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EOS Bodies / Re: I am done with B&H
« on: April 18, 2012, 04:05:35 AM »
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After someone posted on this website that Kenmore Camera in Washington had some stock of the body only package, I called them and I liked the family/small feel I got.  I placed me order and received confirmation and tracking number within the hour and my camera was in my hand 2 days later.  When I called B&H to cancel my order, the rep had a rude tone and asked me which camera store had stock as if he did not believe me.
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I think B&H are likely to have had a fair number of cancellations as people made orders with them first because they were known to provide good service & price, only to find B&H's order list far exceeded their initial supply and thus people were left thinking "Do I wait or do I go where I can get one?" After the first 100 such calls, it is going to wear on the folks handling such calls as obviously people calling up to cancel were never serious about being B&H customers.

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Last week I was visting NYC and decided to visit B&H store for the first time and while I was impressed of how busy the store was, I sensed an unwelcoming attitude and one dude told me I couldn't take photos inside the store.  Maybe its just the normal tone of New Yorkers, but I have to say it's kind funny that I couldn't take photos inside a Photo store.

Firstly, remember that B&H is a private premises.

Secondly, if you just waltz in to look around and take photos, why would you expect them to act any different?

Thirdly, if you were talking to a rep about buying a camera with an intention to buy and were trying it out, I'm sure they would be more welcoming.

Lastly, I'm not sure I'd welcome people with an attitude like you've displayed here in my store if I had one.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Capture One 25% off
« on: April 17, 2012, 02:05:50 PM »
I have no idea the advantage of a program like this especially when LR is $150 now.

IMO, color management, color tools, extremely fast workflow to start with. Definitely worth the demo to see for yourself. No 5D3 support yet but should be soon.
Ok then maybe i should ask a diff question, What does it have that makes it a better product than LR4? Also, Software always gets rebated before a new version comes out. Why get this version especially since it doesnt suport the 5dm3? I did know they didn't support this and have investigated this software but never loaded a free trial. It takes time to learn a new system.

It has better dual monitor support.

It has a better interface for making adjustments.

There's just a couple to start you off with.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5Dii refurbished- instock at Canon store for 1500!!!
« on: April 17, 2012, 10:45:20 AM »
I just picked up this now "classic" for 1500 AFTER tax and shipping!!!

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductListingViewAll_10051_10051_-1_29252?WT.mc_id=C126149

Promo code for 20% off:
20SLR412

There are awesome deals on the 7D, 60D, etc too!


Now sold out.

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PLEASE STOP POSTING KEN ROCKWELL LINKS.

HE SAYS CONTRAVERSIAL THINGS SO THAT PEOPLE WILL PASTE HIS LINKS, MORE PEOPLE LOOK AT HIS WEB SITE AND HE THUS EARNS MONEY. THUS IT IS OF NO CONCERN TO HIM HOW RIGHT OR WRONG HE IS, JUST THAT HE IS CONTRAVERSIAL AND GENERATES TRAFFIC.

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The Sony FS700 is going to find a lot of happy homes, especially if the metabones adapter works for it. 300FPS slow-motion at 1080p, built in ND filters, future 4k upgrade, great low-light ability, $8,000 price tag. How can the C300 compete with the new Sony FS700 at twice the price with less features?

The C300 can't even do 1080 60p for christsakes.

Well people are buying the C300 so it can't be all that bad, can it?

Maybe the people that want to use the C300 don't care about 1080/60p or 4K upgrades?

Maybe the people that want to use the C300 see more in it for what they do than they do in the FS700?

And just maybe evaluating the worth of these cameras is not something that is easily done by looking at a pair of spec sheets and saying "this one has more bells and whistles and is more shiny, so therefore is better."

Why don't you write up a review of when you've used both the FS700 and C300 and put it on youtube or vimeo so that we can see how you demonstrate the superiority of one over the other?

Prove to me how the C300 isn't overpriced compared to the FS700.

People are buying them and not the FS700.

