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EOS Bodies / Canon 70D RAW Samples vs Nikon D7100 Compared
« on: August 29, 2013, 09:18:39 PM »
After seeing all the mess in the DXO thread I did a little digging and found a test done by someone who has both on a Chinese forum. If anyone wants to see it, here it is: http://newbbs.fengniao.com/3038020.html

Obviously this is in Chinese so I had to interpret, to my knowledge it has build, ISO performance, AF performance(this is very subjective), and shadow/highlight recovery. I have to say after seeing the shadow and highlight recovery of the 70D, I am somewhat disappointed.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 02:04:31 PM »
5d3 works just fine for sports. I keep a wider lens on it and have no tracking/focus issues at all. 1Dx is nice (I get to use one now and again and plan on buying) but my 7D does just fine for 95% of my shots. The only reason I want a 1Dx is night skiing/snowboarding is a pain with the 7D as is any indoor. I keep a 8-15 f4 fish or 16-35 UWA on my 5dMK3 and on high speed have yet to miss a shot I want. Usually have a 70-200 2.8 on my 7d or longer depending on my location.

The most important thing.. rather then body or lens .. is knowing your sport inside and out. Where your subject will be at what time and the best location to get the shot. Knowing what base the play will be in baseball, seeing any advantage during a power play, sitting under the net on one end of a basketball court and using a UWA or Fish to capture that game changing dunk or that one point in the course that everyone has had trouble with but you know one skier is going to nail the turn and give you "that shot".

Note on the 7D... I have the 7D and I've heard some people say it's AF is better than even the 1DMK3, that is simply not true. I tried basically every AF combination on it and it just does not give as much keepers as 1DMK3. So if I were to go down the 1 and 5series to a 7, the MKII better be damn good in its AF area. Also the high ISO is just a pain to deal with. I know that knowing the sport I am shooting does benefit me;however, I do like AI servo and track players rather than focus trap at a given point.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 01:56:30 PM »
Another factor not yet mentioned-any need to shoot video?  I use all three bodies, 1D-X, 1DIV and 5d3 with the 5d3 being used for video (less aliasing, easier controls).
As for strict comparison, there are actually pro/con for each, but overall user friendly of 1D body is hard to beat. Post -production wise, in my hands, MP/color rendering/DOF of FF 5d is slightly better, but reach/FPS trump those minimal advantages.
When on assignment alone with choice of bodies, I obviously take 1D-X and then the 1DIV....

NO I do not do any video, if at all it will probably just be recording names of performers if I go to shoot performances

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 01:54:21 PM »
The main question that i have to ask u is since u shoot sports, why did u sell the 1D IV? I recently traded in my 7D for an excellent 1D IV & i havent looked back since! Canon's 1D series go hand in hand w shooting sports. In fact al the pro shooters like SI photographers were using this camera until the 1DX recently released pushing their ISO way up there. I heard that the 1D III had poor auto focusing which is where the IV shines, as well as high ISO capabilities. Of course the 1DX is the way to go IF u can afford it.....i know i can't. Plus the 1DX is FF so im also tapped out financially when it comes to anything larger than my 70-200 2.8 II. So i still enjoy the crop factor which is 1.3 compared to 1.6 from my old 7D. So im losing a bit of reach but ill take it w the IV's benefits. Either rob a bank & grab the 1DX or get ur old 1D IV back!!!

I had the 1DIV in 2010 but I switched to landscape so it was sold to fund my 1DsMK3, but I am coming back to sports and there are two new cameras out there that I have not yet used. 5D3 and 1Dx. I tried the 1Dx and it was fantastic, but the price of it is keeping me away now. Because I want to upgrade my lenses as well.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 04:56:13 AM »
You really need to think about your need for high ISO vs your need for FPS.

I have a friend who has the 1DX and 5D Mark III and he won't touch sports with the 5D Mark III.

You may want to consider saving a bit and getting the 1D X or waiting to see if announcement about the 7D Mark II comes out.

The 1D Mark IV does have a lot of benefits over the 5D Mark III.

How important is weather sealing and FPS to you?

