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Canon General / Re: What's so bad about HDR?
« on: July 31, 2013, 07:40:35 AM »
My grandfather is selling his RV and needed some pictures taken, so I did a three shot bracket for each of the interior shots.  Looks natural to me.  Surely much more natural than you could ever light that space to be.

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Canon General / Re: Thrown in deep waters... throw me buoys pls..
« on: July 28, 2013, 01:41:21 PM »
Sanj, who are you kidding? You are a cinematographer. You can teach them stuff till the wildebeest come home! :)

hahahahhaha. BUT still photography has its own processes. Besides on a set I work with over 6 assistant and 15 lighting guys. Here I will be alone. What if they ask me a question I do not know the answer to? Eiks!

Admit you don't know, or that have an incomplete answer, but that you'll look into it and get back to them.  People that think they know everything and will give a false answer to maintain the facade, are the worst people to be teachers.

You had the humility to come here to ask for help, so I already know you're not that type of person.  And I wholeheartedly agree with everyone else when I say you produce magnificent work.  If you can impart even a tiny fraction of that on your students, they will have gotten their monies worth tenfold.

But that's the difficult part, isn't it?  Giving them the tools (rules/fundamentals) is easy, helping them understand and find their own vision is quite difficult.

I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job!  Don't forget to take some pictures for yourself and have some fun :)

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 24, 2013, 02:08:02 PM »
what do you mean JRISTA that smaller pixels will be noisier?

The snr on an individual pixel will get worse as it's scaled down, the snr of the sensor as a whole will (should) improve though.

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waiting for an 85 actually. I have the 35 and the EF 135L so all I need is a better than 85 1.8 and faster focusing than 85 1.2 for my atheist trinity

Lol, LOVE IT, I'm so stealing that term.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 23, 2013, 10:00:40 PM »
The engineering of production equipment, and product testing equipment most often is a larger task that the original product development. Leading edge semi products are the worst, especially considering "leading Edge" is a fleeting concept. Add site development, personnel training, and local "government influence" two years to create a high tech fab facility is the best you could expect. (Mind you, these facilities are now constructed in what were/are 3rd world countries).

Japanese companies are blame/credit centric. Before the start of any project, a chain of blame (in the case of project failure) and credit (in case all works out well) has to be established. This is very time consuming.

You're assuming they'd be standing up a new fab to create this chip, or at least a new process, both would almost certainly be incorrect.

They almost certainly will be using their existing fab, and existing 500nm process.

Granted, this still isn't something you can stand up in an afternoon, but there's NO WAY it would take years.

flanderscamera has said his opinion is based on professional experience in manufacturing.
What are your counter-opinions based on?

Sure, they could retro-fit an old fab with a newer process, but this is rarely done (the value of keeping the old fab running and the cost building a new one is higher than stopping the fab and retrofitting costs).

flanderscamera: I would have thought that Canon would put a new fab inside Japan, but I'm not exactly familiar with their fabs. Sounds to me you are suggesting to put a fab in countries like Indonesia, Philippines, or Vietnam.

They've been using the same process in the same fabs for a decade for their DSLR sensors. Even at 75MP, 500nm is plenty fine enough for any feature, unless they move amps & ADCs on die (which would be awesome btw), or did fancy stuff like on die binning, in either of those cases I'm not even remotely qualified to make a statement of whether 500nm would be sufficient.  So my position is based on historical precedence, and simple logic.  If flanderscamera has evidence to the contrary I'm sure everyone would love to hear it, myself included.

Migrating to a new process, or even just to a larger wafer size in the same process, is incredibly expensive.  And a whole new fab with modern tooling is in the neighborhood of $1-2bn.  I would love to hear they are making that investment, and would love to be proven wrong.  And if that is the case, then flanderscamera's timeline would be just about right.  I just haven't seen anything to support that, so I'm skeptical.

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Yes I too was expecting about 2.2
DXOMark said it's 1.8, although that is pretty unusual

Oh, wow... that is quite unusual.  If correct, bravo Sigma, bravo.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 23, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »
The engineering of production equipment, and product testing equipment most often is a larger task that the original product development. Leading edge semi products are the worst, especially considering "leading Edge" is a fleeting concept. Add site development, personnel training, and local "government influence" two years to create a high tech fab facility is the best you could expect. (Mind you, these facilities are now constructed in what were/are 3rd world countries).

Japanese companies are blame/credit centric. Before the start of any project, a chain of blame (in the case of project failure) and credit (in case all works out well) has to be established. This is very time consuming.

You're assuming they'd be standing up a new fab to create this chip, or at least a new process, both would almost certainly be incorrect.

They almost certainly will be using their existing fab, and existing 500nm process.

Granted, this still isn't something you can stand up in an afternoon, but there's NO WAY it would take years.

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I may sell my Canon 17-55/2.8 to get this lens.  I'm very interested.  T-stop of 1.8.  They weren't fibbing....

The F-stop is 1.8, the T-stop will probably be in the 2-2.1 neighborhood, possibly 2.2 with that many elements.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:56:35 AM »
I do not think your anti-Nikon arguments are solidly conclusive, they're more like your personal opinion.
Which you're entitled to express. ;)
Until about 2 years ago, I would have been inclined to strongly agree with your opinion.
What a difference a gear (change) or 2 makes.

