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EOS Bodies / Re: Mirrorless vs DSLR Camera
« on: September 09, 2014, 01:03:34 AM »
granted we have different uses for our gear but I can not agree with many of your points, I've rebutted within the quote re my experience with Fuji, Olympus and Pentax.

Lack of lens Selection.  -  MFT system has a lot of great glass covering UWA to long zoom, Fuji X has the UWA to medium tele covered with long tele coming.  The real limitation is MFT ultimate resolution is lower.

Lack of a Mature Flash system. - I'm not familiar with the Oly yet, I think it has some pretty decent capabilities, but Fuji X system flash is definitely weak. Pentax ML work with existing Pentax kit which is decent, but not extensive

Lack of Ergonomics for Long Handheld use.  -  definitely not.  Every ML body I've got or used has a very comfy, if optional, grip available.  E-M1 feels custom made for me even w-o the grip so this is, if anything, subjective.

Laggy EVF in Low Light. - last year, probably.  newer systems, not really. Some gain-up very well in low light and maintain decent frame rates, like Fuji XT1 & XE2. I find they're quite easy to get used to using and compensating for any slight lag.

Slow AF  -  compared to what? Top line sports-oriented DSLRS?... then yes.  good current ML systems AF speed is comparable to consumer/prosumer SLR, i.e., fast enough for most things, most users, and the accuracy is often very high.

Crap Battery Life.  -  will give you that one, most ML bodies w EVF do have some energy management options you can set that improve battery life by turning displays off if you've not got your mug up to them.  But nowhere near the battery life of an efficient SLR - then again, ML's are still mostly handicapped by compact body forms and tiny batteries rather than the larger capacity batteries used in prosumer + SLRs.  This could easily change with design alteration with present tech.

Crap Sync Speed (A7R) - ya, some could be faster, so could some SLRs too. -

No PC sync port. - it's right there on my Fuji XT1, and a simple and cheap hot-shoe adapter for everything else.

Viva la MILC!  ;D

Things are going well for MILC in Korea, with Sony and Samy taking top spots while Canon, Nikon and Oly are way down and losing ground.

The grass is greener on ALL sides of the fence, it all depends where the backlighting is.

From the Nikon side, I miss the simplicity of using Canon cameras with their intuitive interfaces.
They have a catalog of lenses that covers ALMOST anything I'd want.  I sure covet those TS-E lenses!
I have a lot of this stuff. (I HAD a lot more)

from the Canon side, I really wish the low ISO performance was better, I'm tired of dealing with so much pattern (& random) noise when i'm trying to maul a raw file.  But I sure like how quickly I can make good use of any body I pick up and shoot with.

from the Pentax side, WTH is with the metering! It's nowhere as predictable as CaNikon's.  But it does deliver the goods otherwise and this IBIS is better than I thought it would be.

From the Olympus side, who designed this menu system?!?  They really ought to look at how Canon does this.  But these lenses are amazing.  Wow I  can do a lot of funky stuff with this camera!  I sure like shooting with a decent EVF, the overlaid live histogram is fantastic.

From the Fuji side, Did the Olypus team design this user interface too?!?  Gheez this gear is pricey, doesn't work too well for action either, and I wish there were more native lens options. But holy cow, did you see the shots I pulled off with this thing?  Even the camera jpgs look gorgeous.  Low ISO, hi ISO, this thing creates the images I see in my mind.  Noise reduction?... what's that?  Wow, I sure like shooting with a good EVF, the overlaid live data is fantastic.

With that, I don't feel like I'm fenced into some tiny area, confined to one manufacturer's products.  I can (thankfully) afford to have a variety of tools available, each well suited to different types of shooting conditions or just my mood for the moment.  I complement each mfr's bodies with the lenses and accessories best suited to how I'm going to exploit each of their advantages:
- more fast glass for the Fuji and Olympus,
- nothing more from Pentax for now unless they release a FF,
- some 3rd party goodies for Nikon to expand options here to more areas.
- nothing for the Canon group either, will keep what I have that works well, maybe grab an updated 7d2 if it works really well, possibly a long prime or zoom if I can justify how little I'll use it.

When my Canon gear showed that its limitations were making some kinds of shooting difficult for me, I  spent little time working on work-arounds and, instead, researched better alternatives.

Dammit Canon!  Your FPN issues caused me to learn a lot more and spend a lot more $ than I had ever thought I would!

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 05, 2014, 03:24:53 AM »
The reality is that if any company made a camera system that was better than everyone else at everything, they would have the entire market...

I doubt it. There'd still be a pile of people claiming how their old brand X was still better than the superior brand Y in some unmeasureable metric, or it would cost to much to switch, or... something.

EOS Bodies / Re: The day of the anti-climatic announcement
« on: September 05, 2014, 03:14:11 AM »
Ire? No. But at this point I would like to see a new forum rule. Before complaining about a Canon sensor vs. any other sensor on the market, one must post RAW files in accordance with the following:

Would you (or others you believe would ascribe to this philosophy) also be willing to supply said raw files from your new 7D2, 5D4, or whatever comes along, shot as required with a lens cap on, in a totally darkened environment so that others could examine them to measure read noise and other sensor-system performance information that can be found that way?
.. so it could be compared to previous generations to quantify any performance changes in certain areas.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: will the samsung NX1 steal the show?
« on: September 04, 2014, 12:02:28 AM »
recent rumor update is 15fps with AF

A7r is the FF version of the venerable 16MP APSC sensor
54MP would be a FF version of the current 24MP crop sensor.  I don't see this as a surprise, just an eventuality.
Who gets to use it first tho, sony or nikon, is more the question.

