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I'd buy a 6D.  I'm not sure what you heard that was bad about it.  AF is consistent, its a good camera for a low price.  Certainly, a 1DsIII is excellent, but relatively expensive, and has the same flash shoe which can have the same issue.

I saw a Brownie Hawkeye at the flea market this weekend.  That was my first camera a 'few' years ago, takes me back to the 'darkroom' in a bathroom.  I wonder if there will be a similar degree of change in photography in the next 50 years - full sensory recording wired to the brain or some such. 

Okay - getting back to the FF/crop discussion.   Again?  Haven't we hashed this out enough?  You say tomayto I say tomahto.
I was started on the Brownie as well, it was the early 1950's, then a Yashica TLR, and then a Argus C3 before buying my First Canon FT-QL in the 1960's.  Just between 1998 and 2013, the camera world has been turned on its head, I expect that in the next 20 years, we will see big changes, and yes, there will be things that seem like crazy dreams now.  Quite a bit of work is being done to link up cameras to the brains of people who are blind, for example, and that research will start to pay off sooner than we think.

EOS Bodies / Re: Cost of Canon 5D mk III
« on: February 04, 2013, 06:46:25 PM »
For a lot of us, the canon 5D mk iii is too expensive.  If you compare features between canon $3300 paid in average for this camera is way too expensive, if you compare between canon and nikon it does make sense at all either. Honestly the real price currently for this camera should be $2500 top.  Why is so high? Canon are you listening?  I want this camera but I am stuck in buying the 6d!
You should buy the 6D.  Its lenses where you want to invest your dollars.  I bought my 5D MK III for 2750 in a Adorama deal on ebay and got enough in ebay bucks to buy a extra battery.
When you calculate the net cost of a camera, include the price of a system with similar performance and lenses.  Unfortunately, many Nikon lenses cost more and are inferior, so you need to plan before you buy or suffer the consequences.  Nikon does have a few very good lenses, but nothing comparible to the 24-105mmL, or the 100-400mmL, or the 400mm f/5.6L, the list of lenses that are poorer as well as more expensive is long.  If you add the cost of software that is free with your canon camera as well as working better, that also levels the price.
So, decide on a system that does what you need, and then compare prices.  It can go either way, depending on what you need.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D4x rumors,
« on: February 04, 2013, 06:37:24 PM »
It doesn't make sense for Nikon to spend millions of dollars to develop their own 36 mp sensor just for a low volume body.  Particularly not when they can slip in the 36mp sensor from Sony.  All the Camera makers are struggling, and money is tight.  I'd give a chief engineer a quick trip to the unemployment line if he suggested something like this without a very good reason (ROI).  However, Nikon is doing some strange things and paying for it in slow sales and reduced profits.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: New MFA method
« on: February 04, 2013, 06:32:24 PM »
Liveview AF (contrast Detect), at least on the 5D MK II and 7D  has turned out to be inaccurate and inconsistent.  The focus method described was one I used a couple of years back, its nothing new.  Unfortunately, it is unreliable because it assumes thet Contrest Dect AF is accurate, but it has been shown to have errors, so much that FoCal had to change their software to accomodate the errors.
The most accurate methods still need about 10 shots setting the lens AF back to infinity or MFD and then throwing out obvious errors in focusing and averaging the others.  Then, most shots will be in focus, but there will always be a few outliers. The 6D seem to have more accurate CD focus, the 5D MK II and 7D tends to be worse.  The figures for the 5D MK III are not in yet.
I'd avoid this method if you have a 5D MK II or a 7D.  FoCal which allows you to take a large number of shots at each AFMA setting is a great tool for ignoring obvious AF errors and picking the correct setting that gives the highest number of in focus shots.

EOS Bodies / Re: on the verge of buying, just need some final moral support
« on: February 04, 2013, 06:19:26 PM »
I wouldn't worry too much about a body, all Canon FF bodies are very good.  Its lenses where your investment will be, and you will or should plan on spending much more on lenses than on a camera body.
A good lens and 6D are far better than a cheap lens and 5D MK III that have the same total cost.
Get a 6D and 24-105mmL and you will have a lens to last for several bodies, for example.  Then build on your lens collection with a wide aperture prime, and a telephoto zoom as you can afford to.  A macro lens is another nice thing, but it can wait.

Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4... DOH!!!
« on: February 04, 2013, 11:50:39 AM »

Windows 8 will cause much pain and suffering - save yourself!
How did it cause you pain and suffering?  I have 7 windows 7 pc's plus the new Windows 8 DELL XPS I bought a month ago.  I did buy Start 8 for $4.99, and now its like Windows 7 as far as the UI goes.  I like the quick launch like XP had, and thats restored the same way as it is in Windows 7.  Windows 8 does take a couple of hours to figure out, I had to research GPT Drives in order to clone the oem hard drive to my SSD,  and learn how to close a program, but its all Windows 7 underneath, except its a bit faster and some issues seem to be smoothed out. 

