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Well said. I agree completely. But you left out the 50 Macro.
I've also left out all zooms permanently glued down at the 50mm FL.
I can't win.
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Well said. I agree completely. But you left out the 50 Macro.
So if I do not think about canon creating a whole range of STM zooms and primes and what that could mean for video shooters, what the market is, but look at the 50 I would like when my 50/1.4 kicks the bucket like my furst copy did...
- build quality (so not nifty fifty, plastic fantastic)
- less vignetting wide open but I will accept some
- 1.4 but 1.8 if it is good wide open
In short: I outgrew the 1.8 will keep the 1.4 until it cracks, not sure what I would replace it with, hope this could be it.
* 2.0/50 IS USM remember that no 'non-L IS refresh' lens was released at a slower max aperture than the lens it was replacing.Well...
2.8/24mm replaced with the 2.8/24mm IS USM
2.8/28mm replaced with the 2.8/28mm IS USM
2.0/35mm replaced with the 2.0/35mm IS USM
Don't see that Canon released lenses with a slower max aperture. In fact, on the contrary, they added IS and USM to their old designs.
What if they use that 50 f/1.3 formula that was on this site a couple of weeks ago and make it an L that isn't as expensive as the current one, which would replace BOTH the L and the f/1.4? That would get around the issue of replacing the 1.4 before the L and rendering the latter obsolete. Hopefully it would include IS, as well.
Please Canon, make it something really really sharp with an MSRP under $1400.
Just sharp and accurate, doesn't have to have IS.
Like the EF 16-35/4L IS?
That's a new and very sharp lens that also have IS.... :-)
I am very happy to be rid of the 50 f/1.4.
Based on the awesome optical characteristics of Canon's recent releases, I am confident the new 50 f/1.8 STM will easily outperform the ancient 50 f/1.4.
Unfortunately, Canon's recent releases are either blah optics (ex...24mm, 28mm or 40mm 2. or OVER PRICED excellent optics but slow (11-24mm f4, 16-35 f4).
Why can't Canon innovate and produce quality optics for decent prices (Sigma, Tamron, heck even Rokinon with their manual focus lenses at cheap prices).
Either way, Canon is spitting out products but it seems like it is all lack luster stuff (with exception of the 7DMkII).
The shorty forty is a tough tradeoff. It is exceptionally sharp, exceptionally small, and exceptionally inexpensive.I literally just purchased the Sigma 35mm Art today -_-. Do you guys think the rumored 35mm L II will make me regret my purchase?
No existing lens can compete with the 35A, let alone a rumored one. We'll see where the chips fall if/when the 35L II materializes.
35mm is one of my favorite focal lengths. I'm very seriously considering picking up the 35 Art. I at first thought, just get the new Canon 35 f/2 IS. But then I got to thinking, I already have the 40mm f/2.8 pancake. It's kind of like, if you can only get one, the 35 f/2 IS is a good compromise of aperture, image quality, and size/weight. But, I think I like the route of the shorty forty for when I want small and light, and the 35A for the ultimate pure IQ and fast f/1.4 aperture. Anyone disagree with that thinking?
As for the 50 I agree. It would be tough if the new one is only f/2, kind of a step back. And I agree that I would probably pass on it (despite how bad Canon needs a decent, consumer level 50) if it was that slow. With how good optics/designs are getting, one of last big advantages primes have over zooms is their (more often then not) faster speeds. That is why I have not understood the new 24mm and 28mm, them only being f/2.8.
It seems Logical, that a 50/2.0 IS USM will come. But who will buy a niftyfifty for 500€?
If they are attempting to replace the 50mm f/1.2, why not go all the way and introduce a new f/1.0 or f/0.95 (with optimal sharpness and focusing capabilities, of course)? It's time for Canon to introduce another revolution, not just an evolution. They've certainly proven that they can do this on the wide end (ie 11-24), but it would be great to see this innovation in the form of a new extreme-aperture lens.
The reason the 50mm f/1.2L is f/1.2 is because by making it f/1.2 Canon was able to significantly increase sharpness and focusing capabilities and reduces artifacts over the 50mm f/1.0. 50mm f/1.0 requires a massive amount of glass to move around and there is not much way to get around that as it is physics. There is no free lunch with lenses where you can have the widest aperture, fastest focusing speed, best sharpness, and least artifacts - everything is a tradeoff.
Personally I would like to see an 85mm f/1.4L, basically redo the 85mm f/1.2L II with the improvements they made in the 50mm f/1.2. It would be nice to have an 85L that focuses as fast as the 50L f/1.2.
It would be nice to have primes with medium focal legth, fast autofocus and good IS.
* 2.8/24 IS USM (done)
* 2.8/28 IS USM (done)
* 2.0/35 IS USM (done)
* 2.0/50 IS USM --> a near-certainty to occur (absolutely the most desired lens on this forum by a comfortable margin as no all-around EF 50 prime exists today), but I still think it's "f/nooneknows". We've heard everything from f/1.4 IS to f/1.8 IS to f/2 IS. As this lens is highly likely to be replacing the venerable 50 f/1.4 USM, so an f/1.4 is possible; remember that no 'non-L IS refresh' lens was released at a slower max aperture than the lens it was replacing.
* 2.0/85 IS USM --> a near-certainty to occur as well, but it may be f/1.8 IS as the existing 85 USM is f/1.8.
* 2.8/100 Macro IS USM (done)
* 2.0/135 IS USM --> Unlikely we'll ever see a non-L in this FL again. Canon wants us buying 70-200 zooms or ponying up for a 135 F/2L II (or IS) that will certainly come around before too long.
* 3.5/180 Macro IS USM
* 2.8/200 IS USM --> I thought a straight 200 f/2.8 prime has only been an L lens. This isn't 'non-L IS refresh' material to me.
Canon clearly worked through this, but which of the remaining will be next? The fast primes are made by Zeiss.
As this is not a 50mm IS refresh rumor (which will undoubtedly not be an L lens), if there was a new L lens on offer, I'd guess the one most in need of a refresh would be:
35mm f/1.4L - 17 years old
135mm f/2L - 19 years old
Those aren't the oldest L primes, but they are a strong combination of old and in high demand. My money would be on one of those.
Is the 135mm in need of an update? I haven't heard anything put praise for that lens.