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The Sony FS700 is going to find a lot of happy homes, especially if the metabones adapter works for it. 300FPS slow-motion at 1080p, built in ND filters, future 4k upgrade, great low-light ability, $8,000 price tag. How can the C300 compete with the new Sony FS700 at twice the price with less features?

The C300 can't even do 1080 60p for christsakes.

Well people are buying the C300 so it can't be all that bad, can it?

Maybe the people that want to use the C300 don't care about 1080/60p or 4K upgrades?

Maybe the people that want to use the C300 see more in it for what they do than they do in the FS700?

And just maybe evaluating the worth of these cameras is not something that is easily done by looking at a pair of spec sheets and saying "this one has more bells and whistles and is more shiny, so therefore is better."

Why don't you write up a review of when you've used both the FS700 and C300 and put it on youtube or vimeo so that we can see how you demonstrate the superiority of one over the other?

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crop mode would be nice, but I'd be happy if the 5DIII was able to resolve 1080 to begin with without resorting to mutilation and removal of the OLP filter.

If the comments of a professional comparing an Arri Alexa to a C300 are anything to go by (where they discussed putting a blurring filter in front of the C300 because it resolved to much facial detail) then I think the 5DII/5DIII's ability to resolve 1080 is only of concern to Internet complainers.

Then again, if you're working in a professional production house and recording video for TV/film, maybe you can provide a pointer to something on vimeo/youtube that you've done that is a showcase for why the 5DII/5DIII is not good enough and why you need 1080?

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If you received a 20% pay raise tomorrow, would you still feel aggrieved about the prices?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but the amount of money I have wouldn't change anything, as of now I still feel like it's overpriced.  But I'd like to see the image quality before I make a final judgement.  Considering the alternatives out there, it just seems like it's not worth $15k for what you're getting, but we'll see. 

I put it to you that Canon's newer stuff seems expensive because inflation has started to have an impact on the price of goods but not people's salaries.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / C300 in professional use...
« on: April 14, 2012, 03:45:06 AM »
A couple of URLs with stories from pros...

http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2012/04/dueling-canon-c300-and-arri-alexa/

... this one is interesting because there are quite a few comments and discussion about how to dial down the detail of the C300 with how it renders skin. They don't want to capture and broadcast all of those pimples, etc.

http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2012/03/the-canon-c300-on-an-el-pollo-loco-spot/

In this case, it is a story of the C300 being used to shoot a promo. In case you were thinking that the C300 was expensive, do an inventory of all of their other expenses - especially post. The C300 cost will be a once off that will be amortized over many different shoots whilst other costs (gennie rental, gas, post, etc) will be re-occurring.

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EOS Bodies / How to distinguish the Cinema 1D?
« on: April 13, 2012, 04:33:55 PM »
I like C1D because it matches up with the C300 and C500. 1DC makes it feel too like a variation of the 1D series cameras, although that it is. Tough call!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III Product Advisory
« on: April 13, 2012, 04:28:28 PM »
My 5DIII does this, too, but I can't see when I'd be in shooting situation where it would be an issue. Perhaps there are situations where it would matter, but if Canon offers some kind of fix, I'm not going to bother sending the camera in.

Where does it matter?

Say I've composed a shot in a dark setting by looking through the eye finder, with the camera tripod mounted.

I don't want to stay looking through the eye finger because it is an uncomfortable position to be in.

I've set the camera to Manual exposure mode.

So I stand up and to see what the exposure settings are, I light up the panel using the button and then adjust the aperture/shutter speed according to what the lit panel says it should be.

A few seconds later, I use the remote to release the shutter and take the picture.

Now when I review it, it is under exposed. What went wrong?

Alternatively, I might be shooting using P/A/V modes using the LCD panel light to let me know when I've dialed +2/3, then with the 10 second timer, wait for the shutter to release. The exposure is taken from the time that I locked it in with the panel lit up and is thus wrong.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1D C suggested price!!!
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:12:05 AM »
I'm pretty surprised by how many people want RAW 4k video on a shoestring budget.  Canon may be correct in pricing some people out of the market... I imagine a lot of cameras being returned once individuals realize that they can't possibly keep up with all that data.

