess it right  8).

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Canon EOS-1D C Firmware for 25p Coming in April

Fantastic news ... for the total of five buyers worldwide who bought the 1DC.
(Uhm, is there actually even one buyer??? :o)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« on: January 27, 2013, 10:48:23 PM »
My guess is around $2500, if it has 10 FPS and an AF system matching the 5D III's. 

Yes ... but it won't.

Like many others, you are expecting the 7D to be a 1DIV replacement - with top-of-the-line AF, 10fps, etc..
Canon might come up with such a camera ... but this won't be the 7DII.

The whole point of 7D-series is to provide advanced specs at an affordable price.
So, one thing that we can be certain about the 7DII is that the price will remain basically the same.
This in turn means that the 7DII won't be spec'd much differently than the 7D.
There's only so much that Canon can squeeze into a $1700-1800 camera.

Again, the 7DII won't be a 1DIV replacement.
It will be a 7D replacement - with a better sensor, tweaked 19-point AF system, silent shutter, etc..
There's going to be a surprise feature of some sorts - like color-based AF tracking or some WiFi gizmo. 
Other than that, though, the 7DII will be a refined version of the 7D.
It won't somehow morph into a 1-series ... at a 4x lower price.

Anyway. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D
« on: January 27, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »
For its price, the 7D is a very well spec'd body already.
So, I don't think that Canon can change the specs too much - without also raising the 7DII price too much.

Thus, I predict that many will disappointed by the similar/same specs (same 19-point AF? wtf, I'm switching to Nikon  :-*);

For me, though, the most important upgrade is the sensor.
If the 7DII sensor is really better than the 7D sensor (not like the 5DII -> 5DIII sensor 'upgrade'), I'll be very happy.
Even if the rest of the specs are the same.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]
« on: January 27, 2013, 08:29:54 PM »
Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

Of course they would ...

Of course they wouldn't.

The 7DII will be cheaper than the 6D. That's for sure.

There's a reason the 6D is named '6D': to signify that it is positioned above the 7D.
The marketing message here is that a FF camera is a always a step up from a crop camera, regardless of specs.

This message is needed to assert the premium-ness of FF; without it, it's hard to charge a (hefty) premium for FF.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Where are you EOS 70D?
« on: January 23, 2013, 10:12:21 PM »
... as Canon separates the 7D Mark II with a new, higher performing APS-C sensor. This makes a lot of sense as I think the APS-C segment needs a jolt and not more of the same.

+1000

Canon, are you listening?

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