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Either there is a major difference in IQ and quality control, or the reviewing website I most often use (you know the one) is somehow biased toward Canon (and maybe Nikon, but I don't read that part of the site).  Every review I read of a Tamron or Sigma lens reads like a death sentence.   "My 2nd copy was better than the 1st, but my 3rd copy was so bad I wished I had the 1st copy back..." and so on.  Or  "I really wanted to like this lens, but..."  I think I have read every Sigma or Tamron review on the site and none of them reccomend any of the lenses.  In fact, they they kind of discourage you from buying non-Canon.

That said, I went to the one old-school camera store in my PA city today and tried out the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II, (and also the non-IS f4 version) and compared them to the Tamron 2.8 equivalent.  Have to say, even just tracking the stuff on the store shelves, both the Canons were much faster to focus, and way smoother/quieter.

Lenses / Re: How about Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HS
« on: March 31, 2012, 10:27:42 AM »
I couldn't even afford a Canon version, so I opted for a Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4.

To my surprise it was really good. Unless you really need AF, I think MF lenses are worth trying. The Super Takumar is just half  the price of the Canon one.
Plus, "Super Takumar" just sounds way cooler than the other two. (ha)

Canon General / Re: Canon Refurb Lenses and bodies 15% off Now.
« on: March 30, 2012, 09:20:08 PM »
Thanks anyway though.

Canon General / Re: Another - which camera to buy?
« on: March 30, 2012, 09:00:33 PM »
Hi all,

I sure could use your advise. I currently own a 300d. I have used it for many years and have loved it, have made numerous shots with it. However, startup is slow, screen is small, and AF is not great (specifically on moving objects). I am ready to upgrade...

I should tell you that I am very much on a budget (and my wife keeps reminding me over and over....). With that in mind, I am doubting between the 600d and a second-hand 7d. The 600d is smaller and lighter, has a swivel screen and is cheaper (still quite a bit cheaper than a second hand 7d). The 7d has better AF and gets raving reviews everywhere....

My target is travel/street, children and occasionally some wildlife (birds). I own the 28-105 (as all round lens), the 75-300 4-5.6 (for the occasional wildlife, but also for portraits) and the 18-55 kit lens. Again, I am on a budget....

Your advice is very much appreciated. Is it worth spending more on a second hand 7d, or should I simply get the 600d (with the limited quality lenses that I own in mind), brand new?

Another option is to wait for the 650d. I need the camera before my holiday in July, and would like to own it a month or two beforehand to get used to it... But with the scarce rumours on the 650d, will it be there in time?


I'd recommend that you first get some better lenses.  right now, the 75-300 and original 18-55 are more limiting than your camera body.  I can't find any reviews of the 28-105mm, but it is a low end lens and may also be limiting you.
Better lenses will focus faster and give you a lot of benefits.  As mentioned above, I'd spend your money on a refurb Canon 15-85mm lens and sell off the other three.  Then, when you can afford a telephoto, get a 55-250IS, it is certainly going to outdo the 75-300.
After that, you would  benefit from a upgraded body.  My first DSLR was The Original Canon Rebel, and after upgrading my lenses, it made a huge difference.
If you are in the USA, go to the Canon refurb store and register.  They will send you notification for the occasional 15% off sales.
Better yet, if you are in the USA, and  if you can find a old broken Canon film SLR or a powershot that is dead, you can make use of the Canon customer Loyalty Program to get a fat discount off the refurb prices of bodies only (not lenses). Its about 15-20%.  There is a 14 day return policy and a 90 day warranty.  The equipment I've bought has been supurb, as good as new and looking like new and all the original accessories are included.
good Luck
I'd second that.  Those lenses are in the very entry level of the Canon lineup.  A high-end body would not be able to wring much more out of them.  You seem happy to stay with crop-frame (as I am), so you can safely buy upgrades in the EF-s lens family and not have to worry about ditching them later for an upgrade to full frame. 
And very interesting info on the busted film camera/customer loyalty discount also. Mt. Spokane.

Canon General / Re: Restraint of trade?
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:44:27 PM »
Of course this is legal. Canon has the right to set the price they will sell their product at, just as any commercial photographer can set his or her price for photographs.

