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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5DMk3 at wedding receptions
« on: April 04, 2013, 08:56:45 AM »
Try AF expansion. Avoid single point AF in extremely low light and Its worked good for me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 08:47:01 AM »
The 5D3 is not limiting me in anyway. I can print huge, it's fast, it's accurate, it's feels great to operate. It could indeed be my camera for the next 10 years if canon fixes minor issues with firmware.

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Lenses / Re: Migration from zooms to primes...your suggestions?
« on: April 04, 2013, 12:26:02 AM »
My choice was

24L II-50L-135L

But I've also seen

35L-85L-135L

I feel my combo is more flexible than the latter. It's wider when needed and the 50mm covers more stuff than a 35mm.

Generally, choose a wide, mid and tele lens. My only need is for the 135L to be IS and possibly f/1.8. Done.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 03, 2013, 04:14:34 PM »
It funny you mention buying new, then 6D cost 2100$ at BHphoto, which generally most purchase from. Bad value.

It's funny that you keep mentioning this, even though it's been pointed out several times in this very thread that that's not the price at B&H.  Looks like it's $1779 at B&H.

Yes, It's 1800$. I must have viewed an old page.

Not bad, but I can find mk2s locally for 1200$. Still A bad value.


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D as a Compliment to 5DMkiii
« on: April 03, 2013, 01:08:10 PM »
Skirball, can you simply let a different opinion/s alone? I was in the same spot of buy a 2nd 5d3 or the new 6D. It came down to saving that extra cash to buy what later on won't limit me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 03, 2013, 12:56:01 PM »

Because a 6D is a rebranded 5D2 with fluff performance wise. Why pay more for what essentially is a 5D2? Bad value.

Feel like I'm beating a dead horse here...I do not consider the ISO performance to be fluff.  Why would I waste $1400 on a body that would only be used in outdoor ceremonies?  A 6d is much more versatile than the 5d2 if you work in low light a lot.

The 5D2 was good in low-light from 3200-6400, and still is now. Not saying the 6D isn't better but once you downsize the NR-files to around 12mp print sizes, Its pretty close.

http://www.pixel-peeper.com/cameras/?camera=1113&perpage=12&iso_min=3200&iso_max=6400&exp_min=none&exp_max=none&res=3&digicam=0

Feel free to check those out. Plus, 6D's AF perfomance is nearly identical to the 5d2

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 03, 2013, 12:44:29 PM »
Give it atleast 60D 9 point all crosstype AF. A serious upgrade from the 5D2/5Dc/20D AF performance. That would have justified the price increase over the already decent 5D2.

It seems I stirred the pot with a pretty straightforward simplified opinion.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 03, 2013, 12:27:13 PM »
2000$ for 6D or 2375$ for a Refurbed MK3? You all are quibbling for the 500$ difference from the 5D2 to the 6D, which is minimal gains, while from the 6D to the 5D3 is day-night difference.  ???

Seriously man, I know you're completely prejudice against the 6D and too stubborn to admit you're wrong, but you're posts might hold more merit if you didn't shuffle around the numbers to try to support your points.

It's an opinion based on a 6D rental and the numbers I've already posted. Here's a snap from CL for that lens price.

If a friend said, "I'm going FF soon and ill be needing some glass too" I wouldn't recommend a 6D at the moment, perhaps if it was 1500$ body only brand new, but that make the excellent 5d2 around 1000-1200 at that point.

It should have had all the points cross type. Even the rebel has that now.

What I love about this is that you tell us not to quibble over $500 (for your fabled is available anywhere refurb 5d3 deal), while a 6d can be had for just shy of $1800.  Back in january, not to far in the past, $1900 was considered a good price for a 5d2!!!!  So with that said, how could you NOT recommend the 6d????

Because a 6D is a rebranded 5D2 with fluff performance wise. Why pay more for what essentially is a 5D2? Bad value.

