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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Firmware?
« on: August 20, 2012, 10:20:50 PM »
And if they did go the app route, the extra sales they'd get I'm sure would way more than make up for any extra reps to help deal with that since they'd make Nikon and the others look old hat and left in the dust.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Firmware?
« on: August 20, 2012, 10:18:04 PM »
There hasn't been any chatter on this lately - it seems to just have died off. I thought there was word of a HUGE firmware upgrade coming to the Mark III in July?

Has there been any other official / non official talk of when it's coming / what it may contain?


It sure would be nice if it contained focus peaking/100% zoom overlay box to help with video focusing, zebras for exposure blow out and 1920x1080 1.6x crop perfect video zoom mode and a higher power, if no longer perfect, video zoom mode.  Oh and removed the absurd restrictions on AutoISO, Canon has had more than a decade and still hasn't finished dribbling out a fully usable version below 1 series when every other company has had it on their cheapest of cheap already for years but heavens if Canon ever tried to deliver a camera that did all that it could.

Anyway I'm starting to lose faith that there will be one. :(
Very bad. Very bad.


These guys crack me up but they also have tests and proof as well as real experience with both. While they inform, they add a little "color" to explain. :D

Ever since Canon had their team of brain washers and re-programmers get to him he rarely says anything on point (well he did have a few points regarding the D4, such as terrible video and such, but he is just making an absolute laughing stock fool of himself with his rants against the D800 sensor and DxO, he is so utterly off-base and clueless I'm not sure where would even know where to begin when it comes to his 'discussion' about sensors).

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Philip Bloom Review Video on 1DX
« on: August 20, 2012, 10:09:12 PM »
Here a interesting video review of the 1DX.

So much for the talk from Canon that the 5D3 would be tops for DSLR video from their line and the magic of 22MP choice.

That said even on the 1DX they still left out the basics of something to help focus while shooting, focus peaking or a moveable 100% overlay box and zebras and, I believe, zoom modes.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Chuck westfall on the sharpness of the 5dm3
« on: August 20, 2012, 09:55:52 PM »
It would be so insanely helpful if they added the basics of focus peaking and/or a little box at 100% view overlayed that you could slide around, even Canon themselves admitted the 5 series needs it when the talked about why the 1C supposedly doesn't need that.  Zebras for exposure would also help a ton. As would adding a perfect non-line skipped 1920x1080 1.6x zoom mode and a more extreme zoom mode. Really say they played silly reindeer games and left such basics out.

yeah it's noisy, 5D2 was noisy, 7D was noisy, all very noisy even for consumer goods so the solution has long been to either use 100% external recording or to use a pre-amp, i'm using a JuicedLink DT414 and trying to dial down the internal gain as much as possible.

Lenses / Re: 100mm F2.8 macro vs 100mm F.28L IS macro
« on: August 19, 2012, 03:31:48 AM »
One additional thing to keep in mind is that with the new 5D3/1DX AF systems the 100 USM is a much lower class AF than the 100L so it doesn't have usage of as many cross type points, all the outer cross points turn into single direction with the non-L.

I'm intrigued though why the 100mm macro USM is the only f/2,8 lens in group E, when even the older non-USM macro is in group C. I notice it's even worse with the 180mm macro, as it is in group G with or without the 1.4x extender.

Yeah it is odd. Glad I upgraded to L. :D

Maybe it is to sell more L versions.  ;D ;D

If not then maybe something about the internal baffles and how it heads into macro mode as a non-extending lens, maybe the larger elements in the L get around this. The older non-USM uses an extended barrel type macro design. It is interesting that even the 100L is one of the few lenses faster than f/4 that does not get the central point to work as a super precision double cross point. Gotta be something to do with the way macro lenses are designed. Once you are at 1:1 I think they act more like f/5.6 in how much light they let in even when set to f/2.8 too, not sure where they decided to class the AF rating for it, at normal distance or macro.

Lenses / Re: 100mm F2.8 macro vs 100mm F.28L IS macro
« on: August 19, 2012, 03:23:51 AM »
L has a tiny bit better micro-contrast and pop

maybe the IS could help for what you are doing?

the L is a little faster at the same aperture so it lets in a bit more light and has a bit less dof at f/2.8 than the non-L which also might be a bit better for you at times

then again double the price is a lot
and maybe other lenses are even more fitting than either, dunno

Dear all,

Just looking for an opinion. I want to get my first L lens and I'm tossing between Canon 70 - 200 f/4 IS vs. 70 - 200 F2.8 non IS. I'm looking to use it for sports photography, mainly outdoors but sometime indoors. I've heard lost of pros for both but I haven't read a review that has given me an opinion between these two lenses. I'm leaning towards the f/4 IS but would the 2.8 compensate for hot having IS?

Has anyone used or have both? Which would people choose - larger aperture or image stabilization?
Any thoughts?

