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From my experience, Even with ISO 100, on most cameras, it's possible to recreate banding... I shoot product photography and metalized materials on a reflective surface gives me strong banding at ISO 100.  Other materials aren't noticeable and looks flawless...  what surface is the banding occurring on?  a highly reflective surface?  Skin tones should be porous enough to break the banding...  As for the slow FPS, if you have the camera on focus first/speed second it will only fire when it's "sure" it's got focus... Also remember the 7d has a separate processor JUST FOR AF... the 5d3 doesn't.  Its processor is faster than the digic 4's, supposedly, but it isn't a miracle worker, and is suspect in less challenging situations, it should be able to get 6FPS if set to do so.  The AF point illumination is a problem but is easily fixable via firmware.

For $3500, with AF being the main upgrade, it sure as heck should track in AI Servo at 6fps, I sure hope the 7D doesn't leave it in the dust.

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Is everyone that has 5D Mark III's on backorder...starting to get them yet?

Kinda wondering if I order one in next couple of days...about how long till I'd get it....

I read they're shipping I think a week ago...so, wondering if people are starting to get them now...

Thanx,

cayenne

Yes, 4/22 order from J&R came in. And even some people who ordered from them as late as last night had them ship today already.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: A few hours with a 5D3
« on: May 12, 2012, 02:37:27 AM »
OK now this was interesting. Indoors, night, compact fluorescent lighting, took 34 snaps with a 24 1.4L II, all shot wide open at 1.4, aimed at subjects all over the room and 33 were 100% in focus! And the one that was off was not off by much! I've never had a hit rate that high under that scenario before. A wide lens wide open is a tricky test for AF. My 5D2 had been the best Canon I'd tried at that sort of thing before and I think it probably missed 1 in 5 shots.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: A few hours with a 5D3
« on: May 12, 2012, 02:33:12 AM »
Brief one shot mode AF tests:

it seems to do better than the 5D2 and 7D center point

it can still miss, especially with certain subjects that for some reason drive Canon AF crazy, one or two gave it quite a few misses, but even then it missed less than the 5D2 and especially 7D, so it's definitely appears to be improved

so far it seems to always do at least a tiny bit better than the 5D2 and 7D center point for every scenario and sometimes perhaps noticeably so


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: A few hours with a 5D3
« on: May 12, 2012, 02:30:27 AM »
But on to other news. Lots of nice little UI improvements so it's all much nicer to use than the 5D2. So many AF points, so nice.  ;D And you feel like maybe can trust the AF to focus and the nicer speed, better handling, it really does feel so much better to use than the 5D2.

And thanks to J&R deal and CC bonus points and so on, total price should be closer to $3100 than $3500.

If the rumored new firmware adds 1920x1080 1.6x super-sharp crop mode video (and zebras and peaking so no need to bother with ML all the time) and fixes auto-iso limitation then it will be set other than the left in the dust dynamic range. Hopefully 5D4 will fix the DR so I don't get forced into D900 next round. I figured I'd given them one more round to fix DR since they fixed the AF and speed.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / A few hours with a 5D3
« on: May 12, 2012, 02:29:33 AM »
The dynamic range on this unit measures even a little bit worse still. a Full 1/3 stop WORSE than my 5D2. Nikon got 2.4 stops better since the 5D2 and Canon got 0.36 worse.  :o  :'( Nikon has about 5 or 6 recent releases, DX and FF, that just destroy the 5D3 for dynamic range. 5D3 even measured a full 0.4 stops worse dynamic range AND with worse banding than a 1Ds3 someone lent me some files from. The 5D3 actually has just about the worst read noise per photosite of all the Canon models. Worse than 40D,50D,60D,7D,1D4,5D2,1Ds3,etc. I had to go back to a 30D to find worse per photosite read noise. Not sure what they did with it in that regard. If they had it with 1D4 per photosite read noise it might have gained almost a half stop of DR compared to the 5D2 instead of losing 1/3 stop.

At ISO 100: Vertical banding seems to me to be at least as present as in the 5D2 although horizontal banding is 100% gone. 7D has the worst vertical banding by a long shot. 1Ds3 has none, the only Canon camera I've tested that has no vertical banding, it does have some horizontal banding but less overall banding than 5D3. The only Canon to really pass the banding test is the 1Ds3 and the 40D isn't bad at all from what I recall, otherwise they all suffer from banding, the 5D3 may be the best of the rest, although that doesn't really say a ton.

Anyway that stuff was all, to one degree or another, already known.

