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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 09:35:33 PM »
Canon has a problem. I know you do not believe that, but they do. It's a perceptual problem, and it could seriously affect their revenues and ability to fund the necessary R&D in the years to come. Such things have happened before, and often companies, even if they were on the top of the world, NEVER recover (Kodak?) So...seriously...touch screens and touch UIs?

Canon has a perceptual problem?  That depends on who is doing the perceiving.  If you're referring to CR Forums and similar places, perhaps.  Perceived 'poor sensor IQ' is an Internet forum problem Canon has had for years.  Hasn't affected their market share, though.

As dtaylor stated, the analogy to Kodak is a red herring. 

Seriously, touch screens and touch UIs.  Entry level cameras have them.  Canon wants people to upgrade, and people don't like to give up features to which they're accustomed.  Omitting basic features which a majority of their customer base expects to be included (a category into which touch screens fall, but low ISO DR does not) would certainly 'seriously affect their revenues and ability to fund the necessary R&D in the years to come'.

Neuro, I admire your patience and persistence.

Clearly, this is one of those things that, for some people, goes beyond logic and rationality.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 11:47:24 AM »
The original [CR2] post about no wifi was updated to read: "We’ve been told that the omission of the wifi in the 7D replacement is due to how the body is designed. The durable full metal body would make wifi transmission unreliable at best."  To me, that renders the source questionable, as there are a variety of simple engineering solutions to that problem which Canon could have implemented. 

I think the touch screen will eventually make it's way to pro orientated camera as a compliment to the physical controls- unlike pop up flash. If it is not included in the 7DII there will be a valid reason for its omission I'm sure.

If this rumor is true (and that's a big "if") then I am inclined to think that the omission of both wifi and touch screen are due to engineering limitations not marketing decisions. There are good, solid reasons why both should be included in a flagship APS-C camera.

As someone else stated, not having a touch screen will be a tremendous handicap for video. I can't believe Canon would omit this feature lightly. In fact, if you are not going to have a touchscreen, I'm not even sure why you would implement dual-pixel technology.

Similarly, I can't see Canon giving up wi-fi if they could avoid it. Again, the lack of the feature will make the camera less attractive for a certain buying segment and I don't think they would do that without some solid engineering reason not to.

I don't know what to make of this, except that I think it does open up the possibility that this body will really be much closer to a 1DX in build quality than to a 5DIII.

No touchscreen and no wi-fi because the body is bombproof?

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Lenses / Re: Help deciding on going full frame
« on: August 16, 2014, 11:28:29 AM »
My two cents:

The cheapest upgrade would be the 15-85 EF-S. It's image quality and focal range are comparable to the 24-105 L.

As Mt. Spokane said, the differences between full frame and a crop body in good light are not that significant.

However, if you really have the full frame itch and it's not going away until it's scratched, then you might as well cut your losses and make the change sooner, rather than later.

A lot of people are counting on the new 7DII to be some breakthrough technology in sensors. I'm not so sure, but it's probably worth waiting three weeks or so to see.

In the U.S. a 6D is incredibly inexpensive right now. With a 24-105 kit lens they've been as low as $2,000 from unauthorized dealers and about $2,200 from an authorized dealer if you hit it at the right time. I don't know about the situation in Australia.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 24-105. It is an "L" lens and deserves that designation.

Either a 24-105 and 70-300 L kit on full frame or a 15-85 and 70-300 L on crop will cover more than 90 percent of shooting situations. When traveling, those are really the only lenses you'll need to pack. The 3mm difference between 15 and 18mm at the wide end is significant. At some point, regardless of which kit you choose, you can supplement it with a wider zoom, but you will need the wider zoom only occasionally.

Personally, I would never even consider a 24-70 as the range is just too short for my taste and with that narrow of a range, I'd rather use primes.

If the 7DII turns out to have some game-changing, physics-defying sensor in it, then all bets are off. Otherwise, I really don't expect for there to be an upgrade of the 5DIII for quite some time, while the most likely upgrade to the 6D would be 70D/7D style autofocus.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 11:58:54 PM »
Who in the world, ESPECIALLY pros, want to pull the camera away from their face so they can fiddle with a clunky touch screen?