(Thanks in advance!)

for sports as the primary goal = the 2.8 non-IS all the way, you want the extra stop of speed and less DOF to help isolate background just a little more

for a general walk-around/travel/landscape/etc. lens the f/4 IS all the way (smaller, lighter, has IS, a bit sharper (the 2.8 non-IS is plenty good though))

i had the 2.8 non-IS when I did lots of sports, once I stopped doing indoor sports i switched

what body, what sports, what scenarios though?

Not sure where this should belong but...

Does crop factor have an impact on the maximum magnification (MM) of a subject? I heard before that if you use a 2.0x teleconverter to increase the effective focal length of a lens the minimum focusing distance (MFD) stays the same and you effectively increase the maximum magnification.

So does shooting 1:1 with true macro lenses actually give you more than 1:1 magnification on APS-C crop bodies?

no crop factor does not itself

Although crop sensors are often more dense so it might toss more detail on the bug so you might be able to print a larger print of the bug with the same detail per area of print and you would effectively get more magnification in the end result that counts compared to a FF than happened to have a less dense sensor. But a 5D3 FF would give more than an APS-C 10D would so it's not really about the crop factor at all.

One thing to keep in mind though is DOF and diffraction.

2757 is still slightly illogical that the outer 20 cross points (on other lenses) are selectable when switching to zone AF for group E lenses.

No, the outer cross-type points are not selectable with a group E lens in any mode.  The points are selectable, just not as cross-type points.

I'm not saying they are cross type with a group E lens, that is why I had "on other lenses" in brackets, I'm saying they are selectable with zone AF, but they are not selectable with single point (or any of the point expansion modes). To me, logic dictates they should be selectable in all modes or none. If that was the case, the manual wouldn't be confusing at all (at least not in that section anyway).

I agree, Manuals Suck!

Lets go out and shoot, I've actually spent more time with the manual than shooting this bad-boy!  >:(

I'm in agreement there. I'm actually going on a themed portrait shoot tomorrow at a heritage railway, out of my comfort zone, which was why I was playing around in the first place :P. Had it not been for the preparation, I proably would never have found out.

See pages 98-99, you probably have it locked to not let you chose non-cross type points for single point mode, so it locks with the E lens out of the outer points but that setting has no bearing on auto and zone modes and stuff. Everything is working as it should. If it let you select every point for every lens even when set to only let you chose cross-type then the latter function would be nonsensical.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5DMkIII for sports
« on: August 16, 2012, 12:56:06 AM »
Did anyone try it using AI-Servo and perhaps burst mode? Is it even possible to do with relative success?
Becuase we've been hearing a lot how 1DX is good in this regard, but for a variety of reasons 5d3 is a much more used camera, that's why I'm asking.
I currently have 70-300L so I'm planning to shoot with this, just want to hear your opinion on the subject matter.

Of course, it has better AF than anything Canon released before.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 for sports/action?
« on: August 14, 2012, 04:24:36 PM »
@pwp: Thanks for the pre-owned 1D4 idea. I hadn't considered it seriously before you mentioned it.

After thinking it over since yesterday, I'm coming to the conclusion that the 5D3 will probably be my best choice at the moment. During the last 3 years, about half of my shots have been of motorcycle riding at trackdays.
But for the next two years, I'm in mainland China for the company so I will have few opportunities to do this. More likely the majority of my shots will be of the landscape, buildings, fauna, etc. For the situations where I will shoot sports, the 5D3 AF system will most likely do very fine.
Surely Bosman, Wilmark and others' comments attest that the 5D3 AF is no turd when it comes to sports - it will be legions better than my 50D.

A second reason not pursuing a pre-owned 1D4, is that I would have a much harder time finding one here in CN than a new 5D3.

In two years time, I might be able to pick up a used 1DX for action if I still have the need want and the 5D3 cannot deliver. We'll see :)

Thanks for all the comments, I really appreciate it.

Yeah if you are also going to be doing tons of other stuff an dnot just 100% sports with it then the 5D3 all the way, APS-H is a bit awkward match to many landscape lenses (although you can certainly get around that) and it's a bulky pain of a brick to lug around to everything, the 5D3 has better movies and UI and such.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 for sports/action?
« on: August 14, 2012, 04:20:47 PM »
For action shooting look to a pre-owned 1 Series. I have a 5D3 and when I first got it, out of curiosity I ran it as a second body at a track & field athletics job. It's IQ and AF were 100% up to the job but the slow frame rate and small buffer reveal the 5D3's strengths & weaknesses. In short, it's not an action shooting camera.

The fps are a bit weak for really serious level action shooting but it is just enough you can get by with it now.
The buffer isn't bad at all if you feed it the proper card. Give it a Lexar 1000x 32GB card and you opinion of the buffer may change considerably (the Lexar 1000x 32GB gives it a MUCH larger buffer than even say a Sandisk 32GB 90MB/S ExtremePro card does, much larger).

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