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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 3rd Party ... Bodies??
« on: July 26, 2012, 10:16:34 PM »
So here's an idea I've been mulling over for a while...
There are already 3rd party manufacturers (SigRoKina etc), who make 3rd Party lenses with AF, they take a few Canon lenses and bodies apart, look at the electrical signals going back and forth, and then build that capability into their own lenses. It's worked for the last 30 years or so quite nicely.
If only that were true! 
Sigma EOS compatible lenses made before the Canon Rebel DSLR will not finction on a modern Canon DSLR.  They fixed the design and reworked some of them for the Digital Rebel, then when the Canon 10D came out, some of them broke yet again.  Their lenses made in the last 9-10 years still work ok. They have also had to redo some of their Sony compatible lenses that stopped working when Sony released a new model.  The other manufacturers have had issues as well, but not with millions of lenses like Sigma.
Tons of Quantaray lenses made by Sigma will not work on modern Canon DSLRs even though they were supposed to be EOS compatible.  I got caught with several Sigma lenses, only one could be upgraded, and they charged me $100 to make it work like it was supposed to.
Its still possible, likely even, that a tweak to Canons AF system will once again render all of Sigma's lenses non workable.
Developing a new camera is a huge cost.  Some think that they just bolt parts togather with little or no effort.  In actuality, its a huge effort, the software alone is super expensive to develop and maintain. A program like that can bankrupt a company, which is why Sigma bought Foevon.  Pentax is tetering as well, and may stop making P&S bodies.
Don't expect Sigma to come out with a FF mirrorless, the risk at this point in time is too high.

PowerShot Cameras / Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« on: July 26, 2012, 08:42:11 PM »
Prices are dropping fast!  I bought a new 16-35mmL for less than Canon's price for a refurbished lens.
I'd sit tight and look for bargains, they are popping up everywhere.  Even the t4i is being discounted.
"The Digital Picture" has a running list of deals on the lower right sidebar, so visit that site as well.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Does the T4i Overheat?
« on: July 25, 2012, 10:27:32 PM »
The T4i AF is not super fast, but it is far better than nothing.  It also works with the new STM lenses for faster and quiter AF as compared to a normal EF or EF-s lens.

I'd opt for the T4i and the 40mm STM pancake lens and / or  18-135mm STM lens.  This is the first Canon DSLR that will autofocus while doing video, and it is designed to work with the STM lenses which have relatively silent AF motors.
The T3i is not optomized with these lenses.  It won't autofocus while doing video, so spending money on a AF lens for video is a waste, no matter which.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Does the T4i Overheat?
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:35:53 PM »
If you are out in very hot weather, count on it overheating.  The heat disappation has been improved, and its better than many competiting models.

Canon General / Re: "Time for a Change at Canon?" -Barons
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:32:38 PM »
What I read is just as I imagined it.  A totally inside board of directors each congratualating and re-electing themselves and totally oblivious to the world around them and its changes.
They badly need some outside directors to push for change.  The continued lack of agressively priced and specified new products is going to put them in a hole that becomes increasingly difficult to pull out of.
Being on top today does not guarantee being on top tomorrow, particularly when other companies are catching up and even passing you.  One day soon, they will be wondering what hit them.

Canon non-EF Lenses (TS-E, FD, etc.) / Re: 600mm FD f4.5
« on: July 25, 2012, 02:21:38 PM »
Not having AF or IS makes the lens simpler, lighter, and much more reliable.
I tried handholding my EF 600mm f/4 (non IS), I could do it for less than a minute and only after removing the hood to shed weight out on the far end.  Since it is a fairly fast lens, cranking up shutter speed to 1/2000 in bright light was no issue. I think that lens was the heaviest regular production lens that Canon made.  A little heavier than its brother 400mm f/2.8 non is.
After that one occasion, I never tried again.

A lens plus TC will be slower to focus and have any flaws magnified by the TC.  The 70-300mm is going to be better than the 70-200 with TC.

Lenses / Re: Advice before buying used 15-85 EF-S
« on: July 25, 2012, 01:16:15 PM »
I believe you should just save that extra little $$$ and get the 17-55mm 2.8 IS. Its well worth it and wont disappoint. You lose little $$$ over depreciation with good glass.

Patience is a virtue, and Impatience is an expensive commodity.

Thank you for you advice guys.  I know that 17-55 is THE EF-S lens, but I prefer the range of 15-85. It also costs much less.

My main concern is that the USM motor (which I think is the most vulnerable part of the lens) of 1.5 year used lens, well, could stop working 1.5 years earlier than of a new one and will cost me at least (if not more) the same 165$ to fix it. Can anyone predict the average lifetime of it? How durable are these things?


The USM Motor is very reliable, but IS more delicate and less reliable.  In the USA, it does not include a hood.
Roger Cicila owns Lens Rentals.com and comments on reliability and quality of the lenses.  Rental lenses have a very tough life, and if they can't take rough handling, he mentions it.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS M - Colour Availability
« on: July 25, 2012, 12:56:42 PM »
I haven't seen any information on the launch of the other EOS M colours.  B&H only has black and I haven't been able to even find a concrete launch date for black.  I'd like to get a white one for my wife so if anyone has information about colour availability in North America, that would be great.
I read that the white body will be sold in the USA initially thru the Canon website.  It will only be in stores in Japan??
I have no idea as to when it will appear for pre-order in the store.

Lenses / Re: Patent and New Lens
« on: July 25, 2012, 12:49:29 PM »
Few patents make it to production.  there have been numerous patents released over the years that were for a 24-70mm f/2.8 lens.
Anyone expecting a patent to actually become a released product at some later time is going to be disappointed over and over ... and over.
In fact, many lenses are introduced before the patent is published.  This avoids tipping off the competition.  I believe thats it is only when production delays hold up a new lens that the patent arrives first.

My friend just bought the current one on craigslist... I keep teasing him that the new one is coming out and his will be obsolete... maybe i can get his even cheaper haha.  But, as we know canon lately, dont count on the new one being under 2k.
I think it will not be under  $3K.  I also think that Canon is or will be rethinking new product introductions.  If the tooling is complete, they will probably go ahead, but if its just in the final design phase, it will get delayed.  The recent drops in prices accross the photography industry are a sign of lagging sales, and the resultant cash flow issues.
Obviously, the 200-400mmL is going to come, and a host of small low cost STM non L lenses as well. Those will sell, even in tough times.

Lenses / Re: Refurbished Lenses from Canon
« on: July 25, 2012, 12:39:12 PM »
I've bought a 15-85mm, a 70-200mm f/2.8 II, a 5D MK II, and a 7D.  All looked and worked like new. 
However, you need to sign up for e-mail notification of their  occasional 15% off sales for lenses, and use the CLP program to get 20% off the bodies if you want a deal. ($1407 for a 5D MK II)
I ordered a 16-35mmL from New Egg for $1351 and free shipping thru one of their customer appreciation deals.
Thats less than the regular refurb price.
Prices on photo gear are dropping like a rock, so keep searching for deals.

Lenses / Re: Wide Canon L choice: 14L II 2.8 or 16-35 II 2.8
« on: July 25, 2012, 12:21:41 AM »
I just bought the 16-35II today.  So far I'm impressed with it, and lovin the 16mm wide end.
Mine shipped today, so it should be here by Friday.  I never warmed up to my 17-40mmL, so I am hoping I like this one.  Right now, I have a old Tokina 17mm f/3.5 Prime that I do like, but I have a use for the zoom.

Software & Accessories / Re: The latest EOS Utility WANTED!
« on: July 24, 2012, 09:15:51 PM »
When its updated, it will be available for all cameras.

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