Companies have the right to set the terms of their agreement with retailers and retailers who don't accept the terms have the right to refuse to offer the product for sale. Apple, Adobe, Microsoft and hundreds upon hundreds of other companies set the price that retailers can sell their products at.

You can't collude with competitors to fix the price of all the available cameras. But each manufacturer is free to charge whatever they want. Just as consumers are free to buy or not buy the product at the price the manufacturer sets.

Canon has apparently made a decision to tighten up the pricing that dealers can offer on their products. The most likely reason is that Canon wants to protect its network of dealers from unfair competition by outfits like Amazon, that don't have a physical presence and don't pay taxes.  They can't do anything to force Amazon to pay taxes, but they can give their responsible dealers a fair opportunity to compete against the vultures.
Correct.  Somewhat irritating to those of us who like to shop bargains online, but entirely legal.

Thanks, Neuro!  That is definitely a precise and comprehensive answer.

I had seen promo codes under the Deals postings on Digital Picture but had not seen this rebate tracking list.

It looks like they never go more than 2 -3 months without a rebate running, which does help douse the sense of urgency.

Rebates aside, though, if I had a nice canon refurb promo code (that was working), I think I'd warm up the visa card tonight anyway.

Canon General / Re: eBay scam?
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:20:05 PM »
I was selling a lens on Craigslist this week, and I got the most hysterical response from one "guy."  First he sent an email saying just "is the item still available?" and nothing else.
I replied that it was and then I got the funny one.
He sends a message saying "STOP.  Remove the item from Craigslist...I will be paying you $50.00 over your asking price...and I will be sending my movers to come and remove the item.  He'd contact me with another email to "arrange payment."

That would have been a lame scam for something expensive and HEAVY like furniture or something, but for a sub-$200 kit zoom lens it was absurd.

Canon General / Re: Canon Refurb Lenses and bodies 15% off Now.
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:10:25 PM »
Already stopped working unfortunately.

Canon General / Frequency/Patterns for Rebates? (or for Promo Codes)
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:05:27 PM »
Does anyone have a feel for how Canon generally runs its rebates?  THere are a batch expiring on the 1st, but I suspect this will not be the last we see of rebates, right?  When would we expect them to return?  When they release all these new lenses they are talking about this year?  For Christmas?

Also, are there ANY promo codes actually working right now for lenses? Either retail or direct from Canon??


Lenses / Re: What lens are you patiently waiting for?
« on: March 29, 2012, 10:39:26 PM »
Three, actually.  Canon recently left such a wide, yawning gap in coverage between its newest two primes (EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM, and EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM). 

I think they next need:
26mm, and

EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:14:08 AM »
Maybe this sort of ugly reality can stop the mindless megapixel war.

Lenses / Re: 600mm f4.5 FD
« on: March 25, 2012, 09:25:25 PM »
Nice shots, Wickedwombat.

You guys have a distinct advantage in the wildlife photography as far as access to the exotic fauna.  Kookaberra and Kangaroo shots, posted like it's no big deal.  Cool.

Lenses / Re: Canon 70-200 F4 IS or F2.8 (non IS)?
« on: March 25, 2012, 09:11:48 PM »
I read on The Digital Picture that the author there turns off IS while shooting sports.  Seems a little counter-intuitive, and he does not say anything about why.

Would this likely just be because his shutter speed is so high to capture the action that camera shake is irrelevant?  Or might a person do this just to save battery power?  Or could vigorous panning done with the IS on impart some kind of feedback problem between IS and the panning motion?

I ask because the non-IS 2.8 is something I am thinking about for my little girls' soccer.  Although I have to say it is a little comical to describe a Kindergartener's "speed" as being especially "high," even though she thinks she is like greased lightening.  :)

Lenses / Re: Leica/Canon GLASS
« on: March 24, 2012, 11:59:29 PM »
Thank you friends for your inputs.
No, I do not find my 7D pictures soft at all.

Clearly autofocus has its uses though.  I know I couldn't have captured those lions running towards me as sharp as this while I'd simultaneously be running, screaming and soiling myself, if I had to use a manual focus lens.

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