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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 26, 2014, 09:20:52 AM »
  Get your wife on the forum and I assure you she will probably learn a few things. 

No!  Why would you suggest that a new and impressionable photographer come to this forum???  You want her to become jaded and cynical about photography???  ;D

LOL!  Or most definitely she will become jaded and cynical about other photographers!!   :o

(We can behave so bad here sometimes!)    ::)

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 26, 2014, 09:13:17 AM »
Sean, we are really glad you are here and hope you keep us posted and share how this turns out.  Get your wife on the forum and I assure you she will probably learn a few things.  Of course, this forum is also to blame for many badly needed photography purchases as well!   :D

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Aw man, Mt. Spokane!  I don't wanna hear about physics, engineering or science.  I just want rainbow unicorns blowing out the end of the lens!  Changing the zoom/focus rings kills the unicorns!  And I WANT MY RAINBOW UNICORNS!  (Said with the accent of Lt. Aldo Raine from the movie Inglourious Basterds.)

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:50:42 PM »
Seanter

I didn't read everyone's advice.
I didn't need to to throw my vote in.

I would upgrade the body before anymore lenses.
Just the  t5i would be a good leap. The new 7D II would be an ever bigger leap.

Like the jeweler we husbands go visit this time of year, they indirectly ask you to put a value on your love. Maybe it's time she had a 5D III and a nice 24-70mm f/2.8 II. She will be set and so will you (for a while)

takesome1, good point about the jeweler.  If only wives visited the camera store the same way husbands visited the jeweler!    ;D

As for the 7D2 or 5D3... while we all love those cameras, the Rebels and xxD bodies are designed for the entry-mid level consumer shooter.  The (much) higher cost and feature sets of the D series bodies might be wasted if those superior features aren't needed, valued or even understood.

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:42:08 PM »
I 2nd the Wasabi batteries in fact, the latest versions have been bypassing the Canon warning screen with properly reversed engineered circuitry.

Yep.  Just got two more new ones today.  It's really nice to have an extra charger and car cord too.   :)

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I agree on everything above...

-  If you buy from Canon, you'll pay $150 or more on sales tax regardless of a discount, so buy from other sellers.
-  Buying early assures you of paying the highest price the lens will probably ever be in its life.
-  $2200 is a lot for the lens.  Just like it was a lot for the 70-200 v2 and 24-70 v2.  (Now look at them.)
-  The Hood does come with the lens.
-  This lens should be a big winner if it follows the track record of the previous v2 lenses released in the last couple years.

And I assume everyone noticed that the zoom and focus rings are reversed on this lens just like they reversed them on the 70-300L.   :-\   Must be the 'new normal' for Canon now.  Dang!  That drives me nuts.  I love holding the 70-200 with the tripod collar on my palm and using one finger to zoom the 70-200 just like butter.   8)

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:23:21 PM »
The increase in technology with a 70D will be significant.  Everything will improve in a very noticeable way.  AF, Low Light Performance, Feature Set and even something as simple as turn-on time.  This means that the lenses she already has will likely be able to work better and produce better images.  I would probably wait until the 70D has seen some time with all the lenses before another lens purchase is considered.  At that point you'll have a better idea which lenses are winners and which ones might be able to be sold to help fund another lens.

You will probably be able to find some great deals this week on the camera, SD cards, etc.

If you decide to get her a 70D, I would highly suggest at least a couple new SD cards that are larger and faster.  The file sizes produced will be larger and the faster fps will also mean more shots are likely to be taken during a given shoot.  Avoid eBay deals and be careful on Amazon as well.  (I buy most of my cards and stuff on Amazon or NewEgg, just read the reviews.)  UHS-1/600X should be fast enough.  Get at least 32GB and maybe even 64GB if video will be a common use.  There are many good brands but I've had good luck with Transcend, PixelFast, WinTec, etc.  Sandisk and Lexar are the flagship brands and the prices reflect that.  Since I'm an IT guy, I look at this stuff a little differently than most others.  Regardless of brand or seller, I simply test all my cards after I get them to make sure there are no bad sectors.
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/

Extra batteries are also a good idea.  There are two sides to the battery debate on this forum, OEM and Aftermarket.  I'm afraid I fall on the aftermarket side.  I've never had a problem other than Canon's recent firmware follies where the camera can sometimes nag you if you aren't using a genuine Canon OEM battery.  Personally, I've used the Wasabi batteries (link below) and they've worked fine the hundreds of times I've relied on them so far.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049XGNKK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Keep us posted on how things turn out!  It's always fun to get a new camera and even more fun to give one!

