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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5DMk3 at wedding receptions

« on: June 11, 2012, 07:37:43 AM »

I've noticed a slight delay in the 5D3 AF in low light, but I - for one - appreciate it. 

Does this delay depend on the max open aperture of the lens? I noticed that the af system of the 5d3 depends more on as much light as possible from the lens than earlier models, or parts of the af degrade/are disabled.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will there be a 7d2 at all?

« on: June 11, 2012, 07:26:39 AM »

Just about the last thing the 7DII needs is to bee more expensive since all that will do is justify spending a little more to go full frame.

Canon might have thought about this, too, but could have come to the reverse conclusion: They might phase out the 5d2 and keep the 5d3 as the "cheapest" full frame model, thus making sure the gap remains as large as it is now.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware Version 2 Coming Soon

« on: June 11, 2012, 05:04:04 AM »

Luckily for me, there are other kinds of sports like chess :-)

Entry-level Chess camera?

That's one is great, immediately added it to my all-time favorites archive :-) And it is an excellent reminder that all Canon gear around here being talked about being only good as a paper weight is actually pretty good to begin with.

It's just about the right tool for the job - which might be the paper camera too if you expect it not to make it back in one piece, you can get 85 of these for the price of one 7d.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Lower Price Full Frame Camera [CR1]

« on: June 11, 2012, 04:51:25 AM »

Isn't anyone else thinking 1DX 18 Mp sensor in a 5DII-like body with 60D level AF, low FPS?

One I really like about Canon and what makes me a Canon enthusiast, too, is that every product I ever bought from them was balanced and "just works" - a thing that I have come to value more and more. I don't think they'll start releasing unbalanced products like a severely crippled high-end model just to fill a marketing gap. The only case I can think of where they really screwed up was removing afma from the 60d.

So, there you have it: Canon's "entry level" FF camera will be the 5DIII @ $2499 at the end of next year.

Well, you might be correct :-o ... especially if the 70d is moved up again @$1500+ the gap aps-c to ff wouldn't be that large anymore. And if Canon expects the 5d3 price tag to drop $1000 over the next year, it would make sense they're putting their high-mp body above the 5d3, eventually taking its place in the price range.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i First Impression Review

« on: June 11, 2012, 04:39:09 AM »

due to the new t4i released, I believe t3i will have a great discount recently.

.. and so does the t2i - both running magic lantern right now :-)

That was kind of my point.  Consumers wont spend this much on new body.  They will either go with the one that's cheaper (and quite capable I might add) or realize that a consumer model is not what they need and jump right to the semi-pro models.

The older 60d really seems to be quite attractive if you don't need the 650d's touchscreen & video af - there have been some questions around here, too, which one to get. But that won't be forever, by photokina Canon might phase out the 60d and replace it with a higher-priced model.

If the prices of the recently announced stuff are glimpses of things to come, there's no point in waiting for Photokina to see what Canon has under its sleeve.

What's currently happening imho is the only (and thus smart) choice Canon has. The pressure from below is building up, there are mirrorless systems and many manufacturers can build decent entry-level cameras. And Canon will be a major mirrorless player in this market too. So they have to move their dslr line up, we simply have to face that. On the bright side, the new models will be very feature-complete for Canon to be able to sell them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon at a Crossroads?

« on: June 11, 2012, 04:15:43 AM »

I think Canon is at a crossroads, but it's not the crossroads you imagine. If you read their announcements for these new lenses and the T4i, it's pretty clear these lenses are targeted to video.R market and I think they intend to hold on to it.

I agree, unfortunately since I don't shoot video. The "crossroads" for Canon is how they'll allocate their r&d resources, i.e. how of the dslr still shooters' market they are willing to loose for the certainty that they have a strong position in the future video & mirrorless markets. And the 650d sensor shows what they're developing, and what not.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: shutter cycles

« on: June 11, 2012, 04:02:19 AM »

I mean 150 000 shots is not thaaaaat much..

It isn't if you do dicy macro shots, focus stacking, exposure bracketing or high fps shots a lot to get the moment. I'm now @80k of my 100k 60d cycles, and hope it will go way beyond that. I have failed to get some statistics about how long the shutter really works on xxd and xxxd models, so if anyone can give a prediction, I'd be obliged.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5DMk3 at wedding receptions

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:58:02 AM »

Yes i have found while it will actually achieve lock in lower light than the mk2 it struggles and takes too long in really low light

Is this due to the fact that the 1dx's af works slower on the 5d3 with its lower voltage and/or computing power, so the af might be somewhat overpowered for the 5d3's design? I've read about the slower af a couple of times and am curious about this, because I'm really not sure if I should save for a 5d3 because of the better af or rather get a 5d2.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Less talking and more shooting

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:52:33 AM »

Without wanting to get flamed, I just want to say that I see too much discussions here about what lens, what camera, what gear etc here on the forum. Its nice talking about the gear but to be honest, if we are talking too much then it means we are not shooting.