Weather seal not too much, as I rarely shoot football and soccer, which are outdoor sports. FPS as I have mentioned is nice to have. AF is the most important thing as I find the 1DMK4 overpowers the 1D/sMK3 but I have not yet tried the 5D3 so it's blank there. The 1Dx is the way to go but I am really in need to replace the 1DsMK3 as the buffer is horrible, it runs out after like 10 shoots causing me to sometimes miss the moment, and I use an Extreme 90MB/s card on that.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 04:52:10 AM »
Well with 70200 on the 1DMK3 it is fairly hard to get to the goalkeeper on the opposite team and it is equivalent to 260mm. If I use the new 120-300 on the 5DMK3 I would expect to have  the same problem(but since it has twice the MP on the 1DMK3 I think cropping could come into play). FPS is another concern I should have mentioned because the 5 FPS on the 1DsMK3 is not great, and I often find the need to have a higher FPS. I can sometimes manage it, but I find an increase of FPS a big +

EOS Bodies / 5D III or 1D IV for sports!
« on: January 31, 2013, 04:14:23 AM »
First of all, THE important thing is this is mainly for sports (hockey-often, basketball and volley ball- sometimes, football and soccer-rarely) Will use 2470, 70200 and new Sigma 120-300 when it comes out. Currently I use the 1Dmk3 and 1Dsmk3 with the 2470 and 70200 and find the ISO fairly hard to push over 3200, even at 3200 they are not great. Previously I had a 1D4 but it was sold so I'm looking to get the 5D3 (never used it before) or the 1D4 back, advices?

Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Sample Images
« on: November 19, 2012, 08:00:07 PM »
Surely doesn't look that sharp @f/5.6 - which is impressive (in the most negative way).

Looks like they set sharpness at 0 and NR on High even though the model looks to have been shot at low ISO!

The sharpness was set to +2, says in DPP if you download the file. Very impressive...

Don't go overboard analyzing JPEGs posted online.

Start with RAW, and do similar processing so that you know what you get.

One might have sharpening set at "5", one at "0".   Those are just samples that conform to some unknown desire of the shooter to portray what they wanted to portray. A mood, etc.

I am NOT saying Canon will be better, or worse, or anything.  We jsut need a lot more info.


I just checked with my DPP and Capture NX
The 6D's portrait using 135L is at 0 0 0 0 neutral style exposure compensation +0.3EV
And D600 in Capture NX showed that it is at 4 0 0 0 portrait style exposure compensation +0.7EV

That gave some light into the 6D...I guess

Here is a comparison of my 1Ds Mark II and the 6D's other sample pic.
I used standard style which is defaulted at 3 0 0 0, 70-200mm f2.8 IS at f4.5
6D is set at 2 0 0 0 portrait style 40mm f2.8STM at f3.5

I can guarantee you that 70-200mm IS at f4.5 is not sharper than the 40mm f2.8 at 3.5

Here are 100% crops taken with both the Nikon D600 and Canon 6D using 135mm & 85mm portrait lenses @ f3.2

The Canon photo is slightly out of focus.  It's focused on the hair over her forehead, the right eye is just out of focus, and the left eye is worse.  Sharpening is not going to help.

Newsflash!!! EF135mm F/2 front focuses on Canon 6D.

Then I have to say that Canon fails big time. Astonished that their photographer took an OOF shot and even posted on the web. Even more it has been used as one of the most important samples for the newly announced camera, fail fail fail >:(

Using Dpreview's sample to avoid production model differences, here's a comparison.
6D vs D600 vs 1ds Mark III
top left=D600 ISO100 85mm f1.8G @f3.2 (from nikon image)
top right=1Ds Mark III ISO400 85mm f1.8 @f2.8 (from Dpreview)
bottom left=6D ISO200 135mm f2L @f3.2 (from Canon image)
bottom right=1Ds Mark III ISO800 85mm f1.8 @f3.2 (from Dpreview)

In my eyes the D600 crushed the 6D in that sample comparison, and it you look at the sample taken by 40mm f2.8 STM at f3.5, it's still not quite as good as D600. I compared it with my 1Ds Mark III and the 1Ds Mark III dominated 6D as well. Even with 1Ds Mark II, it still has crisper, more details in its shots. What is happening Canon????? The new camera with the newest technology can't even outperform an 8 years old camera? And don't say oh the ISO performance has gone up, yes it has, but like the 5D2, it's almost useless in sports, not too great for performance shots either, so what's with the high ISO??? You can also push 1ds II and 1ds III's ISO and they are only half a stop below the 5D mark II

Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 6D Preorders
« on: September 17, 2012, 01:04:56 PM »
Don't really think any pro would and I'm starting to abandon ship after 15years of Canon :'(

EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D Mk II
« on: September 17, 2012, 05:21:26 AM »
Well it is now confirmed that the 6D has 11 point AF with only one cross type point.

So you'll be using the old focus and recompose technique, no matter which camera you pick.

If I were you, I'd abandon ship and go for the D600. Looks like a much much better camera.
I want to +1 too but very hard for me to switch as I need to sell all these equips

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