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:05:38 PM »
No offense to other posters but if you get a camera, avoid the 60D, get the 70D.  I own the 60D, 70D and 7D2 and the 60D sensor wasn't that great.  (Same sensor as the 7D.)  70D sensor is much better.  In fact, the entire camera works better including the handy touch screen, faster fps, better AF, etc.
   No offense to the above poster.  Using that logic if price isn't a consideration why not get her the 5D3 and a 70-200mm f2.8 L version 2 to go with it. The 5D3 has a better sensor, better AF, higher resolution, less noise and it's full frame.  It is all depending upon how much bang you want for your buck or in this case buck$.  You can get two 60D's for the price of one 70D. Saying the 60D sensor "wasn't that great" is to say anything "better" makes everything else "Not that Great."  Hasselblad has a fix for that comparison for around $25k.  It makes every canon sensor "Not that Great."

Twostones.  Dude.  Chill.  The 70D is $300 more than the 60D and it's the current model.  Black Friday sales will likely produce a better price on both models.  I simply gave my opinion based on my actual use.  It's up to the OP to decide what's best.  I'm not sure why you mention $5000+ (or $25K) worth of extreme out of range stuff on my choice of 3 words to describe a sensor.  My point is simply that if one is going to spend $700, why not spend $300 more and get a more up to date camera that works better?  And BTW, the 70D was also suggested by many others.  No need to freak out, it's not that big of a deal.

70D = $999  http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-Body-Only/dp/B00DMS0GTC
60D = $699  http://tinyurl.com/m8fj9zb

   Chill Rusty.  I'm not freaking out.  The 60d can be had refurbished for $406 from Canon direct.  It is a step up from a rebel. The 70D refurbished is $909 from Canon direct.  I am talking bang for buck here.  The 70D is twice the cost plus $100 more than one 60D with the, as you describe, "wasn't that great" sensor.  I prefer to use my math when making comparisons.  Why spend full retail when you can get the same as new 60D with warranty for much less. I just went further using your logic and your comparison.  You should reread my first sentence that says, "No offense to the above poster." After all what you and I are doing here is making a recommendation to another person.  In addition I would ask her what she would like as a gift.  By letting her choose you can determine her needs and give her time to do research.  We all know making “Her” happy is the goal here.  Now go have a Snickers.  :)

No sweat Twostones.  I understand what you're saying.  I just put the retail prices out for comparison.  I buy refurb stuff all the time.  But when it comes to giving a gift, I figure gifts to wives are usually better new so I linked to new items.  In fact, the prices are irrelevant since upcoming sales will undoubtedly cause those prices to change drastically.

I also agree with other posters that it's also a good idea to do the gift card romantic offer to buy a gift after the fact to be sure the perfect gift is arrived at with input from the wife.

Having owned and used both cameras, if the OP wants a good camera before or after the fact, I think the 70D would be the best camera choice to give as a gift.  I agree that the 60D might be a good deal but I wouldn't give a four year old discontinued camera as a gift to my wife, refurbished or otherwise.  Perhaps as a compromise, with the wife's input, buy the refurbished 70D (like I did for about $815 in August) when it goes on sale at Canon or other authorized refurbished outlets.  I'm sure there will be some great holiday deals in the next couple weeks on both new and refurb 70D cameras.  (I doubt the deals will be as good for the 60D.)

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 02:19:27 PM »
No offense to other posters but if you get a camera, avoid the 60D, get the 70D.  I own the 60D, 70D and 7D2 and the 60D sensor wasn't that great.  (Same sensor as the 7D.)  70D sensor is much better.  In fact, the entire camera works better including the handy touch screen, faster fps, better AF, etc.
   No offense to the above poster.  Using that logic if price isn't a consideration why not get her the 5D3 and a 70-200mm f2.8 L version 2 to go with it. The 5D3 has a better sensor, better AF, higher resolution, less noise and it's full frame.  It is all depending upon how much bang you want for your buck or in this case buck$.  You can get two 60D's for the price of one 70D. Saying the 60D sensor "wasn't that great" is to say anything "better" makes everything else "Not that Great."  Hasselblad has a fix for that comparison for around $25k.  It makes every canon sensor "Not that Great."