Well, how about pros (or amateurs) who shoot with the 600 EX RT? Or Pros or amateurs who want to change tracking sensitivity or accelerate/decelerate tracking? There are dozens of functions that cannot be adjusted with a camera glued to your face that would be much easier and quicker to accomplish with the swipe of a finger rather than having to work through buttons and joysticks.

People need to open their minds a bit and quit being such Luddites about technology (especially ironic on a forum filled with gearheads). No one has ever suggested that a touch screen would replace the buttons and joysticks, but it is proven technology that would add significant functionality and convenience to enthusiast and pro-level cameras.

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Canon General / Re: Gear Realities
« on: August 15, 2014, 10:38:25 PM »
Google photos of your favorite sport, from the 1950. You'll be amazed at how good they are.

1952 World Series
http://goldinauctions.com/ItemImages/000009/9180a_lg.jpeg

i was at a minor league baseball game a few weeks back and they had photos of people who made it to the majors... from today and yesteryear... and OMG... the images from yesteryear were so awful.  They were crazy grainy and looked out of focus... I suppose they were action shots... but I manage to get action shots of baseball in focus even when manually focusing...

I don't disagree with your thesis... but I was surprised because I expected yesteryear to be better...

And for what it is worth... I'm not that impressed with the world series photo...

Personally, I've always thought this was one of the all-time greatest sports photos (says a lot more than any razor sharp action shot ever could in my opinion)
http://www.milliondollarbackfield.com/images/tittle16x201.jpg

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 10:09:28 PM »
TBH, as far as the 7D is concerned, it's supposed to be Canon's best video product.

This statement surprises me. Ignoring the Canon Cinema DSLRs, I always thought the 5D was supposed to be Canon's top video DSLR. When the 5DII came out it pretty much turned the video world on its head. I've seen a lot of professional videos shot with 5D's, not so many with 7D's. I'm not a video person, but even so, I'd like to know what is the basis for expecting the 7D to be Canon's best video product.
No touch-screen? It's sort of nice. But it's really a gee-whiz feature. For people who like using point and shoots. I can change settings much faster and easier without it. And in sports, that's much more critical.

An articulating screen..  Now THAT could be useful in many ways...

Funny, I have just the opposite perspective. I doubt I would ever use a tilt screen, but I would love a touch screen that allows me to dig through the menu more quickly and intuitively. I wouldn't use it for simple shooting, but for special situations (changing focus tracking or setting RT flash settings, for example) I think I'd find having a touch screen very handy.
Oh, and yes, I think that people have gotten the message that full frame has, other things being equal, more potential for highest image quality. I am not arguing that point.

However, there are plenty of people who will buy a well-rounded action APS-C camera with excellent, but not "medium format killer", image quality.  Please review the concept of a tool designed for a specific task. Action shooters want a specialized camera.. .

Exactly. A 7D II won't touch a 6D or 5D III for landscapes or as a wedding/event camera, but it can be a viable alternative to a 1D series camera for the wildlife/action/sport shooter--especially on a budget.  $2000-2500 isn't inexpensive--but it's a good deal less than 5 or 6 grand!!!

Agreed. I watched Canon release the 5DIII targeted to a very specific audience (wedding/event photographers) while Nikon released its D800 without (in my opinion) adequately reviewing the market. Once the pent-up demand was satisfied, Nikon didn't have anywhere else to go. But, the 5DIII became a "must have" for wedding and event photographers and was still a very desirable camera for all-around users.  The sales figures indicate that their strategy worked.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I see the same thing happening with the 7DII. Meet the needs of wildlife/action/sports shooters while offering a very attractive camera for higher-end enthusiasts. I still say, Canon wants us all to buy two bodies and I expect the 5DIII and the 7DII will be a nice combination.

(And one more reason why I really don't expect to see a 5DIV for at least another year.)