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I just spoke with August at J&R.  They got 40 in stock with the lens as of 5-10-12.  He is still offering the price @ $4169 as per above (see opening thread)

Yes they got a big batch in today, mine arrives tomorrow. Thanks again for pointing out the deal, it finally got the price (combined with 4% cashback from CC and selling the kit lens) to where I was willing to give the 5D3 a go.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5Dmk3 and 100f2.8L IS noise
« on: May 10, 2012, 10:45:17 PM »
playing with these last night and this lens makes some horrible noises with IS turned on
the 70-200 and 24-105 dont seem to make noises still have to test my 300 f4L
i wonder if its similar to the problem with the other lenses this problem shows up on
anyone else experienced it with the 100L?

Hopefully it's not a 5D3 bug!

I have to say my 100L has at times made some horrendous noises even used with my 5D2 and 7D last summer though, so it might just be the lens, I think it depends upon moving the lens+body in a certain way as it spools down or if you go to retrigger it while it was just starting to spool down or something. The noise is a bit scary sounding.

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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Amazon start shipping the 5DM3?
« on: May 10, 2012, 10:37:51 PM »
J&R just got a batch of kits in today. Arrives tomorrow. Great deal too with the $130 off plus 4% cashback (with the right card). Cancelled my Amazon order (so one of you sticking with them just moved up a spot  :D)

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since it would seem the D800E is benefiting quite a bit from a lack of AA filter
And the thing was announced before the 5dmk3 surely it wouldn't have been hard to
make a canon version where they just didnt install the thing, I think it would be alot more of a hit with still
shooters and video people can still get the normal one.

Anyone know how the DIY AA removals have gone?

22MP is way too low density for that, even the D800 36MP is arguably not high enough density to avoid too many aliasing and moire issues.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Great review for D800 vs. 5D3 and DxO
« on: May 10, 2012, 04:44:48 AM »
I like the author's tone here and his opion of DxO.  This review pretty much sums up a lot of the current debate - http://www.ronmartblog.com/2012/05/comparision-nikon-d800-vs-canon-5d-mark.html

His style is a bit brash, but I agree with him 95% about DxO (I actually have a more negative opinion of them than he does) and about the entire debate.

He doesn't really know what he is doing.

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EOS Bodies / Re: BG-E11 Street Date / Availability?
« on: May 08, 2012, 10:10:12 PM »
I've been shooting with the 5D3 for a while now since the shipment of the first batch and have begun to get used to a non-gripped body... Is this bad?  :o

No, half the point of the 5D3 is that it is ungripped.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 08, 2012, 06:35:05 PM »
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Wouldn't it mess things up if all of the less than zero noise was gone and you wanted to average frame right near black?

I don't see why it would. Temporally variant noise is temporally variant whether or not its negative variation around an arbitrarily set 'black point' is clipped. You'd still get rid of it by image averaging.

Right at zero though say a pixel is, on different frames, value -5,-1,0,1,-2,0,-1,0,-1,-2,-4,1,1,-1,2,0,2,6,-3,3,0 and you avg that you get a different value then if you chop off all the negative results and avg over 0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,2,2,6,3, you end up with a bit higher number and on avg with a million frames it would not avg to 0 but to a bit above I'd think. Whether that really matters a lot I don't know since I haven't done that sort of photography.


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 08, 2012, 01:45:45 AM »
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OTOH I believe it is said to not be good for astro photography since it messes up proper stacking.

Why would shadow crushing mess up proper stacking? It can change the noise profile, but random noise will still be removed by stacking...

I'm wondering if shadow crushing was the reason astrophotographers generally don't go w/ Nikon (aside from the fact that Canon offers cameras w/ better filters for astrophotography)? But if the read noise is extremely low, that may be irrelevant when compared to the noisy Canon images (especially when you consider FPN).

But I don't really know. Would love for an actual astrophotographer to chime in...

Wouldn't it mess things up if all of the less than zero noise was gone and you wanted to average frame right near black?

Anyway I hear that they also automatically apply NR to RAW files for long exposures. Apparently people using them for astro have to play games by switching modes or shutting it off an somehow restarting the same exposure again, perhaps a few different times, to build up a long exposure without getting NR baked into the RAW.

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The company i deal with i believe uses drop ship websites so returns really aren't a option. They're also known to rip people off over the internet, i just want to know i'm getting the actual wholesale price from them.

I don't know. Some places gave $169 off the kit and still made a profit on the kits (5D3+24-105).

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