Twostones.  Dude.  Chill.  The 70D is $300 more than the 60D and it's the current model.  Black Friday sales will likely produce a better price on both models.  I simply gave my opinion based on my actual use.  It's up to the OP to decide what's best.  I'm not sure why you mention $5000+ (or $25K) worth of extreme out of range stuff on my choice of 3 words to describe a sensor.  My point is simply that if one is going to spend $700, why not spend $300 more and get a more up to date camera that works better?  And BTW, the 70D was also suggested by many others.  No need to freak out, it's not that big of a deal.

70D = $999  http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-Body-Only/dp/B00DMS0GTC
60D = $699  http://tinyurl.com/m8fj9zb


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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 01:23:20 PM »
No offense to other posters but if you get a camera, avoid the 60D, get the 70D.  I own the 60D, 70D and 7D2 and the 60D sensor wasn't that great.  (Same sensor as the 7D.)  70D sensor is much better.  In fact, the entire camera works better including the handy touch screen, faster fps, better AF, etc.

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 12:26:56 PM »
How about a Canon Refurbished 6D.  http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-6d-body-refurbished  $1,367.28.

This would be great if all existing lenses are full frame. I do not know if they are.

Yeah, I thought the same thing...

1.  Get a 6D!
2.  Ooops, the EF-S lenses won't work...
3.  Get a 70D!!
4.  OK, that works.   :D

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Canon General / Re: First time shooting a wedding...
« on: November 25, 2014, 12:21:37 PM »
From the images you have uploaded so far, I'm impressed.  It's not easy pulling off an outdoor backlit scene like that.  And the 2nd shot with the bridesmaid on the left, that gives the whole shot a great dose of color!

From what I can tell, it appears that it was a pretty informal and casual wedding.  That doesn't make it any easier to shoot, maybe even harder, but I think that might help a little with the stress since there isn't as much formal 'hoopla'.

I agree that I would NOT want to make a living doing weddings but the occasional casual wedding is a nice change of pace if everyone is laid back and not divas.   Plus, there's always the free food and drinks once you got 90% of the shots.  :)

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:19:48 AM »
How about just the 70D? She already has all the lenses she practically needs for all 'normal' shoots and then some.

There will be more birthdays and occasions to buy her a lens. You can slowly gauge her actual need for a lens over the few months and buy her that particular lens in future.

Considering the entire thread so far, this is what I agree with most.  Get the 70D and leave the rest for now.  At this point, with the lenses you listed and the age of her current body, she'll love the 70D.  It's a great camera and a great value.

Also, get a couple extra Wasabi batteries and a couple of high quality fast SD cards.  That will complete the package for now.

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Canon General / Re: First time shooting a wedding...
« on: November 25, 2014, 08:15:34 AM »
So yeah, back to Dylan!  Hey man, you're not off the hook!  We want to see how you did!   :D

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Canon General / Re: First time shooting a wedding...
« on: November 24, 2014, 11:25:52 PM »
She found someone... so I'm off the hook.  I was thinking about it as I resigned myself to doing it... and I don't think I could do a $200 job... it just doesn't seem to do justice to the event... so there would be a studio session, a ring macro thing maybe... then 800+ shots @ the event... maybe the time lapse for shits and gigs... then then the post... then giving prints and a release... well... I can't see half assing it... even if it is for a half ass amount of pay.

I'm not sure where you're located but if you're near DFW, Texas... I want to be your friend!!   :)

If I was doing a favor like this for someone... I would shoot a few portraits but in a candid fashion, no fancy lights, etc.  I would shoot the heck out of the event the best I could.  Then I would process the images and upload them to my zenfolio site for the bride and groom to do whatever they like with.  They can order prints from there, etc.  That would be the end of it for me except for tweaking the images a bit extra and maybe giving them a thumb drive with the images.

I'm the worlds' worst about giving someone a ton of work for free because I'm a nice guy.  But at some point I figure that free (what I normally charge) is free and if they want the full meal deal, there's only so much I can offer.  And in your case, for this amount of work and its' true value, $200 is about the same as free.

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