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This is the best news I've heard from photokina. I am really glad to hear that EOS-M is not dead.
I'd like to see Canon answer the Sony A7s in APS-C format.
Use a DPAF sensor, add a swivel screen, and don't skimp on the video features.

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PowerShot / Re: Official: Canon PowerShot G7 X
« on: September 15, 2014, 02:46:15 PM »
It seems like there isn't going to be an EOS-M III.     :(

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PowerShot / Re: Official: Canon PowerShot G7 X
« on: September 15, 2014, 12:03:20 PM »
I wish they'd use a DPAF sensor in this little cameras. The little cameras frequently have focusing issues, especially for video.
Video performance will be the deciding factor for me on this one. The Sony RX100 mkIII apparently nails video

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PowerShot / Re: Official: Canon PowerShot G7 X
« on: September 15, 2014, 11:59:12 AM »
DP-Review have posted their first impressions: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-powershot-g7-x

The bit about the Canon lens having a wider aperture over most of the range overlap with the RX100-III is interesting.  Since the G7 X likely has the same (Sony) sensor, that's a double win for the Canon - broader range and brighter.
Maybe they are using DO technology to keep the lens size down.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 14, 2014, 11:29:22 PM »
BTW ... the 28-135 f/4 OSS power zoom lens ($2500) is included at $8000 too!

No it isn't...there is a package deal but it costs more than $8K with the lens.

The V-mount battery/output module that offers timecode and RAW output is only about $2K and I think it's a good design to have all that removable so you can get a small C100-size camera on a jib or gimbal. 4K is nice for stabilization and repo as mentioned. Everything RTS with the 28-135 pz and the battery/output module will run something like $12.5K street...but remember, you won't need any rigging or any extras other than battery and memory at that price. People in this forum would also get Speedbooster Ultra's for their EF glass.

And no, most hilariously, Canon are NOT going to be abandoning the Cinema camera space so quickly. The C-series have been incredibly successful. Trust me, think back to the price of the F35 and consider whether Sony really wanted to sell this FS7 at $8K. Canon is forcing them to undercut to this degree because the C-series is so popular. I have never had the least trouble with the C100 and I don't plan on selling it just yet. But I'm also unable to recommend it with the FS7 available at that price.

Y ... the rumor of lens in at 8K is off ... here's a screen cap from B&H . There's no pics at B&H but Mfr # is PXW-FS7, and available Nov 15. I suspect the $9999 includes the lens.
I don't believe for second that Canon is going to stop making Cinema bodies either.

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So, I spoke to B&H.  They had me cut off the UPC of the box for the current lens for the rebate, and send that with the rebate forms and a copy of my receipt.  They're paying for me to ship my lens back and when they receive it they're supposedly going to take a new lens out of the box and swap boxes so that they'll retain a UPC so they can send my lens to Canon as defective, but I'll also have a UPC in time for the rebate.  They claim to have encountered this issue before and that this is how they handle it.

They also claimed that by doing an exchange, I get 30 days as if I'd done a refund and repurchase.

Sounds like your problem is solved!
Enjoy the lens! It is one of Canon's best bang for the buck.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:11:36 PM »
I don't see any reason why Canon wouldn't want to go ahead and announce whatever they've got for Cinema at Photokina, before people receive their FS7's.

Canon definitely are not going to want to 4K enable the existing base of C100/C300s. They are going to want to sell you a new camera. This is OK with me.

Canon aren't going to 4K enable the 5D4 either I think. If you're going to shoot 4K video today, you're going to want the facilities of a purpose-built camera rather than a hybrid hack. And 4K is so unforgiving on talent, hair/makeup/wardrobe, set and lighting that anyone shooting it is going to have enough budget for a FS7-style cam. It will overcomplicate the DSLR to be good at 4K video too I think...you probably don't actually want such a 4K DSLR, you just want an FS7 for $3500 and I don't blame you.

The theory is the FS7 sensor is the same as the FS700 sensor, which loses color rapidly at high ISO. There is only 18dB of gain available over a base ISO of 2000, so that yields ISO 12000 if my math is right. Nowhere near the C100's/A7s's ISO100K or whatever it is. Realtime NR is how they do that btw.

I think Canon has to do something and NAB may be too late. There is only one 4K transition in history and this is it right now. Buying decisions are being made and Sony has a camera that, coupled with adapters like the Speedbooster, checks just about every box. I have enjoyed my C100/Ninja rig since the day it first shipped but I wouldn't buy it now most certainly, even now over $2000/20% discounted from when I got it. It still has a few advantages over the FS7 but certainly not enough to sway purchase. I even think the FS7 shoulder ergonomics are much better, the EVF and handle arm are included for the $8K.

Y... my C100 plans are shelved.
If the FS7 can shoot clean at equivalent ISO6400 then that's good enough for me. If it's clean at 10,000 .. awesome.
BTW ... the 28-135 f/4 OSS power zoom lens ($2500) is included at $8000 too!
It's not a big camera either: about 8" long and 7" high (without the handle) judging from the size relative to the lens

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I'm wondering if B&H would be willing to simplify this by selling it to me for $200 less than they did last month given the price drop that occurred days after I bought it, thereby eliminating the Canon rebate as a source of unease about the situation, and haste in resolving it.

If only things were that simple.

They will most certainly give you a full refund on this one, then you can repurchase at the present price point.
If you buy the second one right away you will have it in a couple of days, then you'll get your full refund in a week or two.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 13, 2014, 10:59:34 PM »
The 5D MK III had so much more detail and much sharper than the 70D.

Should not come as a surprise. Even low quality lenses like the 17-40 shine on the 5D3/6D but appear very bad when mounted on APS-C cameras. It's just a matter of pixel density.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=687&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=687&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0


Woody, I agree with you, I should have known.  Here are the photos I was referring to.