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Absolutely no surprise to me at all. And, I don't think it is correct to assume that this is only photographers who work for others.

I've done the math myself and concluded it would be very hard to make a go of it. Actually, I'd love to hear what some of the people on this site who do this full time make.

When I've done "back of the envelope" calculations it seems pretty tough. For example: wedding photographer – book 30 weddings a year at $2,500 each, that's $75,000 gross and I think it would be hard to get 30 bookings in a year (especially here in the Midwest). Plus, that's only wedding photographers, which is about the only remaining market today. That's a gross figure, and doesn't include any overhead (advertising, materials, equipment, assistants, etc. etc.)

Maybe some of the pro photographers can enlighten us.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 05:53:51 PM »
haven't read the whole topic, just few first pages, but are you people really believing this rumour? its a rumour, yet you are treating it as a fact.

"We’re getting little bits of information, and what we’re getting is going to be true."
I also believe in Santa Claus :)

Yeah, well--who doesn't?!   8)

But I concur, that bit about "and what we're getting is going to be true" tends to make this rumour likely to pan out.  There's no CR#, which is odd, but it sounds like what they've given us has been verified by a trusted source.

More to the point, it gels with previous rumours...

...Nonetheless, colour me impressed.  All the features on my own wish list (superb AF and burst rate in a well built body) are being met, if these specs are accurate--and I suspect they are...I don't expect to be disappointed.  Quite the opposite--I think this camera is going to ROCK!!!! :)

I'm guessing that for a large segment the deal maker/breaker is going to be the sensor. And, we really don't have anything close to a reliable rumor on that yet.

Instead, there are some crazy-high expectations floating around and there is a segment of the internet population that is expecting a sensor that defies physics. When that doesn't materialize there will be much whining and gnashing of teeth.

I personally would be very surprised if some major breakthrough in sensor technology is incorporated in the 7DII. In part, because I'm not sure that such a breakthrough technology is even possible. I'm expecting a 24mp sensor with some incremental improvements that place it a little higher on the scale to the 70D sensor. But, I'm not expecting a miracle.

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Post Processing / Re: Photoshop eye retouching
« on: August 15, 2014, 05:08:17 PM »
Not sure what high-pass technique you use, but mine is to: wait until I've done everything else I want to the photo. Make a copy of the final merged layer. Select high-pass filter for that layer (usually set somewhere between 2-5 pixels) and use the "hard light" blending mode.

I'll then add an all-black layer mask and then use the brush tool to reveal only the eyes, hair and sometimes lips and teeth. If it looks too intense, I'll reduce the opacity of the high pass layer until it looks natural but sharp. I've found the high-pass filter can often save a photo where a slight error in focusing has left the eyes less than perfectly sharp.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 11:58:40 AM »
First, I think the speculation placing the cost of the 7DII into 5DIII territory is highly unlikely. If that were to be the case, the 7DII would be targeted to a much different (and much smaller) market than than the original 7D.

Generally, though, the specs confirm what I was expecting: a top of the line APS-C camera that sets industry standards, coupled with features that are targeted to very specific users. Just as the 5DIII was clearly targeted to wedding and event photographers with its low-light capabilities, Canon seems to be targeting the 7DII to sports and wildlife photographers.

That doesn't mean it won't be a great all-around camera (just as the 5DIII is), it just means that Canon seems to like to focus on a particular buyer base in order to assure that their upper end cameras have a clear market. If done right, this could be a must-have for sports and wildlife photographers. (Which, while not nearly as large of a professional base as wedding photographers, does have a large contingent of amateur users with high disposable income.)

I tend to agree with Neuro that the "1D build quality" may not mean what some people think it does. It might exceed the 5DIII, but I just don't think there is enough of a market for a $3,000 APS-C camera to justify the kind of bombproof construction the 1D series is noted for. (Unless of course, I'm seriously overestimating the cost of producing 1DX build quality – perhaps it's not as much of a cost factor as I think, given modern production technology.)

