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Canon General / Re: TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
« on: November 25, 2013, 10:43:02 AM »
Fun thread.

Agree pretty much except for two:
1.  There will always be a point and shoot market.  The 2/3rd sensor P&S may be dead, but P&S with larger sensors will exist.  They are simply mirrorless cameras without interchangeable lenses.
2.  Nikon will be dead, severely diminished, or acquired by someone like Sony but not on par with Canon.  Recent news of them downgrading their forecast is a harbinger.  They are groping around for a product that will continuously sell.  Much more so than Canon.  Sigma's lenses will hurt Nikon more than Canon. 

New thoughts:
1.  3D video cameras bread new life into the camcorder market and sufficiently differentiate video from still photography that dSLRs exist that are primarily devoted to still photography
2.  Someone such as fugi/Olympus/etc will rise to take Nikon's place as the #2 brand (in terms of sales) compared to Canon
3.  Sony will have left the market in search of greener pastures.
4.  "Lytro" cameras and sensors will be available but more of a niche.
5.  Sensor tech--Bayer filters/CMOS sensors will be out.  ISO performance will have necessitated all light hitting the sensor.  Not sure what will have replaced it.


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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 21, 2013, 09:07:03 AM »
I upgraded from the 7D to the 5DIII last February.  I had spent most of the previous 9 months considering the upgrade to FF and comparing the D800 to the 5DIII.  A switch over to Nikon wouldn't have been that big a deal as I was selling all my EFS glass.  I read every article I could find, and I watched more videos than I care to remember. 

At the end of the day, I concluded that the 5DIII was a better camera for my needs.  I have a general understanding of the pros and cons of each system and am very happy with my choice.

I've always assumed other people made similar evaluations.  But a couple of threads like this are beginning to make me think otherwise.....

Back to the topic of the thread, a potential new EOS-1 body, and potentially Canon's first foray into the "high Megapixel bodies"  I wonder how high?  I view high megapixel bodies as a pretty limited niche.  Theoretically, it is great, but in practice, I think the market will be more of a niche.  Landscape photographers, those shooting billboards, some select studio work and enthusiast that just have to have it.   ;D  But if Canon is going to do it, I bet they go pretty high.  I am going to guess more MP than the D800...Right now I'd guess 48 MP.  That should sufficiently cement Canon as a "high megapixel" leader and provide room for a 1Dx II to come out in 2015 at ~24 MP.  If true, looks like the 1D line is going to be split again.

Regarding the rumor of lenses with the release...those are something I might actually buy (I won't be buying the high megapixel body).  As landscape and billboard type studio work could go hand in hand with a high MP body, I could see the long awaited 12-24 f/2.8 and 35 f/1.4 II.  Lenses like that with superb optics would well compliment a high MP body.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:37:31 AM »
Like I said before. Canon's "Answer" to the Nikon D800 (and future D900, and the Sony A7R) will come as a big bulky elephant sized 1D-body, with a price tag that most people can't touch.

Ok, then...but what are Nikon and Sony's "Answers" to the 5DIII, which has outsold the D800 and will vastly outsell the a7R?   ::)

Why do people think Canon needs to play Nikon's game?  The D800 was Nikon's attempt to play the game by Canon's rules (we'll see your 8-9 MP increase, and raise you by another 14 MP), and Nikon lost.
When someone attacks a Canon body, you always resort to raw sales. That'S not very interesting.

Ugh...what isn't interesting is debating two excellent camera bodies......


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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Zeiss Otus Initial Impressions
« on: November 19, 2013, 09:42:54 PM »
These optics, 24 mm f1.4...I'd think about it.

