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EOS Bodies / Re: Why are you buying the 1D X?
« on: July 10, 2012, 11:04:06 PM »

I'll say one thing.  I deeply wish instead of the 5D3 it had been a 1Ds IV and they didn't "merge" the 1D and 1Ds lines.  I really wish it had been the 1Ds 3 with very high ISO capabilities and auto ISO in manual mode.  Valid points.


Hello everyone - To get right to the point....

Auto focus points - Is it me or does it seem that canon has jumped on the bandwagon with an overwhelming amount of auto focus points? 

Honestly, when i'm photographing anything from Seniors to Weddings...engagements...the whole sha-bang, I can't stand using just the center point as many photographers do, but rather I am constantly dialing between all points re-positioning my camera to get the shot. 

(a quick note before low-light photographers jump in on the conversation...When I photograph in low-light situations, the primes come out and I use the AF on the back of the camera (center focus) and hold my focal length in order to focus and re-position)

So, here's my beef...what good is it to have 61 auto focus points when you shoot like me...and use them all the time.  Would I have to dial all through them just to get the focus area and then miss the shot?  Is this a gimmick? Similarly to the Megapixel wars? Just to entice those on the fence?

Before landscapers join in, too... most successful landscape photographers are usually shooting in manual, so please don't bother commenting on how they use all their AF points...because that's BS. 

So, let me recap - landscape photogs shoot in manual or set a "Range" to focus on...low light can focus using the center focus and recompose their shot...weddings photogs either use a focus/Recompose or selective AF points...

Is the 61 AF points really just for those who were suckered into purchasing an expensive camera and can only set it to Automatic? 

One last thing....Please don't mistake my humorous demeanor for the need to respond with erroneous and illegitimate information...I am honestly curious how other photographers feel about useless AF Points.



Oh my you don't understand how these other AF points work.  Go shoot sports with a 5D Mark III with either a 50L or 85L prime on it and you'll learn very quickly why they matter, and what each type (vertical and horizontal) does. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Why are you buying the 1D X?
« on: July 10, 2012, 10:23:19 PM »
My Mark II 1Ds  is ten years Old  I Will be on a whole new planet  With  iso From hell  !!!!!!! 8)

Lord Gary, here this whole time I thought you were still shooting film :) :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Why are you buying the 1D X?
« on: July 10, 2012, 10:22:19 PM »
For those of you who have purchased a 1D X, I'm curious as to why?  What makes it worth it to you? 

For me it was a combination of mild disappointment with the 5D3 spec and the desire (and ability) to have the best I could.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 5D3 is an exceptional machine, but I wanted a bit more from a 5D2 upgrade and the 1Dx fits the bill.  It is a no-compromise system with a pro build, the absolute best AF system available and the best ISO performance as well.

I was saving for the 5D3 and had a bit of a windfall that allowed me to reach a bit higher.  I considered the 5D3 when introduced, but it wasn't enough to sway me.

What other upgrades were you looking for when you went away from the 5D II and were considering a 5D III?  For me, the AF improvements (drastic), plus being able to do AUTO ISO in manual mode at all possible ISO values, HDR, and Multi-Exposure, I'm not sure what else there would be as an "upgrade" without completely crossing into a different camera line.  In fact, I don't know how they could have possibly upgraded the 5D Mark II any more than they did.  I wish it had the color rendition of the 1Ds III at low ISO value.  Maybe I'm just wishing there were a 1Ds Mark IV :) 

EOS Bodies / Re: Why are you buying the 1D X?
« on: July 10, 2012, 07:02:54 PM »
I have two 5D Mark III's that I use extensively.  I print big pictures for people and I can tell the difference between 22mp and 18mp.  The 5D3 performs superbly at high ISO's, whereas the 1Ds III didn't.  The autofocus is very fast.

I also am buying the 1D X.  Why?  Well, shooting indoor basktball with my 1D Mark IV makes it very difficult to shoot at ISO 3200 and 6400 without a lot of post-processing NR.  I need that feature, because I waste a lot of time applying NR.  Imagine getting pressure to jpeg your photos to your laptop and then send them on.  I can do that hopefully with the 1D X with no or minimal NR processing.  Obviously the shutter lag and fps is superior to the 1D 4. 

So both cameras fit my needs.  I won't use my 1D X at weddings believe it or not; I'll be taking my two 5D Mark III's because it can perform at a high enough ISO for me and has more resolution.  The 1D X is going to all sports/action with 1D 4 for backup.  Why not the 5D3 for backup at sports you may ask?  5D 3 doesn't have spot metering at active AF point which is very, very useful during sports believe it or not.  It can make the difference between a properly exposed player vs. silhoutted player. 

As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses.  Is the 1D X really worth $6800?  Well, I don't know, but remember the 1Ds III in 2007 retailed for $7999.  Even worse, so did the 1Ds II in 2005!  So yes it probably is worth it.