EOS-M / Re: Anything new on EOS-M3? How it may compare to A6000?
« on: September 03, 2014, 11:53:24 PM »
I use Fuji XT1, and older XE1s.
Recently got Olympus OMD EM10.

They're similar, but different.
I really like the output from the fujis, just blows everything else away for IQ and convenience of great OOC jpgs.
OTOH, the Oly, which is initially a little harder to get used to because of the complexity of settings and options and fewer physical controls, I find more "fun" to use for less serious shooting.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 03, 2014, 01:38:43 AM »
..The 6D performs remarkably better at high ISO...and statistically given it's read noise levels, it should perform similarly at low ISO (I don't know if there are any low ISO comparisons between those two cameras...everyone focuses on the high ISO differences.) So, my reasoning is logical. I've been WAITING a long time for Canon to fix their banding issues...and the camera I have in hand right now is the 5D III.

I did my little dark noise test on the 6D... but did not buy one.  So that'll give you a clue. :)
Altho slightly better, with reduced low iso banding, it still has vertical banding a'la 5d2/3.
It's much better than (my) 5d2, somewhat better than 5d3, but still not good enough for me to consider dropping a wad on it just to back Canon tilt-shift lenses at this time.

I don't think I published the test, other than a text description of it on here, somewhere, shortly after the 6D became available.  If I remember correctly, 100 and 200 iso were slightly less FPN, 400 was not much difference, don't remember how it fared after that but I did pronounce it as being the best IQ contemporary, FF, Canon body.

EOS Bodies / Re: The day of the anti-climatic announcement
« on: September 03, 2014, 01:13:24 AM »
Hmmm..  this could be considered evolutionary.
They could go with ML tech and the DPAF system but expand AF system function like this:

- Joystick to move AF area wherever you want
- control wheel to make active AF area whatever size you want
- maybe even without a mirror in the way, increasing fps and reducing vibration would mean slightly increased sharpness possible
- add a hybrid viewfinder that overlays the selected AF location and size (AF area shape could be an option too)
- Mirror-up operation with hybrid EVF display of image + info overlays.

This could make for a very flexible and usable AF and metering system while still being a "DSLR."

So many interesting things could be done..
will be interesting to see what actually escapes, er, get's released.

And please, for the love of DRones, dat sensu betta be betta big time!

I don't consider them good enough or I'd have one.  I would not buy a Fuji or Sony, at least, not yet.  A camera for me is only part of a complete system, which includes hardware, software, and support.  All three need to be top notch for me to buy in.

I can agree about support likely being an issue, these are all, so far, fairly small players in this segment.
FWIW, my Fuji XT1 light leak issue was repaired and back to me in just over a week, slow shipping included.  No experience or need with the other ML yet.

If you need more lenses, Fuji's got you pretty well covered already, MFT lenses are plentiful and Oly has some really nice pro ones in the pipe.  sony... well, there's lots of adapters.  ???

Software... what you need?  Everything's covered well enough right now, tho it may require a workflow mod with is too tedious a change for some users.  I can use jpgs from the Fuji for most things, Oly raw I run thru DNG converter and use with LR3.

Flashes...  3rd party for Fuji if you need big stuff, otherwise their little ones are fairly effective for light (oops, pun) work.  I haven't looked at the Oly or Panasonic lineup.  Since I mostly shoot outdoors or natural light this is of little importance.  When I shoot with lights it's full manual, so I'm using a Canon flash on my Olympus, works fine.

So it's all already here to a good extent, but perhaps not enough for a working pro in some ways.

get's interesting around 14:15

it's not too visual, can listen to it in the background for the most part

Mirrorless is good enough for most shooting already.  Has been for a few years if you consider how well Fuji's X Pro and XE1 work.
Recent upgrades from all major players have mirrorless abilities on par with similar cost class SLRs while providing a much more informative display.
EVF lag is not that big a deal, it's minimal, keep your other eye open for critical shot timing.
Focus speed is fast and it's precise.
If you haven't played with the latest crop of advanced ML bodies to see just how well they perform, you might be surprised when you do.
I now shoot mainly ML and only take out the SLRs when I know their benefits will matter.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:19:25 AM »
Maybe someone with more technical knowledge can chime in, but my understanding is that the effects of read noise diminish as ISOs go up.  I've read (can't recall where) that lifting shadows becomes roughly equal between D8x0 and 5D3 somewhere between ISO800 and ISO1600.

Again, this is not my personal experience, and I can't cite you a source.  If you have access to both cameras maybe you could post side-by-side samples at ISO1600.

you can see how the d800's shadows are much cleaner than the 5d3's up to iso 800.  The d800's read noise takes a sudden jump at 1600 so it's similar to the 5d3.  All are pushed 4 stops so you can easily visualize the noise patterns.

Neuro, if you think you have a better, faster way to demonstrate read noise, spit it out.
Constantly trolling with snark about lens cap on shots for this purpose is just dumb and frankly, makes you look bad if you can't top the technique.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: will the samsung NX1 steal the show?
« on: August 31, 2014, 02:53:37 AM »
Friend of mine loves his Samsung mirrorless... ???

OTOH, way back, I got a Samsung mono laser printer cuz the HP model spewed sh*tty software all over my OS.
The Samsung one had a minor bug when printing PDFs from classic mac OS, but not OS X. (x or y was slightly off scale so a 4x4 inch square would be something like 4 x 3.7)
I emailed them with a full description of the bug... I got a fixed driver emailed back to me in less than 2 days!
It's been working ever since.
now the HP did have a better print quality.. but the Sammy software was much better, especially after it was fixed.

Don't know if they have service like that now...

Lenses / Re: Permanent price drops
« on: August 30, 2014, 02:26:56 PM »
so.... sales have slowed and they want to spur some activity?
or their profits are SO good they want to offer us a bit of a gift?

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