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Alot of people are mentioning problems they've had in far off exotic places. I find that the WORST problems I've had are right here in North America.

Recently was in a nice quiet neighbourhood trying out a new lens, taking a shot of a road and bridge (sun was out, bright blue sky, a few clouds). A van drove up to me and asked what I was doing. I told them I was taking a picture. They then proceeded to claim (very aggressively) that it's illegal to take a picture of them and that I'd be in trouble.

Little more detail here: this was a quiet residential area road. They were about half a mile away when I took the shot (never mind I was shooting with an 8mm lens...). Their aggressive attitude was astonishing. I told them I deleted the shot with them "in it" (the tiny spec that they were) and walked away. They drove off, only to return a few minutes latter, stopping in the middle of the road and taking a picture of me with their camera phone? I just smiled and kept walking.

People seem to have this impression that ANY picture taken of them (even if they are half a mile away behind tinted windows) without "permission" is illegal, and they get VERY aggressive about it if you look like anything beyond a kid with a camera phone.

Was in a best buy once trying out a camera (one of the Samsung WiFi cameras) and this guy walks up to me saying he's calling the cops cause I took a pic of him. It wasn't even my camera...

Wow...that's very interesting. I've yet to encounter something like this before.

Then again, I live in New Orleans, where cameras are pretty common out and about with all the tourists, maybe that and the laid back attitude down here keeps it friendly, but honestly, I've never heard of this type reaction or aggression before till this thread.

C

497
Be aware that Lightroom 5 is in Beta testing and will be released soon.  You would be buying something that will be obsolete in a month or two.
 
You can download the Lightroom 5 Beta free and use it until its released.   
 
Once Lightroom 5 is released, LR4 will no longer be updated, which means no support for new camera models.

Ahh...that explains the sale prices then.
:)

Hmm...I might give the beta a look at...

I guess I'd better get busy and pull the trigger on the last of the non-cloud Adobe stuff ( like CS6 Production) before it goes away...

C

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I'm thinking about trying this...dunno what the other software does, but LR 4 for $69 full version seems a good deal?

I've been using Aperture 3....and wondering if Lightroom might be fun to play with too for this price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1328344

Plus, it appears if you do this you also can do a mail in rebate on top of this for a $20 gift card from NewEgg towards a new purchase?

cayenne

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: 600EX-RT speedlite deals?
« on: May 28, 2013, 02:07:41 PM »
I wish there was a way to have an email notification be sent when they're in stock or something. That $370 price tag sure is a bargain. Guess I'll just have to keep checking every 5 minutes...

Just sign up to have CanonPriceWatch.com notify you by email when they are in stock.

I signed up for it....but got the email a bit too late the first time they came on...

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How do they get away with that then?

Some laws make exceptions on people of public interest.
Check yours to get all the details.

I've read controversial opinions about whether some laws prohibit even taking the picture without permission.
Then there's group shots, which may or may not allow publication.
Get rid of the humans and you still cannot sell that night shot of the Eiffel Tower.
etc.

=/

If there's anything useful one gets out of this discussion is the guilt of lost time that one did not use to take pictures.

Wait...

If I go to Paris and shoot the Effel Tower, and come home...how are they going to prevent me from selling that image?

C

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Well, given that so many people on this and other forums have acknowledged that they are several generations behind would indicate to me that Adobe has been having a hard time finding compelling new features to add for quite some time.

Frankly, I kind of welcomed the fact that they seemed to be slowing down. It was frustrating when they were going through their periods when they felt compelled to redesign the interface with each new version.

Wouldn't it be funny if the whole Creative Cloud thing was just a scam to push people who are still using CS 1, 2, 3 etc., to finally upgrade to CS 6? Next May they could announce that they have "listened" to their customers and will be offering new permanent licenses, maybe on a delayed schedule (you can buy a permanent license for the Creative Cloud 2013 version beginning in Jan. 2015, etc.).

Just kidding of course.

