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PowerShot / Re: Review: G1 X MK2 by DPReview
« on: August 31, 2014, 09:35:03 AM »
Canon should have given the G1X II a newer sensor.

that the sensor performance is reported to be the same or slightly worse than the G1X sensor is a bit disappointing of course.

http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Canon/PowerShot-G1X

the G1X II sensor is bigger than the sony RX100 sensor, yet shows worse results.

that can´t be explained with an old manufacturing process either.
as some have reported the powershot sensors are produced on a smaller litho process than the DSLR sensors.

i have yet to test the G1X II but from the specs and reports the sony A6000 looks more tempting... for less money too.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Announces Photokina Details
« on: August 28, 2014, 05:32:44 PM »
More like the level of details revealed reflects the same level of excitement to expect? LOL

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PowerShot / Re: New Large Sensor PowerShot Rumor [CR2]
« on: August 26, 2014, 02:09:14 PM »
Very true, another G1X II scenario again.

I think (but I am not sure...going from memory here) that the S95 is CCD and the S100 on up are CMOS.

I think that's true.  Canon is moving to CMOS on all their higher end point and shoots. 
Here's the problem:  It will probably have a Canon-made sensor.  Sony's 1" sensor already outperforms the much larger sensor in the G1X ii.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 29, 2014, 01:54:15 PM »
You are thinking they will just go with a faster lens on the G17.

It sure would be nice to have a larger sensor in the G17 or even S130 to better go up against the RX100 series.


It outperforms Canon only in certain aspects. Not all. Not generally better cam.
I believe G series must be small and cheaper, so if they make G17, it will propably have smaller sensor than 1".

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:30:18 PM »
I find it helpful to get feedback from reviews for those that review camera regularly and can compare them among others in their class instead of biased comments from those that don't even own the camera.

As I said, I am not looking to get either.

I was merely pointing out that comments like "it has stunning low-light-capabilities" and "The G1X II would be a no brainer had Canon given the G1X II a modern sensor, as it stands the RX100 III still out performs it" are either bullshit, or don't actually stand up to image comparisons.

But why should we let actual images sway us when we have internet printed reviews that support our preconceived ideas? Enjoy your RX100III.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 09:33:53 PM »
Well if your looking to buy a camera to shoot solely at 1600, 3200, or 6400, knock yourself out, but don't think that's the norm. 

Be sure to check out there review on the G1X II.  "With a larger sensor and faster lens than the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II - which is the Mark II's closest competitor - one would expect vastly superior image quality. As it turns out, that's not the case. The G1 X II's sensor has a high 'noise floor', which is to say that there's a lot of noise and not much detail in the shadows. Thus, if you try to brighten dark areas of a photo, you'll end up with more color noise than you will detail. While using either of the DR Correction tools on the camera do work as advertised, the trade-off is a lot more noise. The point here is that while the G1 X II's sensor is much larger than that of the RX100 II, Sony's much more modern sensor performs much better than the Canon's, to the point where it cancels out that disparity."

Noticed they also gave the G1X II only a Silver rating while the RX100 III received a Gold...interesting.




Guess it all depends what you want, as the article in the link mentions, want the best IQ, then it's the RX100 III.

To each their own....


" if .......... you don't mind losing zoom power and shallow depth-of-field,"

Er, what if you do? And what if you don't want or need 20MP from a P&S?
But if you look at their example images in RAW, particularly at higher iso, that isn't what they actually show. You can lead a horse to water.........

Not saying the RX100III isn't an excellent camera, just that comparison images don't actually agree with the comment. But what do I care, I wouldn't buy either.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 08:33:18 PM »
Guess it all depends what you want, as the article in the link mentions, want the best IQ, then it's the RX100 III.

To each their own....


" if .......... you don't mind losing zoom power and shallow depth-of-field,"

Er, what if you do? And what if you don't want or need 20MP from a P&S?

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 05:37:09 PM »
What? If you need 20MP? This is about who has the best sensor, IQ, etc.

BTW, that is a great site you provided.  Read the review on the G1X II and you might better see the difference:

"The G1 X II is a good camera, but not a great one. For those who want a good ILC companion - or a compact camera that's great for portraits, it's a solid choice. That said, if image quality is your priority and you don't mind losing zoom power and shallow depth-of-field, the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II (the closest competitor) is superior in terms of both still and video quality."



Thanks for the link and article:

"The RX100 III's 20MP sensor gives it a clear resolution advantage over its most direct rival: the Canon G1 X Mark II. As the shooting conditions become more challenging, this advantage begins to slip away. As you'd expect, the fine detail that's visible in the low ISO shots, is lost as sensitivity rises. This is equally true for the Canon, with a loss of saturation, as well as detail.




The G1X II would be a no brainer had Canon given the G1X II a modern sensor, as it stands the RX100 III still out performs it.