The top photo is focussed in front of the seated people. Look at the grass out front. I'd say it's front focussed by a couple of feet, leaving the subjects a little out of focus in behind

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 13, 2014, 10:16:43 PM »
The 5D MK III had so much more detail and much sharper than the 70D.

Should not come as a surprise. Even low quality lenses like the 17-40 shine on the 5D3/6D but appear very bad when mounted on APS-C cameras. It's just a matter of pixel density.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=687&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=687&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

This could be caused by high ISO or small aperture as well. ISO 3200 is fine on 5DIII, but 70D. And f/11-16 would be fine on 5DIII, but give diffraction blur on the 70D

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There will be differences in the resistance and play between lenses, but the rubber should meet the body, and the photos should be sharp.

Don't spend another minute worrying about this. There's no weather sealing if the rubber doesn't contact the body.
Send it back to B&H. They will pay shipping and give full refund. Their customer service is top notch. They have replaced and/or refunded many things for me without question.

Order another one.

I just hope I can still make use of the $200 Canon Rebate that ended in August if I do an exchange.  I'm supposed to mail it no later than the last day of this month, so I'd need to send mine in and get a new one with a serial number that I can write down and a UPC that I can cut off in time.

I wish I'd asked these questions sooner.  I assumed I was being too nitpicky.

I packed up the lens and will call B&H tomorrow assuming they're open like their website says.

I don't think customer service is open on the weekend. B&H is pretty damn fast, so you're probably ok, but I'd still burn the $200 rather than regret it every time I pick up the lens for the next 10 years.
I went through a similar problem with a camera body (5DIII that had hot pixels at ISO 1600 and up, may have even had hot pixels at ISO800). Ended up paying a little extra and I am very glad I did it because I got a body that works perfectly, and has no hot or dead pixels right through the entire ISO range. Every time I pick up that body, I am happy that I made the right choice, and love using the camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 13, 2014, 09:46:09 PM »
The listed specs show slots for CF and SD cards. Without getting into the technical superiority of CF cards can anyone tell me, based on experience with other dual slot cameras if a CF card is required. If have over 110 gigs of class 10 SD cards but no CF cards.

Thanks


The 5DIII has one CF, one SD card slot like the 7D2.
I think this is a great arrangement. I write RAW to a fast CF card and simultaneous small or med JPG to the SD card, which is an eye-fi card.

This strategy gives me RAW for later, and instant medium jpg which goes wirelessly to my android and to the online storage. The JPGs are immediately available for SM needs, and the RAWs can be processed later.

The wifi can be turned off in camera when you don't want instant processing/review.

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There will be differences in the resistance and play between lenses, but the rubber should meet the body, and the photos should be sharp.

Don't spend another minute worrying about this. There's no weather sealing if the rubber doesn't contact the body.
Send it back to B&H. They will pay shipping and give full refund. Their customer service is top notch. They have replaced and/or refunded many things for me without question.

Order another one.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2014, 08:48:48 PM »
That's his fault for buying such expensive cameras. Renting is way smarter when it comes to high end cinema cams because of how fast technology changes.

Rental is a good option for occasional/rare use. But 10 weeks of rental and you've generally bought the camera, but don't have one.

It's usually cheaper to buy, and sell when you no longer need it. You can easily get 50% out of a good camera after a couple years use. So a C100 would cost about $2500 for two years use. $2500 would only get you 6 weeks of rental, if you rent by the week, so that's only 6 rental events. $2500 only gets you 20 days, if you rent by the day.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 13, 2014, 06:31:13 PM »
This is not a troll attempt, i really would like to hear people's thoughts on the upcoming 7D Mark II when put up against the new Nikon D750.

Technically, the 7DII and the D750 are not supposed to be compared, as one is FF and the one is crop.
The two cameras will be close in price, though. So, they will both be under consideration for enthusiasts looking to step up from their current gear.
And to me at least, the D750 is much more appealing than the 7DII.

When Canon and Nikon announced their entry-level FF cameras, I was underwhelmed.
Despite the 'entry-level' moniker, these are still premium, expensive cameras.
And yet, except for the FF sensors, their specs are somewhat modest (especially the 6D).

The D750 fully addresses my concerns.
With a modern FF sensor and an advanced AF system, it's a camera that can last me for years.
Thus, the higher prices tag becomes justifiable for me.

I can't say the same thing about the 7DII.
I'm still a crop user and I was hoping that the 7DII would have an updated sensor.
From the rumored specs, though, the sensor doesn't promise to be a meaningful improvement.
So, despite the great specs, its appeal as an upgrade option for me is limited.

Not that I'll be switching to Nikon right away.
But it's very nice to know that  there's a very appealing FF camera out there with specs that are tailored to my needs, basically.
And whenever I get the urge to switch to FF, I can do it without a second thought 8).

I agree with you. 7D II really looks more like a specialized solution for focal length limited, good light action shooters (sports, wildlife, birds, etc.). Nikon 750D looks like the most affordable, decently capable, UNIVERSAL digital camera. While in Canon land, the "cheapest" such solution currently is a 5D III. Both 6D and D610 unfortunately are too crippled as serious, longer-term useful, UNIVERSAL cameras - if moving subjects and challenging lighting conditions are also encountered shooting scenarios.

The Canon 5DIII has been the best all-rounder for years already and can be had right now for the price of the Nikon 750D, whenever that comes out.  So Nikon comes out with a 5DIII competitor, 2 1/2 years late. How exciting.

The 5DIII has been pretty good to me. I'll look for an awful lot in a 5D4 or other cam in order to justify replacement, mostly in video improvement, because for stills it's just great. If the 5D4 isn't amazing for video, I'll stick with the 5DIII and add a C100 or C100markII when the time comes.

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