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Software & Accessories / Re: 5D III - SD card that will write fast?
« on: November 18, 2013, 11:52:16 AM »
Very interesting.  I'll need to reformat my SD card with the "Low" process from here on out.  I've run into this and the SD card does make everything very slow.  While not ideal, I've taken to saving RAW to the CF card and JPG to the SD card.  That has helped, of course, because of the smaller file size of the JPG.  I've actually grown to like this system as I can now take the SD card out and share it with friends/family if they want to down load some of my shots before I take the time to process them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 13, 2013, 02:37:04 PM »
It is funny how people are so concerned with image quality... I get it... at least, I used to.  But I used the Canon 40D then 7D for wedding photography for over six years.  In that time, I was nominated and voted into the top 4 wedding photographers in a large market city twice.  I normally only used primes to compensate for the lack of high ISO performance and depth of field from the crop bodies (they are sharper anyhow).  For these reasons, I have far less $$$$ wrapped up in equipment than any of my colleagues.  There will always be something newer and better, but the image quality achievable from the 7D mark I is awesome, even on large prints (e.g. 36x48).  Anything Canon releases moving forward will only be icing on the cake!!!

I agree with the others, and love the perspective.  It is very important to note that what we have is good enough.  Skill/time/effort are usually the limiting factors, not the camera.  Most pro photographers I know aren't worried about upgrades.  Matter of fact, most that I know are shooting with 1-3 generation old equipment.  The one I know the best has something like 8xD300s and 2xD3s bodies as their arsenal and typically shoot events with a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 @ f/5.6.  I was speaking with a pro videographer and they manual focus everything...couldn't care less about dual pixel technology.  When the canon 24-70 II came out I read an article and saw a video about several several pretty famous pros that were planning on keeping their 24-70 I.  They saw no need to upgrade.

It is interesting, but I often don't think upgrades are about pros. 

But getting back to perspective, I don't think we can forget, people can have different interests in the same subject.  Using cars as the analogy, for some people they just get them from point A to point B, others love the technology, some like the ride comfort, some the speed, some cornering, others--fuel economy or what they can haul.  Lots of different interests....and perspectives.  Yet, they keep coming out with new car models when, really, we've had all that we "need" for decades.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 13, 2013, 12:12:50 PM »
Actually, the 6D and 7D2 should be a pretty excellent combo! :)

They are...it is called the 5DIII  :o :P ;D

For photographers who want a cost effective crop camera there is the 70D. I am wishing for a 'mini 1dx'. Will be perfect second camera along with my 1dx for 'good light' wildlife work. And I hope the 7d2 has better IQ than version I starting from ISO 100 itself to 1600. Hope......
Yep, this is the basis for my earlier comment that I am worried that $2k isn't a high enough price to make the 7DII "professional level"....really, I was thinking "mini-1DX."

Considering it would be $900 more than the 70D, there is plenty of room/need for differentiation.  But, "mini-1DX" I'd expect to be on par with the 5DIII in price.  As the quick example, if the 7DII was given 63 pt AF, 10 fps, improvments in sensor technology gave us ~1-2 stops better high ISO noise performance, AND there was improved low ISO noise performance at $2k price point....who would buy the 6D, 5DIII or 1DX? 

Perhaps Canon does go this route, kill the sales of their current FF lineup and release the fabled high MP FF body (3D? 1DXs?) so they'd get sales from the 7DII and 3D/1DXs for 2014 and then refresh the 6D/5D/1D lineup in 2015 with the improved sensor tech.

Maybe....really, that would be great and make everyone very happy....but I am expecting a more modest upgrade to the 7DII at the $2k price point.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 12, 2013, 05:11:45 PM »
I'll go a different angle on this, price seems low for true "pro" level. So I expect something, besides APS-C to be separating the 7DII from 5DIII/1DX. Also, if true Pro level, canon needs to upgrade a general purpose zoom.  I say that as a former owner of the 15-85, which was a great lens. But they need a EFs general purpose zoom with weather sealing and better build quality.

That said, I'll consider buying the 7DII, depending on the specs and actual performance.

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 11, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »
Hmmm.....I'd say the lenses a lot of us want:

EF-M 15 mm f/2.8 pancake
EF-M 50 mm f/2 IS pancake
EF-M 55-200 f/4-5.6

14-24 f/2.8 L
35 f/1.4 L IS
135 f/1.8 L IS
400 f/5.6 L IS
100-400 L II

50-150 mm f/2.8 L (ok, that may just be me)

What we are likely to get:

Something like the:
USA announcement of the "new" EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM

EF-S 10-20 f/3.5-5.6 IS

50 f/2 IS
85 f/2 IS

35 f/1.4 L II
135 f/2 L II
TS-E 45 f/2.8 L
TS-E 90 f/2.8 L

Unfortunate, but probably not a single lens I would actually buy.  But I can see each of those having their place.