The lack of touch screen (if true) tells me that this is not a video-oriented camera. Perhaps Canon's market research shows that videographers don't buy 7Ds. Personally, I'm a bit disappointed because a good touch screen system would certainly be preferable when trying to navigate Canon's convoluted and increasingly complex menu systems. I can only imagine that, if true, it was because they did not feel comfortable with the durability of the touch screen system.

Personally, I'm not sure why you would use dual-pixel technology without a touch-screen, but then I've never been that hopped up on dual-pixels anyway.

Regardless. This will be an interesting release and I will enjoy the build-up over the coming weeks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Medium Format Announcement a \
« on: August 12, 2014, 11:03:04 PM »
I've always struggled to see why talk of "their brand" introducing a medium format system gets certain users (thankfully,  not so many on this particular forum) so excited...any MF system would be more or less completely incompatible with any manufacturer's current 35mm systems,  so who cares about brand?

Yes. Often the excitement is accompanied by unrealistic expectations about pricing or features that would be offered by "their brand." There are those who believe that if "their brand" were to offer a medium format camera that the mere presence of such a camera would instantly revive a market that is dying. Some even imagine that "their brand" will be able to overcome the laws of physics by, for example, offering a larger format that would be magically compatible with existing lenses.

Interestingly, many of these same people seem to have a bit of a love-hate relationship with "their brand" always complaining that it is not living up to its potential and accusing the company of being too worried about making a profit (horrors!).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Medium Format Announcement a \
« on: August 12, 2014, 03:15:17 PM »
I wonder if all this Medium Format noise is a diversionary tactic (assuming Canon is feeding some of it, which I am not sure they are.)

Possibility A: Feed into the rumors of a Medium Format offering and let your competitors start expending resources on something you have no intention of developing.

Possibility B: Feed into the rumors of a Medium Format offering and scare your competitors off because they know you have the cash and market positioning to dominate if you were to decide to proceed.

Seems like in either case, feeding the rumors could be a win for Canon.

Of course, I happen to think that "longshot" seriously overstates the likelihood. "When pigs fly" might be more accurate.

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Canon General / Re: Another Canon Medium Format Mention
« on: August 11, 2014, 05:52:10 PM »
Just don't believe it. If they are looking at MF now they're about twenty five years too late.

My thoughts exactly.

Developing a medium format camera today is way more complicated than it was in the film days and the market is much smaller and shrinking all the time. If Canon and Nikon were uninterested in medium format when it was actually a viable market, why would they invest in it now?

On another thread, I posted a reference to an estimate from Leica that the worldwide market for medium format is only 6,000 units annually. Hasselblad has a grand total of 180 employees according to their own website, not exactly a huge operation.

There are other markets that are far more promising.

To paraphrase an ancient proverb: “The best time to develop a MF camera was 25 years ago. The second best time is now.”

Yes, but while 1870 might have been the best time to develop a new buggy whip and by this reasoning 2014 is the second best time to develop a new buggy whip, that still doesn't make it a good time for buggy whips.

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Canon General / Re: Another Canon Medium Format Mention
« on: August 11, 2014, 01:30:01 PM »
Just don't believe it. If they are looking at MF now they're about twenty five years too late.

My thoughts exactly.

Developing a medium format camera today is way more complicated than it was in the film days and the market is much smaller and shrinking all the time. If Canon and Nikon were uninterested in medium format when it was actually a viable market, why would they invest in it now?

On another thread, I posted a reference to an estimate from Leica that the worldwide market for medium format is only 6,000 units annually. Hasselblad has a grand total of 180 employees according to their own website, not exactly a huge operation.

There are other markets that are far more promising.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit of EOS 7D Replacement Info [CR2]
« on: August 11, 2014, 11:04:20 AM »
Can someone explain something about wifi?

I have read that build quality (metal body?) precludes incorporating wifi. Yet, the wifi card manufacturers say their product works with the 5DIII in its SD slot. If that's the case, then why would camera manufacturers be unable to design a camera body that doesn't have the ability to use wifi. It seems they should be able to simply shift the wifi portion to another part of the body.

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