Hey, maybe so....

I mean, remember way back when with the "new" coke debacle? They caused and uproar, and then brought coke "classic" back to us....

I always thought that was a bit of a publicity stunt...I might be wrong tho.

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If you publish a picture of someone without a release and the subject finds out, they can come after you.  Find a good lawyer.


As far as I kow, this is only true if the image is used for commercial advertising purposes.  They can try to sue you of course, but to what end?  To most, the money gained from the lawsuit would be far less than the cost of hiring a lawyer and going to court.  People are sue happy, when they know they can make a buck.  So unless you are making a killing off of selling that photo for a billboard display, the likelyhood of legal action just isn't there.

So, how do the Hollywood paparazzi get away with it all? I mean, I'm pretty sure they're not getting signed releases from Lohan or the like in the embarrassing pics they take of them....and they DO sell those images for commercial use (TMZ, magazines, etc).

And anyone that gets in the news, they get pics taken and I'm sure they get paid for them, people that are maybe only famous for their 15 minutes, but people sell pics of them, and I'm guessing many don't get model release forms signed.

How do they get away with that then?

Very short version:

There is a fundamental difference between commercial use, and news and editorial usage. If you take a picture in a public place of Justin Bieber you can sell it to a "news"  outlet for news or editorial use, you cannot use it in an advert for hair gel. If you hire Justin Bieber and get the releases you can use the images to sell hair gel.

So....could I shoot people in public, and post them for sale on my website "listed" as for use in news/editorial only to sell them.

What people do with them after I sell them the images aren't "my" concern, right?

:)

C

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: 600EX-RT speedlite deals?
« on: May 28, 2013, 01:15:33 PM »
I got them in today! Sweetness. They are going to have a long, hard life with me. :D

Dang...
I"m really kicking myself for not getting at least a 2nd one....

I've been watching all long holiday weekend, and no more came up on the refurbs list...
:(

504

If you publish a picture of someone without a release and the subject finds out, they can come after you.  Find a good lawyer.


As far as I kow, this is only true if the image is used for commercial advertising purposes.  They can try to sue you of course, but to what end?  To most, the money gained from the lawsuit would be far less than the cost of hiring a lawyer and going to court.  People are sue happy, when they know they can make a buck.  So unless you are making a killing off of selling that photo for a billboard display, the likelyhood of legal action just isn't there.

So, how do the Hollywood paparazzi get away with it all? I mean, I'm pretty sure they're not getting signed releases from Lohan or the like in the embarrassing pics they take of them....and they DO sell those images for commercial use (TMZ, magazines, etc).

And anyone that gets in the news, they get pics taken and I'm sure they get paid for them, people that are maybe only famous for their 15 minutes, but people sell pics of them, and I'm guessing many don't get model release forms signed.

How do they get away with that then?

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A friend of mine's daughter is just graduating HS. She's very artistic, and does paintings, and also like photography.

Last year for Xmas, they got her a Powershot sx20 is. I looked it up, and found you can't change lenses on it, as that I'd thought to buy her a nice lens.

I'm looking at the specs....I'm getting the feeling this camera only shoots jpg, is that correct?

If this is the case, then, I'm kind of puzzled as to what software to maybe buy for her.

I see Lightroom on newegg bundled with other stuff for about $69.  On amazon, I see a bundle of photoshop elements and premier elemets for about $83.

Which would she get the most use out of?  I kind of had the feeling that if you didn't have RAW, then Lightroom likely wouldn't be as valuable to you?

The camera appears to shoot 720p....for video.

Can this camera take an external mic? Maybe a rode video mic would be nice?

Looks like this thing only takes SD cards...are there any limits to what cards this can take (size/speed)?

Thank you,

cayenne

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why is my 5D3 so noisy???
« on: May 23, 2013, 10:19:29 PM »
When shooting higher iso's, ETTR is an absolute 100% must.
Right from the start I've been astounded how much detail there is in 5D3 highlights before they blow to 255.