I'd gladly sell my 5d3 and pay $8,000 for a 5d3 sized DSLR with true 1080p video detail similar to the C300.  I'm not ready to turn my house into a data center to shoot the micro-budget movies I can shoot.  I'm hoping Canon has something like this in line... you know, behind the other dozen cameras clogging the pipeline.

What I think is interesting is that the first camera was called the C300, not the C100 and that the second is being called the C500. Clearly there's space in the product labeling for a lesser camera that is a C100. Question is, when or if we will see it.

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At least we know why the 1D X was delayed... they had to patch all the holes in the firmware that would allow Magic Lantern to hack it into becoming a half-price 1D C.   ;D

Heh, that assumes that the 1DX and 1DC have the same internal hardware for processing video data. I suppose we don't yet know if that's true but this quote on dpreview gives us a hint that maybe it isn't:

"Canon won't be pinned down on the precise details of hardware differences but also says the 1D X might be subject to greater import duty into North America and the EU if an aftermarket firmware change would allow the recording of more than 29 minutes, 59 seconds of video, so this isn't a 1D X with extended video and 4K enabled in firmware."

... so what that tells me is that if you manufactured two cameras that cost the same to build but one could capture video for 45 minutes and the other 20 minutes, then the shelf price you would see as a consumer would be different due to the import duties.

And although your comment about the 1DX vs 1DC was meant as a joke, maybe there's an ounce of reality there?

Another perspective on this may be that Canon are keeping the video in DSLRs crippled so that they don't end up being categorised differently and thus attracting higher government duties and thus costing more.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1D C suggested price!!!
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:55:36 AM »
I think Canon missed the point on this one. The DSLR video popularity was not because we all really wanted DSLRs as video cameras. They SUCK for video. No ND filters, no xlr inputs, line skipping because of 18MP sensors, awkward body styles, manual zooms, horrible focusing options, no peaking, no articulating screens, bad audio control and preamps, crappy recording formats for editing and grading, and all kinds of other stuff. The reason we all got excited is we were able to get impressive video quality from a $500 t2i and even better quality from a $2500 5D mark II with only a $400 prime lens. No one wants a pro video DSLR for $15,000 with all of the same issues like lack of ND filters, high res sensors, no xlr inputs and horrible focusing options. I'll deal with those shortcomings in a cheap camera but for Gods sake, if you are going to make a pro video camera, make a freaking pro video camera with pro video camera features. I can't believe Canon would do this as a company who makes great video cameras. 8 years ago I had both their XL1 and GL1 video cameras and they rocked for less than $3000. If you can't improve video in your current DSLR cameras without vastly increasing the price, then do what Sony, RED, and Panasonic are doing and put that awesome full frame sensor into a real video camera. I guess that is what they were attempting to do with the C300 but that camera is way over priced as well.

I think you mistake these new cinema EOS cameras as being for people that think $15,000 for a professional video camera is too much.

Since you've mentioned RED, why don't you do some research and find out how much it costs to build a RED camera that is "ready" to shoot 4K video in the same way that the 1DC is? Or Sony? For example, even though Sony's camera costs less than $10,000, you need a special Sony storage device for 4K video. Think that they'll throw that in for nothing? No, I don't think so...

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I still think that if it had of been announced at $8k, people would have been saying "Why isn't it $4k?".

If you're a professional and this is what you need then you work on your budget and find a way to make it fit and bring it into your tool set, not complain that it is a few $ more than you've saved.

It's not about how much money you have saved, it's about which other companies offer a better product for less.

I have an affair with Canon, but their pricing on some of their newer items are just too high.
When others are doing it equally as good, if not better, FOR LESS, then why do I want to stick around.


Obviously, there are TONS of people out there who feel the same way.

If you received a 20% pay raise tomorrow, would you still feel aggrieved about the prices?

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