BOTH cameras will do AUTO ISO in full manual mode.  I believe the 1D X will let you shoot in Av mode, minimum shutter speed, auto ISO, and access to exposure compensation, all 4.  I've tried that on my 1D Mark IV so there are advantages to 1D bodies. 

Lenses / Re: How much for a used Canon 200mm f/2.0L IS?
« on: July 10, 2012, 02:48:07 PM »
I got one at B&H 6mo ago 5,700 love it !!

B&H's next shipment is estimated for July 31.  I've had mine on pre-order for awhile now and can't wait to get it. 

Lenses / Re: How much for a used Canon 200mm f/2.0L IS?
« on: July 10, 2012, 01:53:51 PM »
Lowest I've seen is $5000-$5500.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX new all-time low-light king?
« on: July 10, 2012, 01:51:50 PM »
No longer just mine:

and big shocker.... he gets the same thing  ;)

(note that he did not normalize for ISO or MP so the 1DX and 5D2 look a bit better on that chart compared to the 5D3 than they do in reality, particularly note that the 5D3 DOES beat the 5D2 for high iso DR once you shift the 5D2 chart to account for it rating ISOs differently)

his charts shows that they did improve high ISO DR a lot in the 1DX though so it won't fall behind in DR there compared to D3s or D4, so yeah, ignoring a bit of color-blindness  ;), the 1DX should be all time low light king with probably about tied for best DR at high ISO (with D3s and D4) and best luminance SNR (perhaps by 1/3 stop maybe 1/2 stop over D4???) and with many more MP than D3s (making 'grain' look much better and allowing for more NR while maintaining the same detail).

So who's the winner? I'm interested in a camera for street portrait photography. What would be the best thing to use to get great skin tones in Canon lineup? Does the 1Ds Mk III remain the best thing for this?

The 1Ds3 is superior ISO 50-200.  Above 200 the 5D3 is better.

Lenses / Re: Which L lens will be the first mark III?
« on: July 10, 2012, 12:46:15 PM »
Not answering the question here, but I'd say we'll definitely see the 35 f/1.2L II lens before another Mark III.  I could very well be wrong, but this is just my guess based upon all the current lenses there are.  My perfect lens though would be a 65 or 70mm f/1.4L lens.  :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Should I get 7D now or wait for MKII?
« on: July 10, 2012, 12:33:29 PM »
The only thing the 7D won't do is do well in low light.  Daytime shots, or with a flash indoors, you're fine.  Afterall, the 7D is THE best APS-C sensor camera Canon sells at this time.  I really liked the AF went I had mine.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: July 10, 2012, 12:01:56 PM »
I was prohibited from using a flash last night and shot several frams at ISO 12,800 on my 5D Mark III and only applied 20% NR and the noise was gone.  I can't complain.
This is really good! I would never try 12800 with my 5DMkII. The top ISO I use is 6400.
Did you use Lightroom or photoshop?

I ask because it has been said that only Canon's DPP latest versions exhibit the maximum sharpness... (reported on other threads on this site a few months ago)

Even better.  All I literally did was import it to Adobe Camera RAW, apply NR, and saved it to maximum JPEG.  I'll show you later when I get home.

EOS Bodies / Re: 3D or 2D really possible?
« on: July 10, 2012, 11:45:00 AM »
I'd be hard-pressed to believe that Canon would produce another $5k camera right now with the 1D X just out.  They'll go for a bigger, lower-priced market right now.  Even the 1Ds3 and 1D4 were spaced out over 2.5 years.

I was thinking that if they got the IQ right then they would capture the lower end MF market - 5k seems a bargain compared to even the Pentax 945

Agreed.  In 2-3 years I'd say a direct/comparible replacement to the 1Ds Mark III.  Right now we don't have it.  The 1D X is not it.

EOS Bodies / Re: 3D or 2D really possible?
« on: July 10, 2012, 11:24:50 AM »
I'd be hard-pressed to believe that Canon would produce another $5k camera right now with the 1D X just out.  They'll go for a bigger, lower-priced market right now.  Even the 1Ds3 and 1D4 were spaced out over 2.5 years.

Lenses / Re: 50mm 1.4 or 40mm 2.8?
« on: July 10, 2012, 11:14:04 AM »
If I had a strict choice between the two, I'd get the 40mm lens.  Why?  First, it's cheap.  Second, it's sharp.  Third, it's 64mm on your camera which is pretty good.  However, as RLPhoto hinted at, what focal length do you need?  I would be happy with 64mm, but really the reason I shoot all FF is because when I buy a 40mm lens, I prefer not to deal with a crop factor for most shots.  I have a 1D4 because I don't mind the crop factor for sports.  So it really depends on what you need.  Picking between your two choices though, I would personally pick the 40mm.

EOS Bodies / Re: 840 1DX Coming to B&H!!
« on: July 10, 2012, 11:10:14 AM »
Thank you.  I've been keeping it a secret this whole time but I pre-ordered one too  8).  Obviously if I receive it soon I will be selling some of my cameras.  Or maybe I'll just become a camera junkie  :P.

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