Modified technique on your part should deliver fantastic high iso 5D3 image files.

-PW

Thank you all so much for the replies.

I'm not familiar with ETTR...what is that?

This was one photo that I gave the camera to my Dad to shoot so I could be in one or two pics.
Most of them shot with f9 towards him, with a window that had sun coming in on one side, and I wanted to have depth of field behind him.  But even those shots...were VERY noisy...very!

I don't believe I have any noise reduction in camera turned on....

I only shoot raw. I have Aperture 3..and trying to use the noise reduction on that...but doesn't seem to be doing much of anything.
:(

I'll try to find a representative shot of him, which was more indicative of what I was really shooting with these settings.



Thank you,

C

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Interesting...I was starting to watch a Syl video on the Canon site, made when the 600 was just newly released...or shortly after, and he mentioned that he definitily was going to do an update to the book to include the 600 stuff.

If Syl changed his mind it's probably because 1/4th of the book and lots of diagrams is about getting optical remote to work, either with his ettl cables or with clever tilting the heads so the slaves see the master ... part of this has become obsolete with the 600rt, so he probably decided against a large update after all.

Still, it's a great book and I can only recommend it to anyone, there's little stuff about the 580ex(2) you cannot directly apply to the new flash.

Thanks for the input!!!
I bought it and should be here tomorrow (I love amazon prime)....

I'm wanting to learn how to do a lot of manual, hoping this book gets me on the right track there....

C

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Why is my 5D3 so noisy???
« on: May 23, 2013, 07:04:57 PM »
I've been seeing a LOT of my shots lately, come out with a ton of noise, on stills  and even video it seems.

This is is at ISO4000, and I've seen others post at this high with no problems like I'm seeing.

This is one of many, I've got some that were ISO 1000...and just as noisy and grainy as this one.

I've not altered this at all, straight out of the camera, underexposed, etc....but even with post I can't fix this.

Any suggestions what I've got going wrong here that causes my 5D3 to be so noisy?

Thanks in advance...I'm still (obviously) quite the noob.

cayenne

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I remember seeing one of the Syl Arena videos earlier this year, and he stated that was not going to update the Speedliter's Handbook.  If anything, the 600 is more intuitive (menu-wise) than the 580.  However, the book is still an interesting/useful read.  I tried to borrow a copy from the library system but that failed, so I had to buy my own copy.

I got my st-e3 off Ebay for 250.  It does not seem to be "rebatable", so its price has remained near 300 for a while.  Going with the st-e3 or the ettl cord is a good idea.  I was using the 600 to command the 430 optically, but the on-axis preflash was too bright for what I was trying to do.  Depending on the cost of the cable, it might be better to bite the bullet and get the a second 600 or a st-e3.

Interesting...I was starting to watch a Syl video on the Canon site, made when the 600 was just newly released...or shortly after, and he mentioned that he definitily was going to do an update to the book to include the 600 stuff.

That being said, last night, I ordered that long cable, and the book and with amazon prime, will be here Friday.

Now...hoping that somehow my flash will be delivered by this weekend too!
:)

C

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Hi!

Just a thought that came to my mind, that has nothing to do with the cost for us consumers:

Does anybody else fear, too, that Adobe might slow down development of Creative Cloud apps in future?

Reasoning behind is that with the CC subscription model customers will provide a continuous cash flow to Adobe, no matter if new features are introduced into the apps or not, whereas in the Creative Suite model Adobe was forced to develop new features interesting enough to motivate customers to upgrade to the new version.

In the CC model, what would stop Adobe from firing half the developers, thus slashing costs in half, when the cash flow is guaranteed anyway?

Just a thought.

I would pretty much assume this to be the case. They really have no incentive like they do with rolling out a 'new release'....at least the fire under them likely won't be lit so much since they'll be the only game in town, with constant rental $$'s coming in, and they pretty much have your files (psd) held hostage if you don't continue to pay them...

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