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Lenses / Re: The 24-105 and/or the 24-70 II ...
« on: November 09, 2013, 06:21:39 AM »
I am just boarding the same boat.  I just bought the 24-70 II and own a copy of the 24-105 that I think is good.  If the 24-105 used price was back around $800, I would probably sell my copy if I am happy with the 24-70 II after a few months.  However, with the used price being about 65% of that (~$500-$550), I am considering holding onto the 24-105.  I can think of a couple potential uses (as long as the 24-70 II checks out and is as impressive as described/reviewed) for the 24-105, including as a single event lens (may want the reach), and travel/times when I may not want a $2,300 lens with me.

That said, my preference would be to sell it, if the used price comes back up.  I have a problem seeing it go lower than $500-$550, so I figure I hold onto it, try to use it and wait for the price to come back up.

Of course, if I have to sell it to fund another lens...that could change the dynamic here.  ;D

EDIT---what RC said....

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 II slight clicking sound when zooming
« on: November 08, 2013, 10:25:33 AM »
Received my third one from Adorama just now.  062 code.  I moved the zoom, I heard the click once...then I moved the zoom about 5 more times, I never heard it again.  I'll take it home this weekend and run it through its paces.  But hopefully this is a winner.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Major IQ advantage of FF?
« on: November 07, 2013, 06:43:25 AM »
The "major" IQ advantage of FF is in high ISO noise.  There is an improvement of ~2 stops.  Which is to say, you get similar levels of noise at ISO 6400 on a current generation FF sensor as ISO 1600 on a current generation crop sensor. 

This past year I went from a 7D to a 5DIII.  I happily shot for years with the 7D.  It is a great camera.  I took many pictures that I proudly posted on the web and enlarged to 16x20 in prints.  People still come into my office and stop and stare at some of the pictures before they talk with me.  Crop sensors are very capable.

I upgraded for a couple of reasons.  First, the higher ISO performance.  I didn't want to use a flash as often as I was.  But I have also seen improvements, IMO, in color rendition, fine detail, highlight performance, and out-of focus blur (bokeh) using the same or similar lenses.  Regarding detail, I sometimes get shots that are so sharp, I could print them at 100% and they'd look good.  That was almost never true on the 7D.

So, P&S camera sensors are better than camera phones, crop sensors are much better than P&S cameras (2/3 sensors), FF is better than cropped sensors, and medium format gives even better images than FF.  So, phone>P&S>APS-C>FF>MF. 

You just need to pick where in that range your budget allows and you want to be...

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EOS Bodies / Re: How can I choose between 1DX and 5D MARK III?
« on: November 06, 2013, 09:11:37 PM »
I've always liked the reviews over at The-Digital-Picture.com. Toward the end, they list the advantages the 1DX has over the 5DIII and vice versa:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-1D-X-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

Personally, I bought the 5DIII.  It's great.  You are debating two great cameras.  There are times when I see something about the 1DX that makes me want it.  Heck, there are times when I want 36 MP of the D800.  But the 5DIII is absolutely a great camera and I shoot everything from portraits to BIF with it.

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I imagine a camera such as you describe will be available someday.  In fact, I suspect it will be named the Canon 1DCIII or 1DCIV. 

But it will be part of the market and not the entire market.  Still cameras will be in that market as well.  My guess is that there are some extreme high MP bodies, but for most people, they max out at 28-30 MP.  Then, they get less expensive.

Think about calculators.  They used to be specialty high end devices.  But they couldn't really be made better, but were still very useful.  So they got cheaper.  Sadly, both in price and quality.  Or computers.  The first computer my family bought in ~1988 was $4,000.  Now, you get a vastly more capable unit for less than $500.

I don't expect the 1D line to ever be that inexpensive, but I can see it coming down from where it is now.  I hope we find a happy medium between price and quality.

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...why do I get the feeling that camera companies are groping in the dark looking for anything that might sell....

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