+1 ... but the issue with my current gear is that after shooting I have to post-process the raws on my slow box, I put my money into lenses and not into computer stuff. So after shooting unfortunately there's plenty of time for talking left while LR tried to import or render the shots :-o ... I'd just take shooting more seriously than talking.

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Lenses / Re: EF 100 2.8L macro w 1.4 & 2x

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:48:33 AM »

Just wondering what kind of results you guys have gotten using a 1.4 & 2x extender on the 100 2.8L macro?

I've got the 100L and use if frequently with the inexpensive 1.4x Kenko tc on my 60d. The Kenkos are compatible with every ef lens (I originally got it for my 70-300L). The iq of the macro combination is excellent because the 100L is a very good tc base, I can really recommend it.

The nice thing about using a tc instead of a tube is that your lens remains uncrippled, it's new just a complete 140/4 with boosted magnification and/or working distance - there are some good comparisons of extender vs. tc on a macro if you google for it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New T3i User - Should I return?

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:42:14 AM »

Don't worry about any of the in-camera stuff.  Learn to use RAW and do your post processing using a mac or pc.  The computer in your camera is pretty weak compared to a laptop or desktop, they can do a lot more powerful processing and that can mean cleaner and sharper images.

+1 ... in-camera processing is just a convenience if you want or need quick results - or if you're on the start of the learning curve and cannot do "real" postprocessing yet.

Mostly I miss the in camera HDR and night stills that my point and shoot had.

You can try the firmware addon "magic lantern" which (next to lots of other killer features) offers unlimited hdr shots, it can even change the iso instead of the time so you'll get less noise. With this and a software like Photomatrix, you'll blow any other aps-c/p&s camera out of the water

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified

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EOS Bodies / Re: t4i vs 60d

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:36:29 AM »

I am very cautious since for me the video quality of the t3i didn't seem as good to me as the 60d.

Where did you get this idea? They both use the same sensor and processor (digic4), both run magic lantern, there shouldn't be a difference at all?!

As for the 650d, it's about video af and maybe improved noise reduction in video (dicic5) - but wait for good reviews until deciding how these really work in real life.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless thought....

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:33:24 AM »

It would really change things up alot IQ would be awesome and the can make the new lenses APS-H and obviously make it to accept EF lenses too.

Since the first mirrorless systems won't be there to replace better dslrs, I guess the ef compatibility will be just the icing on the cake and to ease transition from the eos systems. Canon might use the opportunity of this radical technology change to re-design the lens system, too, so ef will be usable with an adapter and maybe not exploiting all features of the new camera bodies.

The same goes for the sensor size - if the mirrorless systems start at the lower end of the scale, they won't use an aps-h sensor that delivers iq that the targeted customer ground won't max out.

Mirrorless is getting more respected, but it still has some way to go.

Mirrorless will only get more respect if it doesn't only comes in smaller camera bodies or with lower price tags, but delivers features that mirror systems cannot have. And this is on-the-fly image processing with an evf (zebras, focus peaking) or smart af - face detection or imagine your af system being able to track a bird automatically because of image recognition and movement analysis...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will there be a 7d2 at all?

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:21:32 AM »

They could go 1/3 stop better for sure and probably even 1/2 stop better, but more than that and you may be waiting for something that won't arrive

It's not aps-c itself, but the fact that Canon is pushing mp count which each new sensor iteration so noise isn't substantially improved at 100% crop. We might see this happen again with the 70d: 22mp, a little noise improvement which the current Canon sensor tech can deliver, but iso 800 is still the max. good setting.

For dynamic range they could improve things a ton though.

Dynamic range is another, maybe more important matter. If you get more noise at higher iso settings, you can just downsize the picture, so basically the higher mp count doesn't hurt. But downsizing doesn't improve dr, if you've got clipped highlights or flat shadows, that's it.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware Version 2 Coming Soon

« on: June 11, 2012, 03:13:51 AM »

You can use lesser cameras like the 60D and 600D for sports, but they're not 'sports cameras'. Ergo, the 7D is canon's "entry-level sports-camera".

If you're specifically talking of sports, I guess you're correct because the 60d's servo af and af point spread isn't made for action at all. Luckily for me, there are other kinds of sports like chess :-)