Here is hoping Canon comes out with an RX100/new LX8 competitor as the days with the 1/1.7" sensor are what they are, but no longer the best you can buy.  Or bring on the G1X III with a new sensor, cut the weight, and address the AF issues.

I'd go for the Sony RX100 Mark III and I will do that myself to compliment my DSLR kit, because it has stunning low-light-capabilities and is pretty much the perfect pocketable compact camera for me (high res, but not too much noise; good AF; good video; good EVF; 24mm at the wide end; very fast lens for a compact camera). If you need the 70-100mm area often, look at the G1X Mark II. If you go for the Sony, be prepared to shoot RAW, as I find the Sony JPEGs to be too aggressively sharpened/noise-reducted. I hope you will make the right decision for you!  :D

I wonder about you guys sometimes, never let actual results get in the way of the hyperbole.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx100-m3/12

Well if you need 20MP from your P&S, and if you think they are worth having, then have at it. But don't say and agree with stuff like "it has stunning low-light-capabilities" and "The G1X II would be a no brainer had Canon given the G1X II a modern sensor, as it stands the RX100 III still out performs it" when all it actually seems to lack in comparative images is resolution, and considering resolution is a conscious design decision, like I say, if you need a 20MP camera why look at 12MP cameras?

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 04:28:10 PM »
Thanks for the link and article:

"The RX100 III's 20MP sensor gives it a clear resolution advantage over its most direct rival: the Canon G1 X Mark II. As the shooting conditions become more challenging, this advantage begins to slip away. As you'd expect, the fine detail that's visible in the low ISO shots, is lost as sensitivity rises. This is equally true for the Canon, with a loss of saturation, as well as detail.




The G1X II would be a no brainer had Canon given the G1X II a modern sensor, as it stands the RX100 III still out performs it.

Here is hoping Canon comes out with an RX100/new LX8 competitor as the days with the 1/1.7" sensor are what they are, but no longer the best you can buy.  Or bring on the G1X III with a new sensor, cut the weight, and address the AF issues.

I'd go for the Sony RX100 Mark III and I will do that myself to compliment my DSLR kit, because it has stunning low-light-capabilities and is pretty much the perfect pocketable compact camera for me (high res, but not too much noise; good AF; good video; good EVF; 24mm at the wide end; very fast lens for a compact camera). If you need the 70-100mm area often, look at the G1X Mark II. If you go for the Sony, be prepared to shoot RAW, as I find the Sony JPEGs to be too aggressively sharpened/noise-reducted. I hope you will make the right decision for you!  :D

I wonder about you guys sometimes, never let actual results get in the way of the hyperbole.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx100-m3/12

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: G1x vs. G16 vs. ??
« on: July 28, 2014, 03:46:44 PM »
The G1X II would be a no brainer had Canon given the G1X II a modern sensor, as it stands the RX100 III still out performs it.

Here is hoping Canon comes out with an RX100/new LX8 competitor as the days with the 1/1.7" sensor are what they are, but no longer the best you can buy.  Or bring on the G1X III with a new sensor, cut the weight, and address the AF issues.

I'd go for the Sony RX100 Mark III and I will do that myself to compliment my DSLR kit, because it has stunning low-light-capabilities and is pretty much the perfect pocketable compact camera for me (high res, but not too much noise; good AF; good video; good EVF; 24mm at the wide end; very fast lens for a compact camera). If you need the 70-100mm area often, look at the G1X Mark II. If you go for the Sony, be prepared to shoot RAW, as I find the Sony JPEGs to be too aggressively sharpened/noise-reducted. I hope you will make the right decision for you!  :D

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 02:41:56 PM »
Yeah but that needs a modern sensor as the RX100 III still outperforms it even with the G1X II having a larger sensor.

Come on Canon!

It would not be a G17, if it had a 1 in sensor.  If you want a large sensor P&S, get a G1X II.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 01:49:41 PM »
Sony is hoping a couple if there cameras will sell???

The RX100 I, II, and III, have cannibalized S120, G17, and G1X II sales.

When is Canon going to produce a competitive model???


 
I can't see Canon coming out with the S130 and G17 and having an outdated 1/1.7" sensor when Sony, Panasonic, etc are pushing forward with bigger sensors.

Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.

Why not? Canon play by their own tune. Sony are churning out different cameras in the hope that a couple actually sell.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 11:00:24 AM »
I can't see Canon coming out with the S130 and G17 and having an outdated 1/1.7" sensor when Sony, Panasonic, etc are pushing forward with bigger sensors.

Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.

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PowerShot Cameras / Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:43:14 AM »
Had heard the G17 will have 1" sensor with 24-200mm lens:

Canon G17 Rumored Specification

24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens
New 1″ Sensor
all magnesium body with comfortable grip
DIGIC 6

Is this legit?

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: S120 Successor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:39:29 AM »
Typically a new S series comes out every September/October.

I don't recall anything being announced to succeed the S120, have any of you heard anything of a looming release?

Thanks in advance

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