« on: September 09, 2013, 12:49:35 PM »
Leaving aside the differences and discussion between perpetual license and actual ownership of software
You can't leave it aside. It's a fact.
While I agree with most of what you say, if you want the upgrades from CS3 or CS4, this is a good deal. CS5 it maybe worth waiting.
My understanding is that LR will continue to be marketed as a standalone product, and as part of CC. The rest of CC will not. As I understand it, CS6 is to be the last release in the "CS" series. If all you want is LR this is not a good deal. If you use PS, this is a good deal.
LR, while used by many pros, is positioned to compete with Aperture and other programs like that, which are in large use by non-professionals as well.
BTW, LR versions 4 and 5 were 14 months apart. Version 5 is really an improvement to me. Who knows when 6 will come out?
Adobe's target is not people who do not want to spend $10/month on their software. That is plain and simple.
I'm all in favor of free and open source software (FOSS), but the truth is, my FreeBSD 9.1 desktop that I mostly use as an NAS device, can't beat my Mac.
And again, I'll point out, there is no guarantee that your version of PS will work on the next version of your OS, or the one after that. As long as you are happy with it though, there is no point in CC. I will say that I have generally done an upgrade every other CS cycle. I was still on CS4 and was considering CS6 or waiting since I also was content. With the incentive I got, CC made sense for me. The CS4 to CC upgrade will likely cost me less than the upgrade to CS6 would have, and eventually I would have had to move to CC if I wanted newer features, say in three years or so. Instead, I got the newest LR and PS, and a few things that I use only on occasion. I also get upgrades regularly and semi-automatically with the cloud app that runs on my Mac.
My frustration here is not with you or with Cayenne, but rather a general one. This is a gearhead forum. Let's take you for instance. Again, not to pick on you, but you have the following listed in your signature:Quote5D mark 2, 5D mark 3, EF 17-40mm f/4L, EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, EF 135mm f/2L, EF 85mm f/1.8
That's perhaps over $7000 worth of gear that you use to make images. By this forum's standards that may be less than average.
I find it so incredibly ironic that people with so many thousands of dollars worth of gear don't find the software that they use regularly to be worth $10/month. Not just you, but so many people in this thread. C'mon now. How many of you smoke? Subscribe to HBO? Subscribe to Netflix?
I understand it's a change, a paradigm shift for many of you, but look at the numbers. They aren't big.
Well, you can run any version of your OS in a VM (Virtual Machine) as long as you like and that will take care of supporting your version of PS or any other bit of software that might possibly become unable to run with newer OS updates.
And renting things that you will not need again, is often accepted. I generally see a movie ONCE and never have a need for it again. The few I do want to watch over and over again, I have the option of buying for using as often as I wish.
Renting software used to generate output...is NOT good for the rental paradigm, since if you quit paying, your works YOU created and own, are now no longer accessible to you. That is the main concern that you seem to have difficulty in understanding. This is different than renting a car or a netflix subscription, this hold YOUR work hostage...those other examples you give do not.
Other companies are literally salivating at the possibility of renting rather than selling software (and lets not get into the semantic arguments about owning software or a perpetual license, I'm talking about you buy it and are free to use it in perpetuity without ever paying the company another cent)......MS has tried this somewhat in the past, as have other companies and have been rebuked by the consumer.
The only way to combat this *is* with your wallet. That is the ONLY thing a publicly traded company will listen to, as that the customer is not their primary concern, they only are beholden to their shareholders. So, if you don't protest with your wallet, then sure...the battle is lost and many other companies will jump on this bandwagon, which most everyone can see, is not good for the consumer.
Once they have you locked into this paradigm of renting you software, and holding your intellectual property you created with the tools 'hostage'...what is to stop them from jacking up the prices as they wish, and what incentive is there for them to keep trying to innovate and come up with improvements in a quick fashion? Nothing.