Lenses / Re: Is the 70-200 f2.8 IS USM II rebate still on? ...maybe...
« on: February 04, 2013, 11:35:46 AM »
Sometimes stores seem to leave the rebate up for a day or two.  Canon is not going to give them the rebate unless they cheat and change the date of sale that they submit to Canon.  Stores must give the rebate to the customer up front, and then submit all of the purchases and dates to Canon and wait for a rebate.  It ends up costing them $$ in interest.

Site Information / Re: Moderators: You are Too Sensitive
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:48:46 PM »
In college one summer, I worked for Canada Dry Bottling Co. Does that count? ;D
Check out the history of the company, your citizenship will be really difficult to prove.  Canada Dry seems to have been passed around from Company to Company over the years.  You are as of now, a Texan. ;)

Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4... DOH!!!
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:42:32 PM »
Ugh, I just bought Lightroom 4 and to my horror, it is not comptatible with XP!!!

After the release of Vista, I swore to myself that I would stick with XP (which I really like) for as long as I can. Well after 12 years of faithful XP use, it looks like my travels have come to an end.

Now, mind you I am running a new system (AMD Phenom II X4 965, OC'ed to 3.8Ghz) DDR 3 memory, etc... but I have just resisted upgrading to Windows Vista (Gag! Yuck!), 7 or now even 8 for YEARS. :) (Call me a rebel...)

Well, that has come to a quick end with the purchase of Lightroom 4. Now, my question is, which is better? Windows 7 or 8? Any thoughts?

Do not assume that your new computer is fully Windows 8 compatible.  They do not sell full versions of Windows 8, just upgrades.  OK, there is a system builder edition, but its renamed because it assumes you are a professional system builder and test/debug your hardware with Windows 8 before going into production.
This is one time where just buying a new Dell XPS for $700 is a good idea if you want Windows 8.
Assuming your hardware will fully support it, get Windows 8.  It is faster and has some features like support for larger hard drives, and GPT format.  This is not trivial, you may have a tough time trying to make copies of a Windows 8 hard drive unless you upgrade other software.  Readup on GPT format, you might not want to go there yet, but its coming sooner or later.
The good news is that you will be good for several more years.
As to the interface, just purchase Start 8 for $4.99 and get the old start menu back.  A relative is a Microsoft Manager, and he uses it on all his pc's.  If you do not have a touch monitor, you need the start menu.
Windows 7 is going to be easier to learn, because the interface is familiar.  I have both.  It took me 2-3 hours to become fairly proficient with Windows 8, but there are just some things that do not seem to make sense without a touch screen.  You will find some software and some drivers that are not updated, and never will be.
Windows 7 is safe, lots of drivers now, but there will be older scanners, etc that are not supported, particularly with 64 bit.  You do want 64 bit!!

Site Information / Re: Moderators: You are Too Sensitive
« on: February 03, 2013, 09:47:10 PM »

Indeed, and while I guess US law would apply to CR
Nope, CR is in Canada.   Those who post are responsible for their own posts, but the moderators try to make it a plesant place to carry on reasonable conversations about photography.
They even let some of the US citizens like Neuro and myself post here.  My son was born in Toronto and has a Canadian father, so I guess that makes me part Canadian - eh :)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Donating 20D to charity
« on: February 03, 2013, 07:21:24 PM »
For tax purposes, you can claim about $200-300 with the lens.  If you were selling it on Craigslist, You'd probably get no more than $200 depending on how good a salesman you are.
It would be a excellent gift for a school.

Lenses / Re: Resistance to Larger Filter Size, Kills Great Lenses?
« on: February 03, 2013, 03:17:11 PM »
I've never heard that one either, but a larger front element would boost the price a lot for a relatively small difference in size, perhaps even double the price.  Those large lens elements ground to less than a millionth of a inch accuracy get insanely expensive as they get larger.  The cost of a larger filter would only be a few hundred dollars.

EOS Bodies / Re: making a case for that crop body camera
« on: February 03, 2013, 12:14:19 PM »
Good used 7D's often sell for well under $1000, so they are a bargain.  Some lenses perform better on APS-C, but some do better on FF. 
Like Neuro, my 7D no longer got any use when I bought my 1D MK IV.  Eventually due to problems with my wrists, I bought a 1D MK III, it is far better overall than my 7D was, but the 7D did work very well with my 100mmL.
I'd certainly recommend a good used 7d.

Lenses / Re: Odd AF microadjustment behavior with a new lens
« on: February 03, 2013, 12:03:44 PM »
It shouldn't do that obviously, If it is still happening, do a camera reset, remove the battery for 5 minutes or so, and try again.  If it is still happening, since its a new lens, it is possibly related, and you might have to exchange it.  While lenses do not store AFMA, they do store the AF calibration settings done at the factory or service center, and there could be a firmware issue or communication issue.

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