Because I don't want to buy used, and I like some of the fluff.    It wasn't a bad value when that was the only option, now it's slightly better and cheaper, and it (and the 5D3) created a large used market of 5d2.  Sounds like a win all around to me.

You like some of the fluff, don't you recall one of the reasons I said a user would want a 6D? Are you understanding now?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 03, 2013, 12:18:19 PM »
2000$ for 6D or 2375$ for a Refurbed MK3? You all are quibbling for the 500$ difference from the 5D2 to the 6D, which is minimal gains, while from the 6D to the 5D3 is day-night difference.  ???

Seriously man, I know you're completely prejudice against the 6D and too stubborn to admit you're wrong, but you're posts might hold more merit if you didn't shuffle around the numbers to try to support your points.

It's an opinion based on a 6D rental and the numbers I've already posted. Here's a snap from CL for that lens price.

If a friend said, "I'm going FF soon and ill be needing some glass too" I wouldn't recommend a 6D at the moment, perhaps if it was 1500$ body only brand new, but that make the excellent 5d2 around 1000-1200 at that point.

It should have had all the points cross type. Even the rebel has that now.

What I love about this is that you tell us not to quibble over $500 (for your fabled is available anywhere refurb 5d3 deal), while a 6d can be had for just shy of $1800.  Back in january, not to far in the past, $1900 was considered a good price for a 5d2!!!!  So with that said, how could you NOT recommend the 6d????

Because a 6D is a rebranded 5D2 with fluff performance wise. Why pay more for what essentially is a 5D2? Bad value.

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CF > SD

C'mon. Stop supporting CF tech. SD is catching up in a more reliable and convenient package and on top of that its less expensive. At the current speeds they both are way passed practical speeds from what current cameras offer. Let CF die...

My d30 is CF only and I need to support CF until another format like XQD is adopted on canon. SD really sucks on the mk3.

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I give it a sniff test and the old tire kick test. Usually followed by a series of shots on most AF points and all servo modes, etc.

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8X10, 4X5, 617,612,69,68,67,66,645,35
bigger is better... or used to be.

If they made an 4x5 sensor or 8x10 sensor that behaved just like film. We wouldn't even be talking about d800s.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Crazy... go Nikon?
« on: April 02, 2013, 11:18:46 PM »
Aglet, how about you provide us a beautiful RAW file that you spend time, effort, and possibly money to get first? Please do show us the very best d800 RAW file of you very best work and then I promise I will do the same.

It must be your best, no less.

how about something easier, you show us some 100 iso test shots from your 5d2.... if you still have it.
Blank sheet of white paper, exposed at 1 EV values from +4 to -10, no Lum or Chroma NR, black level crusher set to ZERO, pushed in ACR or LR, until visible banding appears at 100%
Show us what EV levels you no longer get FPN.
Do and post that, then I'll do the same with a $400 Nikon.
OK, you go'head and do yours.  We're waiting. :)

Just like your avatar, you spoke first and loudly. How can you expect of others w/o you doing the same first? Give us your best work out of the d800 and Ill try to match one of equal caliber out of my canon camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 10:39:36 PM »
2000$ for 6D or 2375$ for a Refurbed MK3? You all are quibbling for the 500$ difference from the 5D2 to the 6D, which is minimal gains, while from the 6D to the 5D3 is day-night difference.  ???

Seriously man, I know you're completely prejudice against the 6D and too stubborn to admit you're wrong, but you're posts might hold more merit if you didn't shuffle around the numbers to try to support your points.

It's an opinion based on a 6D rental and the numbers I've already posted. Here's a snap from CL for that lens price.

If a friend said, "I'm going FF soon and ill be needing some glass too" I wouldn't recommend a 6D at the moment, perhaps if it was 1500$ body only brand new, but that make the excellent 5d2 around 1000-1200 at that point.

It should have had all the points cross type. Even the rebel has that now.

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Lenses / Re: New or Refurbished Lens?
« on: April 02, 2013, 06:11:54 PM »
Refurb's to me are a freebie savings. Why not? Unless its grey market. :|

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