Actually, thank you for calling me out on that.  I'm usually good about adding the requisite "for me", "for my needs", etc. And you are 100% correct.

Ergonomics are highly subjective, barring just outright design disasters.  And I'll be the first to admit my firsthand knowledge is limited and somewhat dated (~5 years or so), and these days is mostly relegated to secondhand reports.  There surely are people that just love Nikon ergonomics, and those that hate Canon ergonomics.  I believe though, based purely on anecdotal evidence mind you, that the opposite is true quite a bit more often.  But like I said, subjective.

UI I believe though, is more inclined to being objective.  Still I'm sure there are people that prefer it, or are just plain used to the random cluster it has evolved to become.  But overall it's much easier to point to something in the UI design and say it's bad, and actually support that argument with facts and logic.

Maybe the 12-24 is not without it's flaws; however, seeing as how there is really no direct comparison to be had, I tend to give it the benefit of the doubt.  Plus being without peer, it is by default the best.  It's worth the effort for a non-trivial number of Canon shooters to convert them, so it can't be that flawed.

The 70-200/4VR I really haven't heard much about.  It is good that they finally filled that glaring hole in their lens lineup though.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:27:01 PM »
Good sensors yes, and yet they consistently sell less than Canon...

If sales figure is a mark of technical prowess then a Civics and Corollas are the best cars in the world.

If a Ferrari cost you the same as a Civic, which would you rather buy?

An 11 DR sensor can be a Ferrari. In what world are you residing?

You're missing my point. If cameras equipped with Sony sensors were Ferraris, people would not pay even higher prices for Canon 11 DR Civics.

You have no point. Masses care about instagram and iphone pictures. None of these dslrs are status items either. A lot of those who care about IQ and print big are not too happy about 11 DR (barring cognitive dissonance).

If DR is the only thing you care about, then why are you here? Go get something with a Sony sensor and take some pictures.

I bought into Canon initially, and continue to do so, because they have the strongest system FOR ME.  I'd like more DR, who wouldn't?  But that's far from the most important thing to me. YMMV.

Buy whatever suits YOUR needs, but dumping on other peoples choices and opinions, is just a waste of everyone's time.  If you have something constructive to say, even if it's negative, by all means do so.  All we've seen so far from you in this thread however, is drivel.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:09:22 PM »
surt sa räven om rönnbären, usch sa Casper när han fick syn på en naken häst.

Visst vore det väl bra om Canon fick ordning på läsbruset och bandning i sina sensorer
Google Translate renders this as:
acidic said the fox about rowan berries, yikes said Casper when he caught sight of a naked horse.
Would not it be gratifying if Canon had to order at läsbruset and strapping in their sensors


Being as other threads have degenerated into things like squirrels with anti-gravity, this doesn't surprise me :)

I'll pass on whatever a naked horse is. On the flip side, I'll definitely take an anti-grav squirrel! :D

Oh dear, well that sure escalated quickly.

:P

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Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 22, 2013, 04:04:02 PM »
Shouldn't Canon be creating something greater than 23 megapixels before jumping with the big boys?

Yeah, because they didn't already create (your word) a 120 MP APS-H sensor...   ::)

BTW, who are the 'big boys'?  There's only one for FF...and it's not Nikon.

It was great using the magical 120 MP APS-H sensor! What not to like, whether the awesomeness of 120 MP or the un-dead nature of the APS-H. Talk about relevancy!

Oh, and the big boys are all those higher mpx, high DR, superior sensors found in all modern DSLRs except for Canon.

Good sensors yes, and yet they consistently sell less than Canon...

If Nikon could actually build a decent body, with decent ergonomics and UI to put that sensor in, they could become a threat to Canon's market position.  Although they'd need to work on their lenses too, the only shining point in that lineup is the 14-24/2.8, admittedly great, but beyond that they don't have anything notable.

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- dual and FAST SD cards (get rid of this expensive stupid and outdated CF junk)

Allow me to politely disagree. If a 5D4 would come with SD card slots only, I would avoid it for that single reason, regardless of anything else.


Sorry for a lame "me too" post...  But yeah, me too.

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF135mm f/2L USM
« on: July 12, 2013, 02:37:37 AM »
Most of my work is too naughty for this forum, but I really wanted to contribute to the 135mm thread.  I really love this lens.

Here is a test shot from a recent photoshoot, taken while I was dialing in the exposure.  It was processed in Lightroom with the default settings, except for max sharpening on export.

info: 5D3, 1/1600 sec, ISO 100, F 2.2

And here is a crop from the center.  I'd show a corner crop, but I always let the corners blur.  I've come to realize that corner sharpness is irrelevant to the type of shooting I do.


I looked around your site, I like your work, too bad you can't share more of it here.

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Lighting / Re: Yongnuo YN-568EX II TT
« on: July 12, 2013, 02:21:14 AM »
If it had the connector for the battery pack like the 565EX does, I'd get them.  It helps a ton.

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